outdated ?? im sorry yes its old but its still best and far more popular
also first guy says it gives companies more space and options for a lot more design changes and yet we keep seeing same phones over and over again
removing it is good on theory but not in practise and they only do it for profit
just to remind you only 5years ago we had phones with jacks,ir ports, hdmi and even projectors now oems just think what to remove not to add and use same old design with few hardware upgrades which are not relevant anymore
DAC in LG v series I prefer said it amplifier because just boasting volume only not make sound even better in my testing.
Removing 3.5 mm is stupid choice for short term, but in long run like 10 or 30 years, it is inevitable and wise choice. We don't have modern digital audio interface. RCA/3.5 mm etc are analog. S/PDIF is old unintelligent interface. HDMI is bulky and primary video. So we need wired, thin, modern, digital, smart audio/control interface between non-video equipments. Audio over USB Type-C suits well for such purpose. Once wired digital earphone/headphone become ubiquitous and cheaper, no one will miss the old 3.5 mm earphone.
The point is that some people spend big money into audio, in-ear monitors alone may cost more than a grand. Those are not likely to dump their gear.
2portsplease, 21 Jan 2018Radio frequencies are harmless, especially in the low amounts emitted from phones?
So jus... moreRadio frequencies are harmless to us because they largely don't interfere with solid matter, nor are they ionizing. There's been libraries worth of research done on radio frequencies. Go read about it.
And you can absolutely see cancer. Not sure what school you went too, but you should look up operated tumours and tumour imaging techniques on Google.
Yordan all the way. He is completely right, some nice Apple scheme to lock you in with accessories ecosystem, same was done with, lightning ports and other BS apple like you to experience and loose your hard earn money for nothing. 3.5mm gives you freedom to listen music with best quality available which is as usual analog WIRED. I have been supporting Samsung almost 5 years and looks like, will be supporting for many more years for making right decisions, keeping 3.5mm where it's suppose to be, in your phone
Apple logic : " Let's take features OFF (SD Card slot, Infra-Red, FM Radio, Removable Battery, 3.5mm jack) > call it innovation (for dummies) > offer mostly nothing in return (extremely restricted os) > make it shiny (again, for dummies) > sell it for a LOT of cash > make them by a TON of accessories and apps for it = It works!
The rest: copy/paste on the Double!
With very few exceptions (Samsung, Sony, LG).
Who's to blame? The very greedy brand or the very dummy buyer?
Tricky question? :D
Big Daddy, 21 Jan 2018What's next?
I guess removing power button and volume buttons.
And yeah let me make a wild ... moreList of removes (after FM Radio, 3.5 of hole..):
Speaker/speakers, slot cards, cams, display, battery, SoC &.. I see one day at time fruit launched an iPhone in best situation with only empty chassis just for $10.000..xD
For me as a paying customer, the solution is easy. I stopped buying from brands who stopped using the ports i most used (the 3.5mm jack and the USB A port in laptop) so my current phone is Htc M8 and i have a macbook pro late 2013. If both go bust tomorrow for some reason, i'm pretty sure my next phone and laptop notebook won't be branded htc nor apple.
No headset jack = No buy.
PLEASE, just stop talking about "digital" and "analog" audio if you know nothing about it. "Dedicated DAC" in the headphones as opposed to the shitty software-dac in the SoC? (hint: there is also a dedicated dac in the SoC, so why would you want to buy another one?).
If the "quality" of the internal DAC is not good enough (which it will be for 99.9% of all people) you still have the option to get an external one even with a headphone jack in place.
Waterproof? Because nobody ever heard of a material that can galvanically connect two points while not allowing water to pass, you know like METAL?
And you know what else gives manufacturers flexibility in laying out the phone internals? Getting rid of the screen for example. And what the hell is wrong with the way phones are laid out now?
STOP parroting these pseudo-technical arguments, it's pathetic.
- A DAC is necessary for music listening, why is it intrinsically better if the DAC is in the headphones instead of the SoC?
