AndyWalsall GB, 19 Apr 2018Also, the March 2018 Security Update is already on Android 8.0.
I'm wondering why the delay... moreow UK has told me there not delaying the Android 8.1 update on Nokia 5.
I'm starting to see odd comments of problems with 8.1 with Nokia 5.
Anyone know if Nokia 8 is suffering with 8.1?
The 8.1 update in Germany left my Nokia 5 almost useless. The home and overview buttons do not work and the screen do not show any notifications. Really disappointing.
AndyWalsall GB, 09 Apr 2018There is still no sign of a download of Android 8.1 in the UK for the Nokia 5.Also, the March 2018 Security Update is already on Android 8.0.
I'm wondering why the delay in 8.1 being issued in the UK.
Is there any bugs or is o2 delaying the download?
JahRasta, 08 Apr 2018Do not, I repeat, do NOT BUY THIS PHONE. The only thing good about this phone is it's built qu... moreYou are right, Nokia is not back. Because Nokia isn't back till they have their own OS.
Android lags like hell on any budget phone. Thats just its nature. Stock or not makes very little difference.
But the world has gotten used to buggy, laggy android, and the OS itself has improved a lot over the years. Its not very good, but its usable, and its what the people want.
As for HMD, they have no option but to use Android, and stock android is cheap because they need to spend minimum on software and have advantages in marketing by calling it 'pure' and 'secure' instead of 'plain' and 'featureless'. And it seems this is working. I know a few people who bought Nokia 5 and they are very happy with its speed and performance. Perhaps you got a bad unit?
There is still no sign of a download of Android 8.1 in the UK for the Nokia 5.
Do not, I repeat, do NOT BUY THIS PHONE. The only thing good about this phone is it's built quality, other than that it's a sad excuse for a phone.
It's lagging, closing background apps, not working as it should, hangs, slow downs, constant problems since day one.
Had to factory reset once I got 8.0 to make it work normal, and it worked great, for about a day. After that it went back to the crappy laggy way of work.
It's not work $50 let alone anything over that.
Nokia is not back, nor are their quality phones. I just don't get how can you have stock android and mess up sooooo much.
Anonymous, 31 Mar 2018People please don't fight. Both Nokia and Sony are amazing. Unlike other brands.True. Both Sony and Nokia made great devices, but so do others like HTC, LG and (gasp) Blackberry!
But thats not the point. The point is, when Google adds garbage to the phones (such as Gmail and Play this and play that), people consider it a good thing.
But when OEMs do, its bloat.
Never mind the fact that some OEMs like Blackberry and Sony add great softwares which counter the crap put by google and even make browsing the phone better and faster.
If you don't have access to a blackberry priv, check the UI on GsmArenas review. And compare the multi tasking menu with so called pure google crap android.
Its clear the pure android is inferior to blackberrys android.
Now trolls on the internet will say that blackberry doesnt sell. But thats not the point.
'Bloat' by Sony and Blackberry is better than the crappy Google apps infested 'pure' android.
Carol, 02 Apr 2018Boy, you ain't listening. I am not an android fan, i actually, till 4 mounths ago, never used ... moreAgain more off topic garbage from you about symbian and stuff. Don't run away from the topic.
Here's the thing now: Google apps are bloatware, if they are NOT, then neither is anything put on top by Xiomai, Samsung and others.
Its not that I like the garbage put on by Samsung. I hate it. But its a matter of principle, a matter of being fair and not a blind sheep follower.
When Samsung and LG put extra features (like split screen multi tasking) it was bloat, when Google does it, its progress.
This kind of idiotic attitude is prevalent amongst the supposedly smart and tech savvy fans on internet blogs as well as the article writers themselves.
So decide on one and end this. Just dont be a hypocrite.
Gapps are bloatware, 01 Apr 2018And heres lesson number 2: Go to settings, select apps and disable all the garbage that you d... moreBoy, you ain't listening. I am not an android fan, i actually, till 4 mounths ago, never used google, nor their browsers, emails, search engine, and you talk to me about better reading? You have no ideea what a company and OS means. By your logic, messages app, call app, peoples app, they are all blotware. Actually, by your logic, people should receive a phone with one app: settings. But wait, that has some google bloatware in it too, Clock. I am sorry but not everybody wants to play install and search for apps that work, for mounths, you know? There are people that actually work, and use their phone for what was made for, not for playing zumba. Puting selfies on instagram or their life on facebook. Now, before talking again, revise your attitude. You just discovered technoligy and screem like you are the only one. I used symbian in 2001, i can tell by your attitude, back then you were probably at the age of 1 or not born yet. So keep it low, Stop trying to teach people what they know ignoring what they tell you, you might actually learn something.
And heres lesson number 2:
Go to settings, select apps and disable all the garbage that you dont need, whether its by google or the device maker.
Won't save you space, but it will save RAM.
Also disable the play store and download APK Pure app.
This service removes Googles geo restrictions and also includes apps that Google doesn't want you to download.
So stop being a blind google sheep and download the apps that you want to, and not which google wants you to. You payed for this phone, so you should use it as you wish to without any arm twisting by a milti billion usd corporation.
