AnonD-543767, 06 Apr 2018I remember the pre smartphone era, nokia was iphone now. This company now struggles to stay alive...Weak memory.
Nokia was king of smartphones starting from the communicate in early 2000s and up till N series and E series started in mid 2000s
In fact, even by 2011 Nokia was the king of smartphones with the N9 which Stephen Flop refused to market. Just go to Youtube and check the videos as a refresher. The Galaxy S2 is laughable and the iPhone was lacking so many features, it wasn't even funny.
The WinPho series, while a commercial failure due to its difficult user interface, still allowed Nokia to make decent phones. Nokia Lumia 620, 720, 920 and 1020 were some of the phones in the market but the OS made them unusable because of which they failed.
AnonD-543767, 06 Apr 2018I remember the pre smartphone era, nokia was iphone now. This company now struggles to stay alive...Nokia is doing just fine with their networks business and has done so for the last 10 years. Nokia is not manufacturing these phones, HMD Global is.
I remember the pre smartphone era, nokia was iphone now. This company now struggles to stay alive...
Merwyn Fernandes, 06 Apr 2018All the apps that you are saying are painfull to use I'll just stick by play services as milli... moreDropbox is miles better than gdrive in GitHub integration. WhatsApp is painful to use? Really? I can link my Gmail to Yahoo, use LinkedIn with one drive and one note to remind me of meetings. Million people use Allo and duo while billion use WhatsApp messenger. Besides I have play store on my phone bought from China, can you please contact Google to ask me to delete it? You see Google wants it's services in as many hands as possible, they don't care about device origins, that's why they pay apple billions to make them use Google search
Merwyn Fernandes, 06 Apr 2018All the features they have copied have been recent as iOS and Touchwiz developed Miui began to... morehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._v._Samsung_Electronics_Co.
After this Google took features from them. Do you really think all ideas for ROMs come from thin air? You see there are more feature laden ROMs in XDA than with any other company. TouchWiz copied an open ROM in two swipe sequence for notifications. You do realise that a team of 100 or so professional UI UX designers, no matter how organised they are would never be able to keep pace with thousands of free lancers in XDA, without developers, there won't be Android in first place, it probably would have been a BB clone running on qwerty devices till now...
Anonymous, 06 Apr 2018Haven't seen Google sue entirety of China for not using play services. Let them do it. It'll b... moreAll the apps that you are saying are painfull to use I'll just stick by play services as millions of people do.
You better use alternatives.
Merwyn Fernandes, 06 Apr 2018All the features they have copied have been recent as iOS and Touchwiz developed Miui began to... moreHaven't seen Google sue entirety of China for not using play services. Let them do it. It'll be fun to watch. You listed 4 useful apps. Now instead of Gmail what if I use Yahoo or Outlook, instead of gdrive, I use Dropbox and one drive, instead of that allo and duo I use default messaging app and WhatsApp. I prefer office suite to Google's version. So yes they are bloat. Google knows it that's why they launched Android go, where they reduced required gapps to 8 or something
Merwyn Fernandes, 06 Apr 2018All the features they have copied have been recent as iOS and Touchwiz developed Miui began to... moreif you do'nt like xiaomi and miui , just sell your phone and move on. miui is used by more than 200 million users and they are ok with it. and even if miui clone ios that's okay one do'nt have to pay 1000 dollors to buy a miui device unlike crapple. Most of the miui built in apps are useful and if you think otherwise then its your problem. if you are happy with Nokia and Moto just buy their devices.
there is nothing to be gained by spreading hate about xiaomi as 200 million miui users are not going to sell their devices just because you hate it.
Anonymous, 06 Apr 2018Touchwiz June 2010. Miui august 2010. Didn't know it takes 2 months only to clone 2 OS that we... moreAll the features they have copied have been recent as iOS and Touchwiz developed Miui began to Add them into their own OS.
At first August 2010 Miui was just a blatant 1 to 1 copy of IOS it had nothing.
Miui just kept copying and adding features as time progressed anyways it's a natural progression of a clone os.
Android has also developed over time dude seriously are you sane have you looked at what Andy Rubin had developed and what Android is today.
Regarding bloat I am Ok with google bloat because with most of their apps are useful and people use them in their day to day life .
Most of their apps like YouTube , Maps , Search , Play store , etc etc don't have better alternative .
Btw I can live without Xiaomi Bloat because their apps are all clones of other apps and are useless.
Yes you can introduce Android with your own phone but you can't use play services and if you don't know one will buy your phone because everyone is addicted to play services , The most irritating part will be that you can't even sync your contacts .
And if you do Try to flash Gapps and sell the phone google will first of all not allow the people that have bought your phone to log in as they will be uncertified.
Secondly they will sue you because you don't have a license to use play services.