- Making a 3.5mm headphone jack waterproof is not rocket surgery.
- You always have the option of connecting bluetooth or USB-headphones even if a headphone jack is present, yet very few people do so, which means arguing for "new technology" in favor over the old shit is just rationalizing to suit your point of view.
But for what it's worth I'd be completely willing to accept changes in connectivity as long as it doesn't mean just plain removing features.
Give me 2 USB-C-ports for example, or a new simple, smaller analog audio interface...
I guess removing power button and volume buttons.
And yeah let me make a wild guess, the crappiest company will bring that in market and then all other companies will follow the trend. And blind followers will be fine with it.
Ahhhh, Apple... Always good at providing expensive solutions for unnecessary problems their engineers created.
For all I care replace it, but with something better.
Do we have something better than 3,5 jack? Something as reliable, as universal?
Nope ... so move on.
When there will be real jack alternative, than we can have this conversation.
Why not remove the screen, thats the problem. they are too big. Why don't they add more physical buttons. We need atleast "Call" and "End Call". Seriously, we do we need 6" screens.
Why not just also remove the back camera, since most people now are self-obsessed. One "selfie " camera so our idiots can glorify themselves all day. See a tragic accident - selfie, attend a funeral -- selfie, own house on fire -- selfie.
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2018Phone makers: get USB type C to 3.5mm adaptor (connector).. What's new in stores!? Notched edi... moreWhat you get: buy an adaptor (black) in pack is second adaptor (white) first (black) FULL-ON notched edition und second adaptor (white) is Psy-Dub notched edition, thanks for you buy..
I'm writing this post as I'm listening to music on my Galaxy S7 through my newly purchased Sennheiser wired earphones.. It's even better than the Samsung supplied earphones. Never really enjoyed music this much before. Listening to Bom Diggy by Zack Knight & Jasmin Walia. What a song! The sound quality is really damn good through the earphones. The sound output through the earphones is perfect to my taste and thanks to the UHQ Upscaler option in the Samsung Music Player app, it feels high resolution. I always download 320kbps mp3s as FLAC audio would eat up my storage. Back to the topic, 3.5mm jack is a standard, you can use the same 3.5mm jack wired earphones on almost any device which uses a 3.5mm jack and the best thing is that you need not to keep bluetooth turned on always or charge your wired earphones to be able to enjoy music. With wireless Bluetooth earphones, you'll need to charge it from time to time apart from many other devices to charge and in order to enjoy music, you'll need to keep Bluetooth turned on which in turn drains the battery, regardless of the low energy consumption both on the earphone and the phone. I don't know if wireless earphones can last longer for say 3 years without the battery dying but I guess, it will most likely be the case. Wireless earphones might seem cool to use because it is wireless and we are moving towards "smart everything" era where every device has some sort of smart voice assistant, AI and IoTs built-in. Manufacturers these days have ran out of innovative ideas, everything these days are influenced by trends. I miss those old days when there was variety of designs and every phone had a distinct personality of its own. It should depend on the user whether to use wired earphones or wireless one. With the removal of 3.5mm jack, there's only three ways, either use Bluetooth earphones or USB Type C earphones or USB Type C to 3.5mm jack adapter to use your wired earphones. USB Type C is rated better than 3.5mm jack for wear & tear, so that's something great. I remember my very first multimedia phone (Samsung C3010) didn't have a 3.5mm jack and I had to use the proprietary USB 2.0 earphones which when got damaged was tough to find. OEMs telling that 3.5mm jack takes up too much space inside and tech journalists endorsing the same are LYING. They should instead make the 3.5mm jack more tough and separate from the motherboard so that if it gets damaged, the entire motherboard won't require to be changed. You can fit a big battery while still retaining the 3.5mm jack. World's slimmest phone isn't the world's most selling phone anyway. I'm not ready to give up my wired earphones yet. I'll ditch the brand who ditches the 3.5mm jack. It's that simple.
Phone makers: get USB type C to 3.5mm adaptor (connector).. What's new in stores!? Notched edition xD