I know its painful at first to use your own brain instead of blindly accepting what garbage is thrown your way, but trust me, it gets easy.
Carol, 01 Apr 2018You talk not to shut up. What i say and what you say have nothing to do with one another. Befo... moreLike I said, you need to learn how to read. I understand English isn't the first language for a lot of us here (its third for me), but at least you can try.
All your garbage points have been replied to already. I never said Sony doesnt put Googles softwares. So learn how to read.
What you call pure android IS NOT pure. It has googles garbage in it.
Amazon is in top 3 tablet sellers despite selling in only a handful of the 190+ countries on the planet. In any case, they can sell one tablet a year, doesn't make a difference. They still make better software. Fire OS is not pure android either, but its more efficient on low end hardware.
So Play Books, movies, Gmail and all other apps are bloatware garbage which most people dont need, or already have them. OEMs put there own mail app (which are often better than Googles) or you can download a third party one (which are mostly better than gmail)
Search can be performed by digital assistant and browser apps.
So yes google apps are
2) take space
3) consume ram
4) have better alternatives available in almost all cases
5) CANT BE UNINSTALLED
So yes they are bloatware. Google can add all it wants, if it cant be uninstalled, its garbage.
Gapps are bloatware, 30 Mar 2018You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I didn't say Sony doesnt have googles g... moreP.s you keep talking about google garbage. 😂 it amazes me. Google makes this system, google develops this system, not xiaomi, not sony not nobody. Of course a pure android will have only google in it. Cause they made it! Now, pure android without the mother company, in it, it ain't pure, now isn't it? And wait what, i just now read, amazon"s smartphones sale? Where? In fairyland?
Anonymous, 31 Mar 2018People please don't fight. Both Nokia and Sony are amazing. Unlike other brands.Do not worry, i do not fight, i teach.:).
Gapps are bloatware, 30 Mar 2018You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I didn't say Sony doesnt have googles g... moreYou talk not to shut up. What i say and what you say have nothing to do with one another. Before showing to everyone the typical fanboy of. ..whatever... be wise and try to read more. Investment does not mean only to fork a system kid. It also means: design, production and at the end, sale. Which in most part, if groogle and their army of tracking is not their, they won't sell. Xiomi and sony did, hmm, excuse me...s'''t! Their systems have google and google again. They have google app and they have google store, they rely on google analystics googles calendar, mail and photos, drive...and so and so and so on. Just cause they do not have "google books" it does not mean, they do not have google kid. And they have more bloatware then Nokias phones this days, no matter what you are trying to write their,. Amazon's os? Never took of. Prooving again, investement not wotthy. You talk to me about duckduckgo? You really funny kid, i like your enthusiasm, but stop believing what you say. It ain't true. Xiaomi? "Brand" which relys on boat labor, others design and marketing campaigns. For the money they ask, they can at least pretend they are a company and fork a launcher for their tracking devices. It is also the only thing they do besides "forking" users data as if google is not enough.
Carol, 29 Mar 2018So, let me guess. Android should be also infested with the OEM blootware, googles's is not eno... morePeople please don't fight. Both Nokia and Sony are amazing. Unlike other brands.
Hope the UK gets the Android 8.1 update soon for Nokia 5.
It's not a bad phone but updates good to fix bugs and improve performance.
Carol, 30 Mar 2018You are funny, i like your naivity. Keep on believing your jokes, they are good. Show me one s... moreAnd as for your comment:
"Nobody, and i mean NOBODY will ever invest into completly separating android from google".
Thats just silly. Like I have already said, Amazon has Fire os which is very successful, especially considering they sell in only a handful on countries.
And Nokia themselves are using another anti google android fork for one of their feature phones.
You don't pay me to school you, so look that up yourself. And if google doesnt give you that info, try Duck Duck Go!
Carol, 30 Mar 2018You are funny, i like your naivity. Keep on believing your jokes, they are good. Show me one s... moreYou need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I didn't say Sony doesnt have googles garbage in it, I said they make it better than the crap which Google gives to Nokia and Motorola.
Nokia XL didnt fail, they were cancelled by Microsoft without being given much time. For the short time that they were sold, they did reasonably well considering the fact that Elop was reluctant as well. He was fully into Windows and never serious about Android.
In any case, Nokia XL was much better than any crap that you were using at that time (in the same price range)
So to conclude: The so called pure Android used by HMD and Moto is just another bloated Android version filled with Googles garbage.Companies like Sony and Xiaomi are doing there bit to improve it, but we need another effort like Nokia XL and Amazons Fire OS isnt enough since they are not global.
Heres an example of a good effort by Xiaomi:
I doubt Nokia will be able to do such a thing 4 years down the line, Moto hasnt been able to.
Gapps are bloatware, 30 Mar 2018Android is open source, the one you think is android is only one version of it. Google 'devel... moreYou are funny, i like your naivity. Keep on believing your jokes, they are good. Show me one sony device that does not have google inside, and i tell you, have nice dreams, your're sleeping. Apparently you have no ideea what "free" means. And what it means to work with an os. Nobody, and i mean NOBODY will ever invest into completly separating android from google. What nokia did with their first android devices was hybrids and never took of, just cause, funny, was not Google