Jamesschwarz987, 20 May 2018of course NO. bigger sensor always means better detail, FoV, and DR.
But what most nowadays... moreWhat's wrong with their firmware and image processing? You put the dial on, for example, Aperture priority, set the aperture and the wanted picture style, and shoot. You even have touch screens for everything. And if you don't like any of the picture styles, you can set a custom one, or you can process the RAW files later, to your liking.
What's not good and not solid there?
Shanti Dope, 20 May 2018Android Oreo's market share is rising at a very constant rate, that it might even surpass Noug... moreDid you know first Xiaomi product is MIUI, they didnt too much care about major android upgrade, they care for MIUI upgrade even for 5 years old device with current security patch ?
Did you know xiaomi always update their security patch even though its not major android upgrade ?
Did you know Mi Mix originally a concept phone you can buy ? It is not meant to be like others xiaomi device,..
Lastly did you know how many xiaomi phone line up ? Its not 4 line up like u said.
Before any further talking, please consider to googling first and get the fact right..
Ps : no one care what you have said, this phone will sell like a hot cakes.
Winston, 20 May 2018So, are phones better in dynamic range? And when i say dynamic range, i'm talking about native... moreof course NO. bigger sensor always means better detail, FoV, and DR.
But what most nowadays cheap digital camera missed is how to build a better and solid firmware, incl. their image processing.
LG Superfan, 20 May 2018But still nothing too specialIt's not special definitely, but can yield better images when used correctly.
Having your phone to understand what you are capturing will benefit it from adjusting its parameters accurately.
eurotroll, 20 May 2018Nokia has nothing special. Just over priced brick with stock android that has nothing special.... moreAndroid Oreo's market share is rising at a very constant rate, that it might even surpass Nougat soon enough, especially with new mid range smartphones like Nokia X6, Oppo RealMe 1, Oppo F7, Vivo V9, Huawei P20 Lite, Redmi Note 5 Pro, Zenfone Max Pro M1, and even Zenfone 5Q, all of which are now running on Android Oreo, and at least 75% of them are out of the box, while the others come shortly to the phone as OTA update.
I feel really old now with my Redmi 5 Plus. It's just a 2017 smartphone, which was released around the same time as the Mate 10 Lite. Heck it was even released later on.
In comparison, Huawei has so many models on their lineup, most of which are just similar to each other, with only different names. But their capability to update their phones that quick just puts Xiaomi into shame.
Xiaomi has only like 4 different lineups of phones; Mi Mix, Mi, Mi Note, and Redmi.
Now I understand that flagships will usually get the update first, but the Mi Mix series, which is considered as Xiaomi's highest end lineup, isn't really treated like a flagship at all.
The updates on those phones are as good as Nokia's treat on their Nokia 2.
Huawei at least makes sure to roll out updates quickly before releasing too many phones.
Android Oreo will be 1 year old by the time that update arrives to my phone, and Android P will be the next best thing already.
In comparison, my previous phone, the Asus Zenfone Max, received Marshmallow update OTA for about 2 months before Android Nougat became official, so in that case, I was running the latest version of Android for at least 2 months.
the.one, 20 May 2018I cant understand why some people so obsessed with updates, specially miui users, because if y... moreOreo brings new security features from Google.
While not a big upgrade, there will be certain apps in the future that will be optimized to work better on newer versions of Android OS. Perhaps even some apps might only work on new phones.
I don't need a drastic change in the appearance or usage of the software. I'm only interested in the new features brought by newer version of Android, which are far more important than UI changes.
And I really doubt that Redmi 5 Plus will get Oreo, considering the SnapDragon 625 is already a 2-year old chipset and isn't a mainstream or highly-used one, enough to force the OEMs to give it further updates.
If others are now giving Oreo to their phones, which are also released in the same time that this phone came out, I really think it will no longer be possible.
If it happens, it might be at a time when other phones are already preparing for the Android P upgrade, which is now a considerably bigger upgrade to Android OS.
Shanti Dope, 20 May 2018Dude, updates are the OEMs' responsibility. Newer OS will always work better with apps than ol... moreNokia has nothing special. Just over priced brick with stock android that has nothing special.
At least with MIUI you get more features to discover and wont be boring empty stock version where you need to know what you want.
But then again you will log in with your gmail and copy your old settings over so makes no difference what you had before that didn't get updates.
And you don't need to find more of new interesting programs to try out.
Making new apps is always harder cause you need to support android 6, 7, 8 and then 9 that is coming soon and then comes soon tenth and eleven and so on. If new version pop up so fast then it's harder to make new app's. Half a year for one update.
There is coming loads of android models out every year on lets say android 7 and now 8 and there are not a lot of 18:9 (2:1) screen phones that have Oreo on them and have hope to get even. So think of the size of the world market that still have android 7 and even KitKat android 4.4
The more users you support with your app the better for you.
Winston, 20 May 2018And how do they do that? Cos, as far as i know, the details are either captured, or they are n... moreNah. I'm not into those phones with cheesy words. It's not really worth trying because it's not really there in real world.
