Pixel 2 battery drain issue being looked into, Google says Comments
- LostInTheReality
- DE1
Anonymous, 24 Feb 2018Another day, another pixel bug. But at least the updates come out fast! They should have already learnt after Nexus cases.
- AnonD-525679
- T1x
AnonD-740159, 25 Feb 2018I'm using google pixel. Recently my phone is getting into silent mode once everyday. Even the ... moreThis sounds like a bug report I've filed some time ago:
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/73803081
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I hope it gets fixed.
- AnonD-503930
- t0L
may be they include spyware in february update..google framework sucks..
- AnonD-625430
- D06
Anonymous, 25 Feb 2018Wait... Do you mean to say you are ok with receiving a security patch 2-3 months after it was ... moreI'm fine with recieving security patches a month or two later than they are released as long as it's stable and don't include bugs. Currently running January Level patch on my S7. Same goes for major updates. I only install a select few apps on my main Android phone which I only use for basic stuff like what you use your iPhone for. I do have 2 secondary Android phones for doing the same meaningless stuff. Don't want to subject my main phone to extensive usage because of non removable battery which if goes through heavy usage, will require replacement within 1.5 years and that would cause me to lose its waterproofing ability. I've had a history of liquid damaging my phones. Businesses are profit oriented and planned obsolescence is the way things work these days. Sometimes a major or minor software update may degrade defining features of a smartphone as it ages and it is most of the time intentional on part of the software provider to make users switch to the manufacturer's new offerings. So before installing a major or minor OTA update, I examine other users' review of the update and check forums to stay informed regarding bugs in the FOTA update in order to safeguard my device from potentially harmful software updates. There has been a lot of articles regarding so many software bugs all over the Internet affecting the Google Pixel 2 line ups, that command premium prices but are bug ridden. Unfortunately I had to drop the Pixel 2 from my shopping list because I just can't tolerate bugs if I pay a premium price. I don't expect it. Pretty fed up of Android and unfortunately my Sailfish OS phone failed on me so I guess, I'm also jumping on the iOS bandwagon pretty soon.
- AnonD-625430
- D06
Nick, 24 Feb 2018It's called a feature. All devices running android have drain because of OS and google service... moreTrue words. I'm also fed up of Android as an OS due to same reasons. Google is always collecting user informations like location data and God knows what. It's the same case with iOS but thankfully Apple's not in the Ads business. Android isn't an optimized OS, in fact it has never been resource efficient. If not for the OEMs who were instrumental in developing and nurturing Android as a smartphone OS, Google would be doing something else with Android. Android OS wasn't even Google's own idea. They bought it from Andy Rubin, the father of Android and were quick to see its potential. All Google did was to integrate all their services into a single place (Android OS), required to create and sustain an ecosystem, then got all manufacturers on board to use it as their primary OS with customizability being offered to manufacturers and carriers so they could create their own skins to differentiate their products and services. After all, exclusivity factor has been shown to benefit brands. This has not only caused fragmentation, but security vulnerabilities as well. Android is more prone to malware, virus, data theft attacks etc because it's running on a large percent of phones in the world. I'm afraid Android has reached a stage where it's just too difficult, next to impossible for it to be beaten by another OS in the near future. It has become too large by now that it will swallow any upcoming new OS if pitched as a rival. As of now, the only viable alternative is iOS or if you don't mind using outdated OS for which supports have been ceased. Apple survives due to many factors. Apple Products are niche market and are considered more of a status symbol than smartphones, Apple have huge profit margins on their iPhones and other products, rich ecosystem of apps, loyal and paid users locked into their ecosystem, frequent & long term software updates. iOS was unveiled before Android and it was iOS which forced Google to completely rebuild Android. iOS had a proper ecosystem of apps before Android and although Android caught up over the years, there's still too many junk apps on the Play Store. No matter how periodically Google cleans the mess, it seems inherited. Google Services and Android OS itself, are the enemies of battery life. As you rightly said, there hasn't been significant difference in battery life over several years, despite SoCs beings manufactured on power efficient 10nm process. 7nm process too won't help the battery life if the inherited issue can't be solved which is beyond a fix now. Doze, like previous battery savers introduced with different Android versions, are all just marketing terms. These battery savers restricts some background services like data transmission for certain apps in the background, limited background processes, reduced brightness etc to save battery life and unfortunately they don't offer any significant increase in backup. I've found Samsung's Battery Saver modes to be much better, because you can set different parameters to customize your preferences and they do work, especially the Ultra Power Saving Mode which applies a black theme with only basic functions accessible.. The most battery consuming part of a phone is its screen. Don't want to touch the subject of LCD vs AMOLED screens. Both technologies have their pros and cons. My favourite display technology is AMOLED unless microLED becomes the next big thing because they are battery friendly depending on the content being shown. AMOLED screens don't need to lit the pixels to display deep blacks hence they are battery friendly when displaying blacks. If there's a system wide black theme applied, I'm pretty certain we can get significantly more battery backup but they aren't put to good use because Android can't apply a theme as system wide, meaning the theme will have to work on all apps where colours aren't required. Since most apps and sites have whitish backgrounds, almost all AMOLED pixels need to be lit, and it's not gonna help battery life. I remember my Nokia N8 which had an AMOLED display, running Symbian Belle had a dark theme pre-installed which was 60-70% system wide and I noticed significantly better battery life when it was applied compared to white or colourful themes. Right now, there's only a few ways to increase battery life; power efficient SoC built on 10nm or 14nm process, OS optimization, increased battery capacity, AMOLED screens with a dark UI which works system wide and with most basic apps.. In fact, apps should have an inbuilt night mode with a dark background, would prove beneficial to battery life on phones packing AMOLED screens. The Android & iOS monopoly seriously needs to be broken, but I wonder if any company can afford to take the risk.. Samsung maybe? Tizen OS is already out, albeit it runs on a few budget phones of Samsung Z series. It seems like Samsung's backup plan in case Google decides to screw them. Microsoft rumours about the surface phone are indicative of Microsoft's revival plans for smartphone business.. Jolla tried with their Sailfish OS and I really loved the user interface and UI interactions using gestures on my Jolla C phone. It felt fresh to use until the hardware gave up on me. Unfortunately they couldn't get much traction but I hope it will be the next big thing someday. There's definitely market for another OS, but competing with Android & iOS is going to be a tough job without a proper ecosystem.
