Mike Greene, 18 Feb 2018Nothing comes close to samsung experience, it's not just about Android, Samsung provides the b... moreLaggy ui means best experience now?
There are too many stuff running background, most can be disabled.
touch wiz is very beautiful. you can apply theme up to pages in settings and other Samsung apps like sms, keyboard, phone, etc.
stock android is boring
Nothing comes close to samsung experience, it's not just about Android, Samsung provides the best smartphone experience whether it be against ios or other Android phones. Software is what makes a smartphone as smartphone. We know how expensive can be pc softwares, Samsung provides a huge package of such very premium softwares in its flagship phones. Pure Android lacks the functionalities and user experience.
Custom ROMs mean you value your time? Talk about a spit-take. I can't even begin to count the hours I've spent over the years trying and flashing different ROMs, kernels, radio firmwares and recoveries, fixing botched flashes (especially this), learning different root methods, backing up to nandroid and to my computer, restoring apps via Titanium Backup, and customizing settings to get things back to the way I like every time I perform a clean flash. I'd have to use a perfectly configured phone 8 solid hours a day for probably a decade before I broke even on time. And that's not even taking into account the generally worse stability and the fact that the camera/radios are usually broken in some way with custom ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE messing around with my phone, but there's a very valid reason for manufacturers' preference towards stability and usability.
Pure Rom wins. Period. Customzed roms are for 1 bit users. I had been using nexus devices for a long time, then bought a xiaomi with miui. Installed my apps, started to use it, when I recognized, that i have more apps for 1 purpose eg more browsers, more sms / messaging apps, 3 play stores etc. Im advanced user, no problem rooting, hacking any os smartphones, rooted my xiao in a few days, and flashed the purest rom ever seen. Even youtube and gmail have to be downloaded from play store... I just can't compare my phone with the older rom. Much faster, more stable and (since the processes are much less) the batterylife doubled. Just installed a nova launcher, which is way ahead of pixel laucher, only those apps i really use and thats it. + 300 mb free ram, faster, better phone. No more factory ui! Id rather root all my phones and tablets and i go customize them.
Anonymous, 18 Feb 2018To be honest, I'd rather GOOGLE allow you to select what apps you want. For example, the only ... moreGood point, custom roms often let you pick set levels of gapps packages to install. You should be allowed the absolute minimum of play store plus a default keyboard and launcher to start with if you have a specific version of calendar, browser etc that you want.
Some of the Samsung apps like Internet and Samsung Music are actually better than the Google ones. Check out their ratings on Play Store. Samsung Internet allows for adblocking while Samsung Music does what it's supposed to do without the bloated functions found in Google Play Music.
YalokIy, 18 Feb 2018How can you call stock ROM custom ? Custom ROM is the one you flash over the stock ROM!First sane argument in the debate
Anonymous, 18 Feb 2018To be honest, I'd rather GOOGLE allow you to select what apps you want. For example, the only ... moreI got the same issue as you. That is why i resorted to rooting and using custom roms like lineage and paranoid
Idk why everyone thinks of samsung or miui when mentioning custom roms. Where do lineage os and all go? They will always be better than stock as they build upon stock to improve and add functionality, while also giving greater control over hardware.
I've rooted and ran custom roms and kernels ever since my 1st android phone the Xperia x10, everyones got their own choice I just don't prefer stock clean android, but saying that it depends on how much you've spent on a device, if I've paid for a flagship say for example a Samsung, why would you want to run clean android on it, isn't it better just to buy a pixel. The other side of that is that many mid and low tier phones would benefit more and is more cost effective. I've currently got an s8+ and have run custom touchwiz roms which are debloated and also more optimized than what Samsung give out of the box, along with a custom kernel allowing underclock and voltage control I get the best out of my phone, there's some seriously good devs out there, discovering xda back when I had a Windows mobile phone was a godsend.
