Anonymous, 15 Jun 2018With project treble phone manufacturers can technically release OS updates 3 days after Google... moreWe agree that they lack incentive as of yet, which is why Google should take command. Perhaps instead of changing the terms for getting GApps on Android just yet, they could instead start promoting Chrome OS for phones, and in time seize further development of Android so as to push the remaining stubborn few into Google's hands.
LordSaradus, 07 Jun 2018Such utter and complete rubbish. Stock Android gives you a mostly blank canvas, that is still ... moreWith project treble phone manufacturers can technically release OS updates 3 days after Google release them , Essential PH-1 managed itnwnd they're w tiny company.. the problem is Samsung LG Sony etc themselves not their own customised version but lack of monetary incentive for quick updates.
€750 for this .. lol.. get yourself a Samsung S9, Pixel 2 XL or iPhone 8 plus, heck even a Huawei P20 pro.
These can all be found on sale quite a few places near this price.
Gapps are bloatware, 29 May 2018Stock Android is garbage. It has all of Googles bloatware and no enhancements from the device ... moreSuch utter and complete rubbish. Stock Android gives you a mostly blank canvas, that is still beautiful in its minimalism. If you want extras you may go to the Play Store for it. Stock Android gives me control over the device, and the most complete and consistent performance out there.
Samsung, LG, Sony, and pretty much all Chinese OEMs can go fuck themselves. Everyone would be better off if they released fewer phones, and if the phones they launched came with stock or near stock Android. If that were to happen, updates would be out, across the field of Android devices, within months of a new release, rather than never or six months to a year later.
Google should honestly just do to Android what they've done to Chrome OS, into the future. Yes, OEMs may add apps, but the software stays the same, so that Google can release updates centrally.
Anonymous, 24 May 2018Why pay 700 euros for a device with the exact same software as their 200 euro device?200euro?
Have you seen Moto C?
Anonymous, 24 May 2018More Chinese money flows to the company, as evidenced by recent news.Ginko Partners is not Chinese. Just like original Nokia investors, it was founded by a former Nokia employee Jean-Francois Baril, the person who worked under Tim Cook at Compaq and was responsible for Nokias famed supply chain system in the 1990s.
LordSaradus, 24 May 2018Stock Android is heaven on Earth Stock Android is garbage. It has all of Googles bloatware and no enhancements from the device manufacturer.
Stock android devices are a full generation behind in terms of software tech.
Nokia12, 24 May 2018Still sirocco is also a good phone if you don't care about benchmark numbers and value design... moreSure every phone is good if you dont care about benchmark the design the camera and the battery .
I had a nokia 8 sirocco a week ago and im so happy with performance and camera,also i enjoy the sound quality.i love nokia quality and design
AnonD-668131, 24 May 2018Nokia atm is only...a brand name nothing more and is sad. Nokia unfortunately hired S. Elop as... moreNokia isn't what it was, but HMD Global, a Finnish company, with HQ's on the other side of the road from the actual old Nokia, does exactly as much with their phones as Google or Apple does. Just because it's a new company that licences the Nokia name, doesn't mean it isn't Nokia, they're made up of people from the old Nokia, and they work with them frequently. They're starting up anew, and thus have some evolving to do, but are still better than or on par with most other smartphone brands, especially because of their use of Android One.
Nokia12, 24 May 2018Flagship for this year will come later with SD 845 etc , and latest specs .. Maybe around Se... moreStill sirocco is also a good phone if you don't care about benchmark numbers and value design more . It's probably the best 16:9 designed phone , praised by most reviews for its premium unique design that gives you that luxury feeling..
MickyFoley, 24 May 2018Every device shipped with Android 8.x HAS (!) to support treble. This is a direct requirement ... moreApologies, I thought it was certified by Google in February, running Nougat software. Good to hear they decided to ship it with Oreo.
Nokia atm is only...a brand name nothing more and is sad. Nokia unfortunately hired S. Elop as CEO. Elop deleted promising project - MeeGo as well as Symbian. MeeGo was to be created with Intel and other partners. Lack of Symbian and MeeGo development caused a big drop in sales, people switched to Android. Then introduced Windows Phone, which was still lame. Windows Phone development not allow to treat it as the main system! No other company producing telephones had only Windows Phone in offer...
Slow development, lack of many functions, options and above all the lack of programs and games caused little interest in people and tragic sales. Then Nokia, whose shares on the stock exchange recorded a continuous downtick by Elopa sold the mobile department ... to Microsoft. Where did Stephen Elop work before? He was an employee of Microsoft ;) Microsoft after a short time of continuing a failed idea with Windows Phone / Mobile ceased work and part of the phone department sold...yes, to Foxconn!
Today is just a sign on phone nothing more. Nokia itself doesn't design phones, doesn't design the whole system, gui, is not a pioneer, doesn't show news stuff as the largest sensor in the phones in the Nokia Pure View 808 ;)
Nokia 8 S ? Maybe for 500€...
Anonymous, 24 May 2018Agreed, stock Android sucks.Stock Android is heaven on Earth
ZloiYuri, 24 May 2018HMD is "finnish" company, right. But what do that "finnish" company? Just marketing. Other thi... moreHMD and Nokia are as Finnish as Apple is American. You may say neither is enough as the physical hardware product is manufactured elsewhere, but that's commonplace at this point.