AnonD-16587, 06 Aug 2011WP7 is in my opinion the greatest user experience of them all, with style and seriousness at t... moreI disagree with your statement that WP7 Mango will not make a huge wave amongst the smartphone crowd. Let's looks at the media shall we?
Well, there's not much to look at except good and neutral reviews of iOS and Android. That, and much bashing of Symbian. That's almost all they talk about, and normal people would no doubt will be in a state of null. In the end they needed something new, something fresh. WP7 Mango with that awesome Zune interface combines with the (possibly) former king of smartphones will no doubt create a riot amongst the crowd. Whether it'll be from lovers or haters, it will spark the media's interest and it will definitely not be difficult at all to achieve late but grand entrance.
So yeah, I don't think it'll get a lame response at all.
Rabby, 06 Aug 2011A lot of people are wondering why Nokia didn't choose to go with Android. How can Nokia differ... moreNokia being exclusively able to customize WP7 and others not is very dangerous business strategy for Microsoft, unless they are willing to make WP7 Nokia-only platform in the first phase.
In other words, other manufacturers could be even more discouraged to implement WP7 when they are aware that Nokia has more of privileges and that they're stuck with generic WP7 UI.
However, this exclusiveness to Nokia is a strong argument for Microsoft which would make it more consistent and real counterweight to iOS/iPhone, but also a great risk of pulling both brands in oblivion if it's not succesfull.
I love you Apple, i cant wait for the next iPhone to come out, I love all your products
Sun Down, 05 Aug 2011Have you seen Mango? I think it's actually quite good. Good enough to be the Mac of this decade.WP7 is in my opinion the greatest user experience of them all, with style and seriousness at the same time, and definitely has excellent potential if they overcome their initial restrictivnes (which Mango update will show).
However, I'm concerned about its future as it came as third competitor in already saturated market based on antagonism between iOS and Android which resulted in pretty lame response. WP7 is now without its initial sweep as the newcomer and Nokia is therefore without wings to fly - it will be equally difficult to achieve grandiose success as it is now, no matter all of the privileges it will gain from their new deal.
We will see, but for now I'm very sceptical about that. It's a shame for WP7, because it seems for me that Microsoft for the first time was cool, trendy and ambitious, not relying on their past success, but inovative and advantageous.
Rabby, 06 Aug 2011A lot of people are wondering why Nokia didn't choose to go with Android. How can Nokia differ... moresamsung and sony ericsson made mistakes with symbian touch phones. but they quickly change to android when HTC and moto were ruling at that time. They did well when nokia is dipping. lol i think nokia made bad phones (resistive 5800 when 3g was launched, slow n8 when ip4 had 1GHz etc) I think nokia needs android n9. Nokia can make differences from samsung and moto and LG HTC easily by offering good quality metal android handsets. All android phones inferior in built quality compared to iphone. But since wp7 is not that popular, nokia will die like Ericsson lol
AnonD-16692, 05 Aug 2011Largest smartphonemfg. So why the statement that Android s the most popular OS? If we are comp... morethis number means apple produces more smartphones than any other companies. android may have more share but none of the company like samsung sell more smartphones than apple. This includes different smartphone models of samsung. Apple rules!
Rabby, 06 Aug 2011A lot of people are wondering why Nokia didn't choose to go with Android. How can Nokia differ... moreso how did samsung made different from LG, esp. HTC and motorola and ZTE when they chose android with galaxy s. LOL
Darkangels6sic6, 05 Aug 2011That's just it. It's good...or ok. And you must be on heavy drugs! PERFECT????????????????????... moreYour comments show that you did not read what I typed.
I didn't say Apple was the it the greatest neither did I say they had the highest standard of tech in their phones (an issue that really seems to be a mantra for android owners)
What I did say was they have mind share all the dual loving people don't understand that. Dual core means nothing to the average consumer. It matters to people who are into tech and are allways after the next new thing.
As we await a program that really puts dual core to the test.
Sad to say but all Apple will have to do is make the next phone with a slightly different design and yet again people will que, as I have stressed before mind share.
I don't care if you don't like 20 million handsets for this quarter prove I am right.
