Blankman, 26 Sep 2011I'd wager good money that I'm a better business man than you by your comments.
Why should ... moreIf you want to make some money, then you should supply your competition. But if you want to take over the market and dominate, then you need to eliminate your rivals.
Like i wrote before, Samsung would make ten times more profit margin and external revenue if the could disable Apple for and sell 15 million Samsung phones Apples tires customers instead of selling spare parts to Apple.
The question is, does Samsung Electronics want to dominate the market, or keep supplying Apple with spare parts for royalty and piggy change.
Someone here wrote that 4% of "Samsungs" revenue comes from Apple, which is highly unlikely. First of all, are you talking about The Samsung Group or just Samsung Electronics? They are seperate.
Samsung Mobile is a subsidiary to Samsung Electronics and have their own revenue. Samsung Electronics is itself a subsidiary to The Samsung Group.
The Samsung Group also has Samsung Life Insurance, Samsung Heavy Industries and Samsung C&T etc. Not only Samsung Industry.
Samsung Electronics does not for instance include profit from other Samsung Electronic divisons in their handset reports, like Apple does.
Apple put together the sale of MacBooks, Ipods, iPhones and accessories to the profit report. Which is kind of lame. If Samsung Elctronics added all profits of TV, MP3, Phones, BluRay, PC's etc then Apple profits would look like a pebble in the sea.
Blankman, 26 Sep 2011In the main scheme of things, 4% (or whatever it is) might seem like a small amount, but it's ... moreI didnt say 4% is a small amount, did I??? On the contrary, as I said its much money when you compare Samsung's other offerings... And its a fact Samsung would not like to lose Apple... They would not dream it in their wildest dreams...
TechnoFreak, 26 Sep 2011Actually 4% is not less when you consider Samsung's other trades like bada phones, mid phones,... moreIn the main scheme of things, 4% (or whatever it is) might seem like a small amount, but it's a huge amount of business, dollars wise, that Samsung will not want to lose. What message would Samsung send out, if they had a hissy fit and refused to make products for one of it's customers?
Of course, if you hate Apple and are a Samsung fanboy, then you won't listen to common sense, and make up rubbish like the "Reality Distortion Field"
Anonymous, 26 Sep 2011Samsung would have a ten times bigger profit margin by selling 10 million Samsung handsets to ... moreI'd wager good money that I'm a better business man than you by your comments.
Why should Samsung just give up manufacturing for Apple? It's good business sense.
Many successful manufacturers produce goods for rival companies.
AnonD-535, 26 Sep 2011I didn't say the 4% sales of Samsung components to Apple was less than anything. I just point... moreWhy would Apple want to sell anything to Samsung or any other company out there??? This is a baseless question.. And whatever Apple's business plans is, the fact is its products are always the biggest hits and that is what matters...
TechnoFreak, 26 Sep 2011Actually 4% is not less when you consider Samsung's other trades like bada phones, mid phones,... moreI didn't say the 4% sales of Samsung components to Apple was less than anything. I just pointed out it was a minor fraction of total revenue. I imagine it would be an even smaller percentage of profits....
A few questions. does Apple sell anything to Samsung? Does Apple assemble anything themselves?
It seems like Apple's business plan is to outsource all production activities. This produces schedule and quality vulnerabilities with one's web of providers. It also allows one to ignore one's manufacturer's business practices.
Oh.. We miss Steve Jobs who would be saying "YOU ARE NOT TOUCHING IT CORRECTLY..." for this issue...
AnonD-535, 26 Sep 20114% is a small percentage, 1/25 of total sales. Loss of Apples business would be a minor marke... moreActually 4% is not less when you consider Samsung's other trades like bada phones, mid phones, budget phones, tvs, monitors, washing machines etc etc...
AnonD-20221, 26 Sep 2011Well, actually Apple is Samsung's biggest customer... 4% of their revenues comes from Apple al... more4% is a small percentage, 1/25 of total sales. Loss of Apples business would be a minor market fluctuation to Samsung. I bet Apple desperately wants the share to be more, as Samsung's displays are industry leaders...
AnonD-20221, 26 Sep 2011Well, actually Apple is Samsung's biggest customer... 4% of their revenues comes from Apple al... more4% is not huge. Iphone 5 will go down vs Htc sensation and samsung galaxy s2. Nexus prime will be in its own level.
AnonD-20221, 26 Sep 2011Well, actually Apple is Samsung's biggest customer... 4% of their revenues comes from Apple al... moreYeah and Samsung can own Apple with true infringments instead of playing illegal childish games like Apple. So Apple needs to stop their games beofre they go under bad.
Anonymous, 26 Sep 2011Samsung would have a ten times bigger profit margin by selling 10 million Samsung handsets to ... moreWell, actually Apple is Samsung's biggest customer... 4% of their revenues comes from Apple alone... So Samsung cant really afford to upset its biggest customer...
AnonD-9023, 26 Sep 2011Whatever u say next iPhone sells better than iPhone 4 just like iPad 2 .
People Laughed at ... moreWell...that kinda didn't go anywhere..
Isn't it normal for Apple products to have some 'delay' or issue that might mean that supply is not large enough to meet demand?
I think after this many times it's a bit more plain to see that it's a marketing hype - there probably isn't a real shortage/problem with the supplier.
Deja vu time!
Blankman, 26 Sep 2011What utter claptrap. Samsung will make the parts that Apple want, for the huge amount of mo... moreSamsung would have a ten times bigger profit margin by selling 10 million Samsung handsets to tired iPhone users rather then selling 10 million spare parts to Apple. I hope you never become a financial advisor for any company that is looking to dominate the market.
They open here a new Apple Store, they have over 50+ iPads, in one week they sold ALL iPads and almost out of iPods....people are waiting iPhone 5...
Even are hard to find in retails like BestBuy or CompUSA, they only make orders BUT almost no stock on stores.
So?? Apple stills in sales lead here, even with all the manufacturers together can beat tha sales number in just one brand... hurt to the heaters!!!
Anonymous, 26 Sep 2011OMG, thank you. I just dropped everything I know, including my brain. I will now only listen t... moreWow, someone is bitter. I'm sorry that i was not seduced by "Reality Distortion Field". I still have a brain and not naive. Everybody knows Apple uses Samsung hardware, been doing it for years. Oh, except you... for some strange reason..