sadh, 30 Mar 2018You didnt get it. Google apps are surely bloatware since some people dont use it. The thing is... moreYour reasoning to justify Gcrap on Andriod is not entirely correct. Nokia X and XL, for example, had no Google crap slowing it down and were way better Android devices than the competition at the time. But it was too late and MS shut the project down after acquiring Nokia phone business.
In any case, it doesnt matter what Android is or what Google does. It doesnt matter what you justify or how you do it. My point is that Google apps are the worst from of bloat on Android before we cant escape if.
In only OEMs took the initiative to make a decent Android version themselves without such crap. But until they do, you can't escape play movies,play books and other such garbage.
I have never seen anyone use these apps, and some are not even aware they exist.
Some even use the same email address on two apps because they don't know that gmail has automatically synchronized.
This ends up using more data than necessary and eats into Ram and storage.
If you want to escape Samsungs crap, buy Nokia, Moto or Nexus/Pixel devices.
But you cant escape Googles crap because OEMs don't want to spend money on developing a lean OS themselves. Nokia tried before but didn't give it much time (or resources) and now HMD is fully in Google crap filled android train.
Sony and Xiaomi are the only ones making any effort to improve Android.
They only hope now for a decent low end device (or a long lasting high end device) is android one.
Carol, 30 Mar 2018Apparently, YOU do not get it. Android is android and made by google. Capici? That means, pure... moreAndroid is open source, the one you think is android is only one version of it.
Google 'develops' its own version of android and adds crapware to it.
Sony makes it better by adding useful features.
I should charge you for so much schooling!
Gapps are bloatware , 29 Mar 2018I am a Nokia fan who moved on to Sony after Elopcalypse. Nokia might be faster than Sony in te... moreYou didnt get it. Google apps are surely bloatware since some people dont use it. The thing is, Android is free, Google developed it with cost. OEMs who want to use Android, they have to pay it by forcing user to use Google service. Google invested in this area. Their true aim is to fill all your needs with Google service. Android is just Google car. And maybe, just maybe, when lots of people already uses google service by their own choice, then Google can distribute Android as pure OS, but with price.
Gapps are bloatware, 30 Mar 2018Apparently you are not smart enough to guess. If its ok for google to put bloatware, its ok f... moreApparently, YOU do not get it. Android is android and made by google. Capici? That means, pure android is the naked one. Your sonny has every "blootware" android has PLUS Sony blootware. You just got smart. Welcome.
Carol, 29 Mar 2018So, let me guess. Android should be also infested with the OEM blootware, googles's is not eno... moreApparently you are not smart enough to guess.
If its ok for google to put bloatware, its ok for the OEM.
Besides, Samsung and Google add bloatware, Sony adds features and tunes android so its faster than so called pure android.
Gapps are bloatware , 29 Mar 2018I am a Nokia fan who moved on to Sony after Elopcalypse. Nokia might be faster than Sony in te... moreSo, let me guess. Android should be also infested with the OEM blootware, googles's is not enough? No, thanks. But thank you for showing you dungpinion.
wooty, 29 Mar 2018Seriously? I mean some Sony fanboys used to say that Sony was the 'king of updates'. Look whos... moreI am a Nokia fan who moved on to Sony after Elopcalypse. Nokia might be faster than Sony in terms of updates, but Sony has better android than Nokia.
Nokia doesnt ad any value to Android and advertises it as pure android even though its filled with Googles bloatware.
At least Sony adds some extra features to android without causing to to lag more than other Android devices.
This whole pure android thing is garbage. Android infested with only google bloatware doesnt work any better than android with the manufacturer's bloatware added on top. It might take time to update, but most people don't really seem to care.
If they did, no one would buy Samsung, Huawei and Oppo
Anonymous, 29 Mar 2018Have the phone been reseted after update? Should be done in every phone after system update! ... moreNope, this is what i said, i do not want to do it, until i am sure is not a problem of tge system itself. Anyway, thanks for answering.
Nokia_fan, 29 Mar 2018Good job from nokia. Beating the flagship phone from lagsung in the update release schemeVery true. Samsung is very laggy.
Seriously? I mean some Sony fanboys used to say that Sony was the 'king of updates'. Look whos talking now! Not to mention that Nokia 5 belongs to the mid range level. So what happened to their X, X Performance and XZ?
Anonymous, 29 Mar 2018Overpriced and underpowered , feel sorry for people that bought them.Jeolous lol. I feel sorry for those who don't brought them. My Nokia 6 is awesome running smooth now no heating
I have a 6, and got the update just a few moments ago. I'm in Venezuela.
Anonymous, 29 Mar 2018Overpriced and underpowered , feel sorry for people that bought them.Oh well at least Nokia midrange phones are having Android 8.1 while many of other branded flagship still having Android 7.0 in 2018! And for me my Nokia 6 work's really fine and so durable. Doesn't get that Spiders web after a drop what you usually get in yours once dropped. And still if you hate Nokia no one is forcing you to buy. People who love the Nokia brand will anyway go for it. Peace!
I updated my Nokia 5 to 8.0 over 4G ...1.7GB...I don't think the 8.1 update is only via Wi-Fi!
Overpriced and underpowered , feel sorry for people that bought them.
Nokia_fan, 29 Mar 2018Good job from nokia. Beating the flagship phone from lagsung in the update release schemeProblem is that both these phones are trash , too slow for anything.
I checked my Nokia 6 in the Philippines, and the update is already available. Yay, Nokia! Currently downloading.
mine just update nokia 5 to android 8.1.0 oreo today. After update installed, go to recovery mode and wipe cache. Now my phone better than before. QUick setting backround changed to black transparent, power menu revamped with black background. Battery consumption now good, decrease heat problem
Carol, 29 Mar 2018Owners if Nokia 5. Please tell how is the phone after oreo update. My girl has one, and does n... moreHave the phone been reseted after update?
Should be done in every phone after system update!
Not resetting causes quite often the synthoms you mentioned.
Oreo 8.1 should not have so Many changes that affect the battery to better or worse in anyway.