- Anonymous
- mXJ
AnonD-625430, 25 Feb 2018Stock Android is a bug fiesta. I'm happy with slow but stable updates from Samsung. How I wish... moreWait... Do you mean to say you are ok with receiving a security patch 2-3 months after it was released on stock Android?
That's a big no-no if you care about your data and you actually use your phone for more than making calls.
I would never use one of my main email accounts, main cloud storage, amazon, ebay, real social media accounts on a phone that doesn't have the latest security patch.
Also, no online purchases, no internet banking apps, no appstore purchases with my credit card numbers.
I got an iPhone for all of that. And an Android phone to mess around, doing meaningless stuff on it.
- AnonD-625430
- D06
Stock Android is a bug fiesta. I'm happy with slow but stable updates from Samsung. How I wish the Pixel 2 line up didn't exist.. Oh wait.. Another day, another software bug for the unfortunate owners of the Pixel 2 lineups.
- AnonD-740159
- 7k9
I'm using google pixel. Recently my phone is getting into silent mode once everyday. Even the message section goes blank. I have to restart again to get the phone in order. Can you please look into this. I never expected google phones will work like this.
- Anonymous
- pp}
Android Oreo and doze feature sucks big time on all phones not just Pixel 2 and next android 9 will be even worse.
- Nick
- nDS
It's called a feature. All devices running android have drain because of OS and google services going wild from time to time. If you want predictability and consistency from your devices you' ve come to the wrong place. Google never offered it. Don't blame the oem's, the apps or the government. Google never had this area under control. If you like their OS it's a tradeoff you will need to accept. It won't improve with an update or a new iteration. Since doze is out overnight has been adressed and most of the devices will drain only 2-4% over night. The trouble is when the clock hits 8 am and the google services start rolling. Then you get drain, the kind of drain which brings any flagship devices carring 3500-4000 mah batteries on their knees. Mind you, those flagships went from 24-2600 mah 4 years ago up to today's standards, meanwhile chipset efficiency increased as we went down to 10nm fabrication process. You used to get about a day of usage on a single charge five years ago with an android and we're still around that figure today. Samsung promises a day and a half on their new s9 line-up. Meanwhile i still get around a day on my s8+. I rocked devices from htc, google (htc) and lg in the past. In the end, they have a common weakness, the inefficient operating system. Yes, it allows for great customization, but for me the tradeoff in efficiency and consistency is no longer a go to solution. I'm really tired getting over the same issue over and over again: app drains, radio drains, wifi drains, google services drains. As it lines-up my next device will have a fruit logo on it's back, and God knows I stayed away from their devices cause I deeply dislike a lot of their policies, but in the end I am sick and tired of Googles failures and I will move on. Now I see the need to have more than two mobile OS's out there
- AnonD-740027
- keL
The biggest battery drain for me is the location services. Ever since the February update I've noticed the little location icon is constantly on, only way to solve the issue is to put the location to battery savings.
- Sidnei
- IDi
I have the same problem with battery after update... Battery life found so fast...
- AnonD-740014
- QZ1
I traced the issue to Android Messenger. Simply use Messenger as SMS and now all is well
- Hel 662
- N4Q
The pixel2 manufacturing by htc ,htc lose in smartphone because hardware issue and poor battery life 200 cycle charging
- AnonD-166545
- T73
Not just the Pixel 2, but the OG Pixels as well. In fact, battery has been an issue for a while now.
- Sunil
- KxF
Not only Google pixel 2 overheating but my device too after Nexus 6p after Feb update started misbehaving and over. Heating , battery draining etc . Finding no help from any where I switched over to Android version 7.0 ie old version . So ok with it .
But Google must fix it fast , as new vesrion which is expected to be smarter than old version is defeating it's purpose and Google's claim
- nickname
- 7kd
Anonymous, 24 Feb 2018Another day, another pixel bug. But at least the updates come out fast! not really
they just attend to issues which have a major outcry and that it isnt quick enough
i have a pixel 2 with my own issues which are phone specific and the support isnt that great
and many users have an issue with screen colour but nothing is being when many people have posted on the forum about it
they need to give solutions for all users i feel.. as in options in the case of display colour ranging from srgb settings for some users who need true to life colours to over saturated colour needs of others.. not just cater to one section and not pay heed to others..
in the case of battery way too many people complained thats why they did not have a choice and not discriminate..
- Smartphon
- aXP
Google might have injected a crypto currency mining malware 😜
- Anonymous
- JFL
Another day, another pixel bug. But at least the updates come out fast!
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