Anonymous, 06 Apr 2018It DOES have gyro EIS.. Whether it is enabled or not in the test video is based on the reviewe... moreYes but still I believe ois is better than EIS.saw couple of videos captured by Nokia 7 plus with EIS on YouTube unfortunately, videos were not upto the mark
Merwyn Fernandes, 06 Apr 2018And who develops Aosp You or the developer community /Custom ROM community it's google that do... moreTouchwiz June 2010. Miui august 2010. Didn't know it takes 2 months only to clone 2 OS that were based on completely different platforms on an entirely different base... You must be a miracle man for that... Besides Google didn't develop android themselves you see the name android is due to Andy rubin ( guy behind essential) he released also source code for community, Google happens to be making most of that. Anyone can develop on aosp without caring one bit about Google (search secure phone) gapps themselves are a bloat. Most people need 7 , why bundle 13-14 apps on stock android in first place? They can't be uninstalled. I wonder why isn't that classified as bloat? And Google can't sue me if I release a ROM without gapps tomorrow. Android is what it is due to developers, Google knows it very well that's why they demand company to release source in 2 months of device release ( most companies violate it including Nokia) by alienating that community, no manufacturer Can hope to gain market share. Besides need I list feautures touchwiz copied from Miui or other open source roms? Or Google doing the same?
SohailSays, 05 Apr 2018It doesn't even have EIS. Nokia disappointed me.It DOES have gyro EIS.. Whether it is enabled or not in the test video is based on the reviewer's experience.. Probably noob will forgot to turn it on
Anonymous, 05 Apr 2018MIUI has been around for longer than Samsung experience UI. They support devices far longer th... moreYeah I know first they have to copy all the features and get them into beta Rom and then make sure that they are as fluid as they would be in an iPhone or a Samsung phone and and they are released as a stable release.
Tell me one thing which is original in Miui.
They have copied Samsung's edge shortcuts , Basic layout without the app drawer is from iphone , control center is from the iphone , Full Screen display (Gestures to navigate) is a copy from Iphone which in turn is a copy from sailfish os , Split screen is from Samsung , Mi drop is a clone of Air Drop, Even the first ever Touchwiz phones and HTC phone were able to be themed by using mods so Miui copied that also, App Vault is a Copy.
The whole OS itself is a clone.
Anonymous, 05 Apr 2018What you say stock Android, itself is aosp with gbloat. Without aosp, there is no stock Androi... moreAnd who develops Aosp You or the developer community /Custom ROM community it's google that does it.
Anyways I don't think you understand that google spends money on developing Android you think every new version of Android miraculously falls from the sky into the Aosp dump.
There is no brand out there today that supports it's phones for longer than 2 years when it comes to Android version updates.
I know Xiaomi updates their phones for very long but that in case of Miui Updates not in Android version updates most Xiaomi phones don't even get 1 Android Version Bump up let's say they release with Nougat there is hardly any chance that they will get Oreo just the Miui version keeps chaining.
Before Miui there was touchwiz , Samsung experience is just an evolution of Touchwiz.
HMD dosent have the permission to use Preview and other trademarks they are not a part of the deal.
AnonD-214858, 05 Apr 2018pureview took 5 years to develop, even phone like lumia 950 didnt have best camera in one day ... moreYes 5 years developing. First phone with that tehnology was Nokia 808 Pureview from 2012? Later, most of the Lumias Lumias, even midrange Lumias like 830 from 2014..
But my question is. Why HMD does not have that tehnology, today, in mobile phones, why that tehnology is still in Microsoft? Whats a reason?
Yep, 7 Plus will be good smartphone, good processor, good battery in mah, maybe camera also (for the first time in HMD-Nokia phone) :D
Anonymous, 05 Apr 2018I whined coz old Nokia was about being open, premium and top class. being courageous and diffe... moreHMD are in no position to take risks now, they need to play safe, now we have
-best build quality
-OZO Audio (Haac mics from older nokia days
-clear black display like technology
-pixel merging pureview like technology (7 plus and Sirocco)
Even Real Nokia didnt take much risk in Lumia lineup because they wanted marketshare and be profitable first without trying new form factors and other risky features
makenokiagreatagain, 05 Apr 2018Take a look in camera quality of HMD made, Nokia 8, and take a look in old but gold camera qua... morepureview took 5 years to develop, even phone like lumia 950 didnt have best camera in one day it take years of development.
as someone who knew Nokia before let me ask you, did lumia 800 have best camera? did lumia 900 have best camera on market? answer is easly no, third lumia flagship 920 did have one of the best camera, even old Nokia needed time to deliver, why expecting HMD to deliver in just few month?
just look at Nokia 7 plus and you will see how fast HMD is catching up, probably best camera in midrange now. And rumored penta lens shows HMD is still old Nokia they still experiment weird designs, Neither Samsung Nor Apple will experiment in their flagship something like this.
Merwyn Fernandes, 05 Apr 2018Who cares dude seriously peace out without stock Android there is no Samsung experience or Miu... moreWhat you say stock Android, itself is aosp with gbloat. Without aosp, there is no stock Android sir. Miui is based on aosp, not Google's version of Android. Google ads bloat, no one bats an eye, Samsung or Xiaomi does, everyone loses their minds
Merwyn Fernandes, 05 Apr 2018Who cares dude seriously peace out without stock Android there is no Samsung experience or Miu... moreMIUI has been around for longer than Samsung experience UI. They support devices far longer than norm. Mi2 has security update dated November 2017. That's for a 5 year old phone. As long as security and miui updates are there Why worry about OS updates. Don't think a 5 year old stock Android phone (Samsung galaxy Nexus or maybe Nexus 5 AFAIK) has security updates at all. You probably don't know how to switch to miui beta I suppose, coz if you did, you'd realise that most of the features have been in testing far before they are released... And just for your information, Miui on Redmi 5 is on March security update. April coming next week