Merwyn Fernandes, 25 Jun 2018And were did you get the leaked information that Nokia is supposed to be mass market , are you... moreSo you think phones priced less than half of iphone are supposed to be premium and niche? Top end nokia is 50k INR, anyone looking for an iphone can easily buy a nokia on cash.... BMW starts at close to 50 times that amount, which people can not buy with ease. Nokia actually had a premium niche brand Vertu which they sold off anyways.. If you call nokia premium, show me their current android phones with price tags matching vertu...
P.S You see, Suzuki actually manufactures some of the best bikes in the world, which are costlier than some cars too, so I don't think you made a proper comparison there
Anonymous, 25 Jun 2018And samsung does not sell those phones at all... what's your point. BMW is not meant to be mas... moreAnd were did you get the leaked information that Nokia is supposed to be mass market , are you an employee at Nokia.
Also I am using BMW as a comparison , Where BMW is Nokia and Suzuki is Xiaomi.
Nokia is at the high end of the market and Xiaomi is at the low end.
So the point is ,I buy what I can afford and don't advise the brand to reduce their prices.
Merwyn Fernandes, 23 Jun 2018BMW sells because of :
And Finally Brand Name.
An... moreAnd samsung does not sell those phones at all... what's your point. BMW is not meant to be mass market product unlike phones. Can't get that in your head I suppose...
BMW is high end of automobiles, nokia is low-mid end of phones, where is the comparison there?
Anonymous, 23 Jun 2018That'd only work if Nokia had a BMW reputation. And they aren't doing much to add to their BMW... moreBMW sells because of :
And Finally Brand Name.
And Nokia has all the 4 , Tank like Build quality , Reliability with Their two years of guaranteed Updates , Service Centers all over and Brand Recognition.
What Does Xiaomi offer in contrast , Cheap Build quality , Counterfeit Products , No Updates , Weak Service and Zero Brand Recognition.
Xiaomi sells , Cause cheap products sell , it's like Saying Maruthi Suzuki Sells better than BMW obviously they will sell.
Nokia Selling their products for low prices will only dent their image as a cheap phone manufacturer, That the reason No one buys Xiaomi above 20k.
Samsung sells SD 450 devices for 30k , So Nokia can Very well Sell SD 636 for anything above 20k.
Merwyn Fernandes, 22 Jun 2018 Doesn't Make sense , You would any company Sell a Device Superior To its existing device for ... moreThat'd only work if Nokia had a BMW reputation. And they aren't doing much to add to their BMW reputation. And I'm not suggesting they launch their phones at a lower price globally. I'm saying they play their audience. Launch the phone at a cheaper rate in price sensitive markets. Or bring in things like x amount of cashback for the first few months or some other deal. They won't sell the phone well in India at a high price, not when the public buys Xiaomi phones and only knows of Nokia from the Lumia lineup. That is not a brand association you want.
And brand images aren't formed by mid range or low end devices. Samsung doesn't have it's brand image bcz of underpowered phones with essential sensors missing on their "On series". They have a brand image bcz of their "Galaxy S" and "Galaxy Note" series. Same way Intel isn't known for their "celeron/pentium" processors, they're known for their "i7" processors. The flagships generate brand image. Not low/mid-range device. Low/Mid range devices are meant for mass adoption. Meant to make you like their brand and push you to their flagship.
Arvind7955, 22 Jun 2018X6 has SD636 while 6.1 has SD630
X6 also has dual cameras and "AI (read gimmick)" capabilitie... moreNokia Doesn't use Cark Zeiss Branding For China , So it may very well be introduced in the Global Market.
Also Android One is not used in China.
Regarding the Build quality you can never tell , till there is a proper test by Jerry Rig Everything.
Cause Nokia's Tank like Build Quality is also from the inside and much as it is from the outside.
So glass panel alone does not make the phone fragile.
Anonymous, 22 Jun 2018You say there are two ways of doing business. Costly devices that get more profits but sell le... more Doesn't Make sense , You would any company Sell a Device Superior To its existing device for lesser price.
Huawei and Honor are different Brands. Nokia 1-8 Series and Nokia X series are two different Models or Lineups , Like The huawei P and Mate Series.
According to your suggestion Nokia should Set up a sister brand like Honor , Which isn't logical just because some people would want to buy their Phones for cheaper.