A lot of people are wondering why Nokia didn't choose to go with Android. How can Nokia differentiate themselves when Android is a lot more open and free than Windows Phone 7? As usual, the key to this is in the details. If you read the announcements carefully, you'll see that Microsoft offered Nokia something Google most likely didn't. What a surprise. Elop just confirmed Nokia has a special deal with Microsoft. Whereas HTC, Samsung, and so on are not allowed to customise WP7 - Nokia is, further confirming my theory. Windows Phone 7 is a new and young platform, and while reviews have been very positive, we don't know much yet of consumer response. Carriers and device makers seem lukewarm at best - HTC, Samsung, and LG are much more interested in Android than in Windows Phone 7, and I can't really blame them. At the same time, Android is already a major and established player, bigger than iOS and - depending on the figures - bigger than Symbian. And Google got there without Nokia's help. In other words, Google doesn't need Nokia, which means Nokia's negotiation position with Google is not a good one. In such negotiations, Nokia would need Android - but Android wouldn't need Nokia. During the Q&A during Nokia's Capital Market Day, Elop said that Android did not allow them to differentiate enough. This seems weird, since Android is considerably more open and free than Windows Phone 7. However, I think what he meant is that Nokia would not have a say in the actual development direction of Android. And this is where Microsoft comes in. The press release makes it clear that Nokia will get a considerable say in Windows Phone 7's development, and this is the crux of the matter. With Windows Phone 7, Nokia can differentiate from the inside-out, whereas with Android, all they could do was be at the mercy of Google and develop skins. Nokia had a much stronger negotiation position while dealing with Microsoft than while dealing with Google, and as such, Nokia managed to get a lot of influence not just after a new version is released, but also during its development. And this is why Nokia went with Windows Phone 7. And it makes sense, too. No phone maker currently has the kind of influence over Android that Nokia will have over Windows Phone 7. In other words, while Nokia will no longer develop their smartphone operating system in- house, they still have more influence over their OS than Samsung, HTC, and LG do. And that's the key. A lot of people are sad that MeeGo will not be Nokia's main platform. For MeeGo, this is bad news. For Nokia, however, this is great news. MeeGo's development is incredibly slow, and would maybe lead to just 1 (one) (!) device this year. That's not enough. That's too late. If you care about Nokia (as I most certainly do), you can't with a straight face advocate they stick to such a platform. If you care about MeeGo and don't give a rat's bum about Nokia - well, that's a different story. As far Symbian is concerned - it's been a dead end ever since the iPhone was released. We're four years down the line, and Nokia still hasn't managed to create a compelling touch-based interface for this otherwise decent mobile operating system. While I'm all for as much competition as possible, I can also see when a platform has run its course. Symbian is done for, it's dead, and I'm glad it's getting buried. It's a relic. I'm hoping the open source community can keep it alive for us enthusiasts, but for Nokia's future, it's a liability, not a strength. I'm incredibly excited about this deal. I've fallen in love with Windows Phone 7, but at the same time, I was a little scared of its prospects since it didn't really have a truly dedicated phone maker backing it. My HD7 is a great device, but nor HTC, nor Samsung, nor LG really care about WP7 all that much. This deal with Nokia will ensure the survival of the platform, and that makes me happy. It will also ensure Nokia's survival (I'm pretty convinced about that), and in the long run, that's a great thing. They would've drowned in the Android world, they would've sunk into irrelevance waiting for MeeGo, and they would've faced the eternal great hardware/bad software- problems with Symbian.
Ashura, 05 Aug 2011Not everyone is a sheep some people can think for themselvs and the last thing we need is anot... moreumm... just so you know, if society ran the world, there wouldn't be one to live in.... just a thought.
Ashura, 05 Aug 2011Not everyone is a sheep some people can think for themselvs and the last thing we need is anot... moreWhy should they if they don't want to. Its
Not like they are loosing customers in fact they have
Gained more and more over the last few years.
As I Android user I don't have a problem with them
But you clearly do. With all this ranting and raving
Their is room for all, get over it they are doing great.
AnonD-16587, 05 Aug 2011Physical format is one thing, the design/concept is another. iPhone is first phone to utilize ... moreHave you seen Mango? I think it's actually quite good. Good enough to be the Mac of this decade.
AnonD-16587, 05 Aug 2011Poor Nokia. I think the cooperation with Microsoft won't help them. If they were smart, the... moreAnd Nokia as a company will definitely adapt themselves to the changing consumers. All business corporates should know that. Nokia's move towards WP7 and Meego shows that they do realise the younger crowds. With that said, let's just wait until September, and see how things will go for Nokia. I don't think they're ''doomed'' right now, as Symbian Anna and Belle shows a more user-friendly UI.
Largest smartphonemfg. So why the statement that Android s the most popular OS? If we are comparing Android OS To Apple IOS, then doesn't that include all versions of iPod touches, iPod nanos and iPads? What do those numbers how?
Anonym, 05 Aug 2011Yes, Iphones are barely sold. You work in a phone company that also bundles iphones as a contr... morethis is smartphone sale figures. Nokia sold more in poorer countries and mainly they are feature phones. Ask yourself! is my country developed country?
SFAN, 05 Aug 2011How is Apple a smartphone manufacturer if they don't make phones themselves?LOL!!!! everyone who educated enough to know what is outsourcing knows apple is still manufacturer of the iphone. It is made by foxcon, samsung and lg etc but apple did quality control