Shanti Dope, 20 May 2018With the existence of Oppo RealMe1, and my phone's bigger brother, the Redmi Note 5 Pro (which... moreI cant understand why some people so obsessed with updates, specially miui users, because if you dont check the about phone section you will never ever notice what android version is underneath of the miui, for instance, my mi5 got updated to android oreo, the only change I see is the battery which now last 4-8 hours less than before, no appearance, no performance, no any change... as long as the phone works as it should and gives you the features you want, why care for update? tell me 1 feature that exist in oero and you dont have right now
and redmi 5 plus will get Oreo for sure, you just need to wait
Jamesschwarz987, 20 May 2018well, cheap APS-C mostly never satisfy me on dynamic range. I have a D5100 and a6000.So, are phones better in dynamic range? And when i say dynamic range, i'm talking about native dynamic range, not software induced dynamic range.
Anonymous, 20 May 2018So is a update more important for you then usability of the device it's self ? I buy phone for... moreDude, updates are the OEMs' responsibility. Newer OS will always work better with apps than older ones, and some apps in the future will only work on newer OS's.
I don't even understand why updates are only exclusive to high end phones when it's supposed to be for every single smartphones in the world.
I'm not expecting up to 4 years of support, but I disagree with NO UPDATES at all!
Nokia can update even the lowest end of their phones, and my phone, being superior to that, can't even be updated quickly?? Dude, I'm being scammed!
Updates can be problem-free if they are serious in updating it. Nokia phones all work very well even with daily updates, and that is just from a company who's starting all over again.
Xiaomi has been out and profitable for years now, and their money is enough to invest for improvements in software department. Obviously that's not the case, since they only use them for their own good.
Update is one of the reason why Android still can't overtake iOS. And I'm already ashamed to admit that almost NOTHING has changed in all these years in this regard.
I don't like Apple, in fact I hate their customer service and their decisions, but their update system is seriously the best-in-class today. Yeah sure, they're not as feature-rich as Android, but I'd rather have less features (most of which I don't need at all) with long-term support than feature-packed one but with no updates to make it better.
The reason why iPhone 4 is still a highly-used phone today is because of how it has pretty much all the features from new version of iOS.
If you don't think updates matter, Google won't be requiring every Android phone OEMs to give at least 2-year updates for their phones.
so shame all the apps of xiaomi devices in miui 9.5 becoming to adware
& this adds have nothing to do to turn recommendation on or off
but in miui 8 everything ok
AnonD-732799, 20 May 2018MIUI is one of the main reasons I buy only Xiaomi phones beside that you can officially unlock... moreI don't give a dingle dangle of my carat for the ROM side i do kernel problems & scheduling & try to keep up ROM side modifications as thin as possible. After I am done people can compile & use any monstrosity they like or repack it for MIUI.
Sure MIUI has couple of useful additional futures but you end up like this:
On the other hand only bug we had in months whose a minor cosmetic one:
So who ever says how MIUI isn't falling apart is lying.
Now do check a kernel version on your precious & reference to MIUI security patch level and I will tell you how they lied at least far a half of the year (usually year +).
Jamesschwarz987, 20 May 2018Remember. Sony Xperia line with it's larger 1/2.3" sensor never went for that "AI" branding.AI is the new Auto Mode, brands did it just for the sake of making it as a marketing gimmick targeted for those people buying low-end and mid-end smartphones mostly, because they are the ones who don't know anything, hence they are the most vulnerable to these kind of marketing gimmicky tricks. It is obvious that HUAWEI's AI is just a renamed and improved Auto Mode, I am not feeling the WoW factor from HUAWEI's AI, it doesn't hold up to the definition of artificial intelligence, same goes to those brands trying to rename their Auto Mode into AI. If u want the real artificial intelligence, look at NVIDIA, that is the real definition of artificial intelligence. This just shows how far smartphones are behind in terms of artificial intelligence, the only thing that I see in the smartphone world that could define artificial intelligence is Google's work on Duplex
Winston, 20 May 2018Actually, if you're into photos and want to go for detail and dynamic range, look at digital S... morewell, cheap APS-C mostly never satisfy me on dynamic range. I have a D5100 and a6000.
ZloiYuri, 20 May 2018You definitely never used good stock firmware or stuck in past with crappy outdated UI from Po... moreSo that's what the P in Android P means... You should take a deep breath and read. I've just pointed-out real reasons why people go for custom ROMs, even when they have the best of stock ROMs. Did you miss the part where Google themselves, the creators of Android and makers of some of the best devices out-there, despite giving the best support you could possibly find on Android, are also the ones in which their costumers are at the top to ask for a custom ROM?
Anonym, 20 May 2018Funny, Google's own phones and newer Android Ones are both the most well support Androids and ... moreYou definitely never used good stock firmware or stuck in past with crappy outdated UI from PocketPC times.
Shanti Dope, 20 May 2018With the existence of Oppo RealMe1, and my phone's bigger brother, the Redmi Note 5 Pro (which... moreSo is a update more important for you then usability of the device it's self ? I buy phone for the usability of them and not for updates. I could care less do I get them or not. Updates don't make my phones more useful. I don't understand your kind of people that buy phones just to get updates and don't care about the point of phone it's self. Why even bother to look these budget phones when the most important thing for you is updates ? Go with Nokia or with Pixel phones that will give you the updates you cant live without !