If you want to buy a BMW you won't go and tell the company , I want to buy a BMW so reduce the price or create a new brand just because I want to Buy a BMW.
The Sensible thing is If I can't buy a BMW I'll get a Toyota , If I can't but a Nokia Phone I'll buy a Xiaomi or an Honor.
Carol, 22 Jun 2018I do not see, why would x6 be more expensive then 6.1. A notch does not raise the bar bei 1200... moreX6 has SD636 while 6.1 has SD630
X6 also has dual cameras and "AI (read gimmick)" capabilities. Hence the higher expected price.
But 6.1 has Zeiss optics and literally a tank like build quality while X6 is fragile as it has glass panel on back.
Arvind7955, 22 Jun 2018Makes sense. what everyone is ignoring is Nokia 6.1 is costlier than X6 in china too. If no... moreI do not see, why would x6 be more expensive then 6.1. A notch does not raise the bar bei 1200, as crapple claim.
Brands r dng too much o.a while launching android one or valu for money device in india. Atleast they could not able to sell same price as it in other country.
what everyone is ignoring is Nokia 6.1 is costlier than X6 in china too.
If nokia sells X6 globally at a price higher than 6.1 then that will do more damage to brand value.
Let's just hope for the best.
Merwyn Fernandes, 22 Jun 2018That's not the Point.
There are 2 ways to go about doing business.
1st way is to price t... moreYou say there are two ways of doing business. Costly devices that get more profits but sell less and cheap devices that get less profit but sell in higher number. But no one said you can't do both. Take Huawei for instance, they sell their Honor lineup at a cheap price with less profits with honor apps to generate money. Whereas the Mate or P series bring in the real money.
I think this is what Nokia should do with their X lineup. Let the 6.1, 7 plus, 8 Sirocco be their category where they generate a profit and brand reputation where as the X lineup is for cheap phones that generate mass adoption. The only mistake Nokia made here is, unlike Huawei their cheap and costly lineups clash. You don't see a Mate/P series phone launch at sub-30k (with the exception of P20 lite) neither do you see a Honor device past 30k..
Adi, 22 Jun 2018The priced will be around 16k for 32GB variant and 18k-20k for 64GB variant due to the Demand ... more6.1 is sale dead even if 32gb variant is available at anything less than 19K.
This is the only reason they will not launch any model at a price less than 20K.
They may launch 5.1+ or X5 for 16k though.
When it comes to pricing in India, Nokia is habitual of shooting itself in foot.
They WON'T launch X6 base variant for Rs.13999 (1299 yuan approx.) that all Indians are hoping for, instead they will totally ignore World's Second Largest Smartphone Market & launch X6 for 1899 yuan or Rs.19999 !
People commenting here will feel the pinch (OUCH it's expensive) and revert back to next generation of Redmi Note 6 or Honor 8X or whatever lenovo comes up with !
The priced will be around 16k for 32GB variant and 18k-20k for 64GB variant due to the Demand and Hype of the device. If it will come under 16000 for 64GB then whats the use of nokia 6.1. if the price of the device gets above 18k then it will be bit expensive device. I wish they sell this device around below 16k.
Blutbad-fuchsbau, 22 Jun 2018There are a couple of reasons...
1. It's Apple. They're in all countries, and they partner wi... moreThat's not the Point.
There are 2 ways to go about doing business.
1st way is to price the Product higher So Even with less units sold you earn more profit.
2nd way is to Sell the products for less price but in more volume.
Apple Follows the first Way and So does Nokia , Xiaomi Does it 2nd way cause No one buys Xiaomi if they price it higher.
Its all about brand recognition and ability to charge more.
Merwyn Fernandes, 22 Jun 2018You Guys Don't know or understand how Business works , Can I ask you one simple question???
... moreThere are a couple of reasons...
1. It's Apple. They're in all countries, and they partner with operators in the US for giving iPhones on a yearly contract, reduces the price, plus they pay for using it on the carrier.
2. A lot of women prefer iPhones well, because they're iPhones. Yo B!tch I'm Rich
3.Apple can price it as much they want, because iPhone users are sheep that will buy the iPhone whatever the cost. They're called iSheep xD
By the way, are you from Mumbai, Goa or Mangalore? Me, I'm a Bandra bugger. Fernandes too!