Surficial, 18 Feb 2018Near stock, no bloat for speed and stability. Why don't oems have a selection of extra apps to... moreTo be honest, I'd rather GOOGLE allow you to select what apps you want. For example, the only Google Apps I touch are G-Board (I know it's a keyboard but it's the best in the business), Android Messenger (until I find a better one that potentially integrates with Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp), Chrome (I prefer Firefox but I digress), Photos (unless Custom has a better Gallery/Video player app), YouTube, Docs/Sheets/Slides (it's free and it works), Maps, Translate (surprisingly great app), and Calendar.
I have ZERO use for Play Music, Play Movies & TV, Hangouts, Gmail (I HATE that app; BlueMail and Outlook ftw), and Drive so I'd rather get those apps (with Chrome and Photos if custom has better apps/Firefox) uninstalled. My dream phone is an Android that allows me to uninstall every stock app (except for Play Store obviously) and give me the choice to install them again via Play Store or APK online. Ain't gonna happen but that's just me. That's why I avoid Samsung despite the Galaxy S9+ looking pretty good with its specs.
How can you call stock ROM custom ?
Custom ROM is the one you flash over the stock ROM!
I like custom roms if they are miui or emui, otherwise stock android. Most people knowledge is not up to date as there was time when miui was much more buggy below version 7 but presently it has become almost as stable as stock. Similar for emui. In my mia1 I want to enable touch icon lock functionality which is very convenient but not worked with any of the apps in playstore while it is provided inbuilt in miui. Bloatware is very very less and only for those who want different apps than stock for music, notes etc.
Stock has only advantage of quick and latest updates. Earlier less bugs was also the pro but now irrelevant.
What I dont like about stock :
- App drawer has white background, it looks poor and cheap
- It takes years to absorb features created by OEM.
What I dont like about modified UI:
- When is not just an UI, but based on android like some chinese brands do. Those that look like iOS cheap version.
- Settings too white like Samsung android 7
- Virtual buttons of S8 are ridiculous
The-Artist, 18 Feb 2018I've used Android One devices with so called stock or pure Android which lacks so many fundame... moreWell said !!
Stock ROM is boring,. Even custom ROM based on AOSP has additional features.
For me the best compromise is stock ROM but with Superuser Access :)
Near stock, no bloat for speed and stability. Why don't oems have a selection of extra apps to install at the initial set up of a phone?
I've used Android One devices with so called stock or pure Android which lacks so many fundamental features that are present in OEM skins like Samsung Experience UI & Xiaomi's MIUI. Exclusivity can be the chief differentiating factor for a company and also turned into a selling point. This is what sets a company apart and is well understood in the business scenes. For example, reading mode. I've found Samsung's implementation of reading mode much better than third party apps and other OEM's versions. I needed to install a separate app to get reading mode or bluelight filtering option on my stock Android smartphone. There are many basic things which stock Android lacks. I don't like installing third party applications to get basic functionalities like call blocker, reading mode, music player app, photo editor, file manager etc. Stock Android looks cartoonish and the only thing going for it is fluidity. It feels fluid but I can make it even faster. In fact, the first thing I do on any Android smartphone is to turn on developer options to reduce the duration of UI animation transition effects so that the UI works fast. Lagging is a different thing which needs to be explained separately.. Stock Android is bloatware free which is good but many people mistake features as bloatwares which shouldn't happen. There's clear distinction between built-in features in the OS and bloatwares which are third party apps that come pre-installed like Facebook app which comes already installed by the manufacturer or the software provider on many Android phones, even Samsung's Android phones come with Facebook app pre-installed. Multi-Window functionality, for example, wasn't a part of stock Android until Nougat and was present in Samsung's UI since time immemorial. Doze hasn't made much difference in battery life in my opinion. Power Saving mode offered by the likes of Samsung is more superior with customizable interface. You can set different parameters to get more backup in different situations. I'm not saying Stock Android or unaltered software is bad. Some may prefer it, others may not. It's all about user preferences at the end. I'll only prefer stock Android if I have no other options left. I'm not a brand loyalist or an advocate for a particular brand but I like Samsung's Custom UI on top of Android since Grace UX days and Xiaomi's MIUI.. Both are feature rich UI and very much customizable and the best thing is I don't need to install separate apps to get basic functionalities. Cheers.