I am sad for this:
"That means there will be a job loss of around 500,000 - 1,200,000 people"
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018true...
the factory should pay the worker $1500/month.
but, would you pay $2500 for the bran... moreMan to be exaxct at Shen Zen china largest Foxconn factory in the world where apple phones are made people earn 0,20-0,25 eurocents a day and shift managers get from 0,70 to 1 euro a day. And people here works 16-20 hours a day 7 days a weekn with a 10 minutes break time for lunch.
So if we raise their salary from 0,20 to 1500 dollars one phone made by apple will cost several millions because in this factory a several millions of people working because they have no other choice.
In case of UK for example if you are unemployed country pay all your exopenses your bills rent etc. and you get like 120-150 pounds a week for food drinks clothes and anything else you like.
In case of China if you dont work you get nothing not even a penny, This country wont supports you this way.
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018Not the right topic to be sarcastic about. It's people lives we are talking about. Do you know... moreYou meant, workers flow? (err like quiting early)
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018This is just misleading. Amazon knew that things weren't right and they had already asked Foxc... morewell...
amazon need to spend the money to fix it... don't ask for cheaper price from foxcon. tell foxcon that amazon willing to pay more because they care about the worker
Over 100 hours overtime.
That means every week they are doing +23 hours overtime. Full-time hours is already 38 hours per week. That means the total is 61 hours per week. So it means the workers are not working 7.6 hours for 5 days each week. Instead they are working 10.2 hours for 6 days each week.
Just imagine working Monday-to-Saturday, working from 8am-to-7.00pm, just working working working. All that for around 780 Yuan (or US$121.81) per week, or roughly 130 Yuan (or roughly US$20.30) each day, or each month is 3,380 Yuan (US$527.86). Although Foxconn now provides free meals and accomodation (paid by Apple), so expenditure is non-existent for most workers.
So it seems quite low, and the hours exhausting... so why do the workers put up with it?
Its because in the context of work in China, Foxconn really is good because they pay much much higher than the standard pay, the facility is much much better, and there are support mechanisms. The average Chinese worker is jealous of those Foxconn workers. Whilst the Official Average Pay is close to 6,000 Yuan... its disproportionately skewed by the very wealthy people at the top. In reality, its actually close to around 2,000 Yuan and that's before expenses.
However, I think Apple can build iPhones cheaper if they did it in the USA... it will mean that most of the manufacturing would be automated and done by robots. That means there will be a job loss of around 500,000 - 1,200,000 people. There really is a "human cost" associated with these, and its scary to realise people need their jobs moreso than the jobs need the people.
atichko, 12 Jun 2018I keep on reading that these companies are to blame but I thing we forget an important factor ... moreIt has nothing to do with Apple. They outsource it from Foxconn and they get the cheap labour.labour.
This is just misleading. Amazon knew that things weren't right and they had already asked Foxconn to fix them. Now an independent report confirms Amazon's findings and apparently Foxconn hasn't taken enough/any action yet. To blame this completely on Amazon feels simply wrong.
How on earth Foxconn Boss can afford a luxury yatch & invite Hong Kong actress for a sensual trip ? That how Asia Bosses is.
""Amazon has made an official statement that it has completed an audit of the Hengyang facility in March of 2018 that had identified two issues of concern""
and i bet those concerns were
1- oh sh** we were caught
2- how can we cover this up without it costing a fortune
I keep on reading that these companies are to blame but I thing we forget an important factor in this discussion...us, we, consumers. We want it cheep, we want it all and we want it yesterday. Do you really think that companies are willing to sacrifice benefits so that we, spoiled brats, can have for almost free? There is of course also the other end of the spectrum where some companies, kuch Apple kuch, sells expensive goods while the labour doesn't earn enough to live. Again, we are to blame as we just want all this crap and if possible for almost free.
AnonD-241270, 11 Jun 2018LOL! Is not Amazon alone...Foxconn part for Apple, Samsung factory's have the same problems bu... moreIn capitalism corporations, banks can do what they want. They control the politicians, media, they write the laws.
companies just need productivity they never think of the workers who achieve this productivity.
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018I'm always surprised to learn/read that American corporate really want to 'presure' chinese fa... more I think the companies you named have executives that mainly about care about lining their own pockets, as opposed to shareholders, low level workers, or anyone else. :-( .
aida27, 12 Jun 2018Mostly, it's happening in the east! I'm wodering why... It hapens for a simple reason- greedy workers that got higher positions held.
Mostly, it's happening in the east! I'm wodering why...
I am no longer a fan of Amazon, and NOT because Donald Trump thinks that Amazon ought to be paying more dividends to the U.S. Post Office. I received an email not long ago from Amazon stating that if I download and log in once to their Amazon Shopping app that I would receive a free 10 Amazon gift certificate. After I did so, I never received said
gift certificate. I inquired. I also forwarded them their email. They claimed that it was spam. I went and found out where they are headquartered, and how to take them to small claims court. I was just thinking developing a class action law suit before this story broke. Remember everyone: nothing ventured, nothing gained. I bet our pals at One Plus's marketing department would agree.
Anonymous, 11 Jun 2018They work for 200$ at month and have no future.true...
the factory should pay the worker $1500/month.
but, would you pay $2500 for the brand new iPhone?
or maybe still pay $1500 for brand new iphone, but apple only have 20% profit
I'm always surprised to learn/read that American corporate really want to 'presure' chinese factory so much. asking very low price, but EXPECTING the factory give good condition to worker.
IF amazon, apple or any other american brand really care about the worker, they should PAY MORE for the device. they should tell the factory, that they're willing to pay more. otherwise, shut up.
AnonD-324584, 11 Jun 2018He was being sarcastic friend. You read it wrong Not the right topic to be sarcastic about. It's people lives we are talking about. Do you know how high the suicide rate is at Foxconn?
Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018yeah. thats why i dont like to be a fan of any corporation's product.
those corporations can ... morethe **cking fanbase does not affect the product anyways since they are making phone on their own accord and copy on other company , we are talking about people here , if you are the boss and is lenient to the labourers the prudoct will be poor , and if you are strict the product will meet the its expectation
Never the less WW3 is coming so nothing to worry about
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