Anonymous, 01 May 2018No wonder, late development is another feature of high IQ population (their brains develop mor... moreChinese are of varying intelligence. What you speak of is called innovation which the Chinese system lacks and unrelated to intelligence.
Vegetaholic, 04 May 2018Come down. Phones has to share RAM between CPU and GPU. It is not like PC where RAM is for CPU... moreOh. Heheh. Had a little research about it. And it confirms what you just said!
Appearantly the manufacturers do install the full amount of RAM (e.g. 8192MB, 6144, 4096, And so on) but since there's no Dedicated RAM for the GPU, a fraction of the RAM is being taken to be dedicated for the GPU.
Thank you for teaching me! ^_^
Kiyasuriin, 29 Apr 2018I know. The 8GB ram mentioned here was an example. Let's take AG phones They have 1GB of RAM... moreCome down. Phones has to share RAM between CPU and GPU. It is not like PC where RAM is for CPU and dedicated GPU has its own RAM, that's why you see less, cause some dedicated to OS some for GPU
Moj, 30 Apr 2018what brand? are you sure it is 700? given Intel knows his CPUs way better than every one el... moreI have an Intel I7700HQ and my laptop manufacturer says that it supports up two 32gb of ram with 2 16gb sticks, which I have and its all there
Mikey, 01 May 2018The game has changed in two very important ways to curb the memory bumping game.
1: it's n... moreOptimization is faaar pricier than simply adding more ram and battery. Why choose the low road.
There is a reason why a 8gb, 4000 mah phone, lasts more, *is* faster. While a 4gb, 3000 mah "optimized" phone is actually slower and lasts less. Androids have similar levels of optimization (coming from mother google), but significant differences on hardware. Those who choose the low hardware they basiclaly choose to release a low end phone (even if its price is high end, it is still a low end offering)
AnonD-725837, 30 Apr 2018Independent testing of 8th graders in China revealed half with IQs less than 90.Genious level of intellgience (on adults):
Racist mods unfortuantely removed my last post, but they still let yours.
Chinese are smart people, this should not be a controversial statement. I'm not a chinese even, but I tust their judgement, especially on phones. They see far and widd, an industry made of wise people.
The lack of 3.5mm adapter, the notch, the high ram, high battery, phones basically becoming rablets. All pushed by the Chinese, all clearly the future (bezels, low battery, mini sizes, 3.5mm adapter; all failed non-chinese ideas).
Anonymous, 01 May 2018I have to agree. Muktitasking is what eats ram a lot and not so much mustitaskin with phones a... moreThere is not a single 4gb phone that is not significantly slower than a 6gb phone.
It's pretty much the only important upgrade if you want a fast phone. Anything else is being lost by the fact that no more than a few apps can be stored in memory (on the low ram model).
Never understood those who buy flagships with such a low ram. Speed wise they are mid rangers (at best) you dummies. You want your flagship to be flagship level in all. Starting with ram amount (most important), storage speed (second important) and eventually ram speed (3rd important, the article got it wrong, amount is more important). SoC only comes after those and moatly if play intensive games or do cpu intenaive tasks, esle it is mostly trivial at this point... Funny to think given that it is basically the only thing they test in performance tests (the one thing that matters so very little at this point).
The game has changed in two very important ways to curb the memory bumping game.
1: it's not about blazing fast speeds, it's about being fast enough for longer periods of time. Lower power draw has taken the lead in requirements.
2: software optimization. this is largely tied to the first point. instead of relying on huge amounts of RAM to run things, they're optimizing things to actually run on smaller amounts of RAM, thus improving power management in the process
zamroni1, 01 May 2018DRAM needs refresh. The refresh consumes power. Bigger DRAM means higher power consumption. 4 ... moreI have to agree. Muktitasking is what eats ram a lot and not so much mustitaskin with phones at this moment. But in future there can be more phones that replase laptops in the offices by using extrenal displays and keyboards. When those will get more popular and start really replasing laptops in the offices, then there will be Great increase In the needed ram.
So for now the 4Gb can be enough, but not for long.
It is cheaper to have a phone that replases laptop than have both so it is viable option in the future!
AnonD-725837, 30 Apr 2018Independent testing of 8th graders in China revealed half with IQs less than 90.No wonder, late development is another feature of high IQ population (their brains develop more slowly).
Average IQ of adults is 105, quite greater than the average westerner or Indian. No wonder that all the trends that make sense start in China and then are being criticized by westerners or indians ... they don't get it.
Chinese are super smart and see far (btw japanese too, which is why japan only phones were also ahead of their time, for examole first bezeless phones were japan only, sharp phones ... ahead of their times).
DRAM needs refresh. The refresh consumes power. Bigger DRAM means higher power consumption. 4 GB is enough for smart phone because it only runs maximum 1 foreground app
Most mobile quad core intels support atleast 64GB of dual channel RAM. The reason for 16/32GB max limit is device size rather than processor. You simply cannot fit more than 2 slots without taking significant hit on space. Most laptops which support 64GB RAM are either too thick/heavy or are too expensive. What Intel can limit theoretically is the amount of "banks" or "density" - i.e. not being able to use 32GB RAM sticks in a single slot even if they are available.
AnonD-450057, 29 Apr 2018My laptop has 32gb of ram and a regular i7700
I don't see how that limit of 16gb is right what brand?
are you sure it is 700?
given Intel knows his CPUs way better than every one else and given your cpu is 720 : https://ark.intel.com/products/43122/Intel-Core-i7-720QM-Processor-6M-Cache-1_60-GHz or 740 : https://ark.intel.com/products/49024/Intel-Core-i7-740QM-Processor-6M-cache-1_73-GHz which none of them can support more than 8GB RAM(you can be sure with Vertical Segment be mobile which identifies CPU is a laptop one not Desktop.)
so please enlighten me that haw you could use 32GB on a CPU which was limit to 8GB?
Akinaro, 29 Apr 2018GPU VRAM memory is used mostly in games, most of GPU acceleration that you see in media apps d... morewell i was completely talking about games not apps cause almost none of them in android wont use GPU for heavy tasks.
and games may focus on ram speed and bondwith which is currently no way what manufactures currently doing.
so i guess it is ok we say we need more ram to just make the lack of speed in memory(until companies try to speed up rams)
I don't blame author, historian usually mess up with numbers when then dig into graves.
8 GB is 8192 MB
4 GB is 4096 MB
AnonD-754505, 29 Apr 2018Yes, I have soldered a shunt onto my Titan Xp recently to increase the power budget. I have al... moreThanks, you weren't the only one who got a laugh out of it. Supposedly spent time and money negotiating for parts with 28 different companies who only deal in wholesale, to build a custom "handheld rig", managed to put everything together, got the software stack up & running on the Frankenstein hardware, all this without R&D, but will ditch it (and all the hard work & money that went into it) in an instant because a stranger on the internet didn't believe in it.
Idon'tCare, 29 Apr 2018You ain't need much RAM for smartphones, unless you're using it for AR or for some computing. ... moreActually yes. But if you're looking at the software development side, with its growing feature and service, more complicated UI component, i think even at the usual usage, our phone still needs a lot of ram usage.