Samsung's Exynos 9820 to come with tri-cluster, 2+2+4 CPU Comments
- AnonD-558092
- r7b
Ahadjisavvas, 12 Jul 2018The exynos m3 core is nicknamed meerkat hence why he called it that.It's Mongoose. I couldn't find anything about Meerkat+Exynos.
- xXENDER FREAKXx
- sRc
H-1, 12 Jul 2018Poor 810, the go-to whenever a heating example is needed XD Most manufacturers opt for a lo... moreThere shouldn't be a problem for longevity in modern smartphones, even if the clock speed is reaching it's peak. And yeah, feeling bad for the SNAPDRAGON 810? I feel u friend, but since this truth is already stuck in the history of chipsets, it's hard to forget xD
- Mzma PIB
- KZ8
Kiyasuriin, 12 Jul 2018You can decide to have whatever arrangement you wantYes I know core arrangement can 4+4 or 2+2+4 but DynamIQ should be in single cluster not in 3 cluster like old big.LITTLE one..
- Fulljack
- tDS
H-1, 12 Jul 2018Poor 810, the go-to whenever a heating example is needed XD Most manufacturers opt for a lo... moredo you know dynamics fluid in physics? the same concept were applied in cpu. manufacturer could design a wide pipeline with low clock or narrow pipeline with high clock. narrow pipeline design were applied because it's cheaper and power and thermal weren't much of an issue, given an active cooling. on mobile where everyone relies on passive cooling, this become a problem.
- Kiyasuriin
- Hxp
Fulljack, 12 Jul 2018back then, arm's cpu design have a narrow pipeline structure, but could produce higher clock. ... moreVery likely indeed
- H-1
- gyy
xXENDER FREAKXx, 12 Jul 2018I think it's still possible to reach 3.30gHz, there's definitely a solution to it like their o... morePoor 810, the go-to whenever a heating example is needed XD
Most manufacturers opt for a lower clock, which sometimes can be overridden in certain occasions or by rooting. If not for better heat dissipation then for power reasons.
As far as my little knowledge go, and do coewct me if I'm wrong, SoCs are more stable/long lived if they work in lower clock speeds than reaching the limit frequently.
- Ahadjisavvas
- dWA
AnonD-558092, 12 Jul 2018"Meerkat"? Where did that come from? And A57 cores are old-gen high performance cores. Perhap... moreThe exynos m3 core is nicknamed meerkat hence why he called it that.
- Ahadjisavvas
- dWA
You guys are trusting iceuniverse way too much,moreso than you have to,you've seen his leaks and track record and you know that most of the time his leaks turn out to be wrong on so many levels. We are way far off from an official exynos unveiling and things change more often than not especially in chip design. Now regarding his leaks,his track record is not anywhere near proven,so i don't trust him that much,I'll wait till Samsung pull the wraps off the exynos 9820 soc to know the differences and features that'll make it stand out compared to its last gen counterpart and i know that Samsung holds a separate event of their own where they showcase their new chipset and that takes place late October to early November,I'll wait till then to know more about the 9820 and its defining features.
- xXENDER FREAKXx
- sBN
Mzma PIB, 12 Jul 2018I tot DynamIQ A75 + A55 has change multicore big.little into singel cluster? Why need 3 cluster.."If it ain't wrong, don't fix it" Just hope that it things won't go wrong here...
- Fulljack
- tDS
Kiyasuriin, 11 Jul 2018I am very realistic. Up until note 4 Samsung made a more powerful variant of the S of the same... moreback then, arm's cpu design have a narrow pipeline structure, but could produce higher clock. overclocking those chip were easy and doesn't need any uArch refinement. then, sd810 happened. not only the process were faulty, so does the chip itself with high performance draws power exponentially and so does the thermal. fast forward today, we have a wide cpu with lower clock. thanks to leading 10nm process and arch refinement, we could hit 2.96 GHz with SD845 provided it has better cooling. yeah, it's probably the one that'll be used in note 9
- Anonymous
- IVM
Benchmarks multicore score will suffer for a 2+6 configuration and their custom core is too power hungry to use 4 at max clockspeed, have to throttle.
- Kiyasuriin
- Hxp
Mzma PIB, 12 Jul 2018Yes I know core arrangement can 4+4 or 2+2+4 but DynamIQ should be in single cluster not in 3 ... moreThat's what non techies cannot understand. There's no "Should be X". There is an optimal preformance/Efficiancy ratio though. But each OEM can use whatever configuration they want from 1:7 to 7:1, to even 2:3:3 config.
- AnonD-558092
- r7b
The last Oracle, 12 Jul 2018Actually Samsung didn't admit it, but the Meerkat cores have issues with power management. Tha... more"Meerkat"? Where did that come from?
And A57 cores are old-gen high performance cores. Perhaps you meant A55, which are new gen low-power cores (but maybe still more than the under utilized A35 cores)
- Mzma PIB
- KZ8
Kiyasuriin, 12 Jul 2018You can decide to have whatever arrangement you wantYes I know core arrangement can 4+4 or 2+2+4 but DynamIQ should be in single cluster not in 3 cluster like old big.LITTLE one..
- Kiyasuriin
- nYT
AnonD-594740, 11 Jul 2018Yes, but some if not all of those exynos were used in other smartphones besides the note, so t... moreOnly 3 of them, the S800, S801, and 5420.
- The last Oracle
- vIc
Actually Samsung didn't admit it, but the Meerkat cores have issues with power management. That's why those benchmark scores were rather detrimental to the battery. In Apple the A10 and A11 have serious heat issues and the performance has forced diminishing over a period of time.
Then A75/ 75 cores are better at power/battery management. Also, Samsung needs to fine tune between a smaller processor due to the advantage of speed and one with better power managemenr. I think it should consider more of the A57 cores with a higher and lower clock configuration for a multicore usage and power management balance. Those cores can be pushed for much longer without overheating or battery drain issues.
- Kiyasuriin
- nYT
Mzma PIB, 12 Jul 2018I tot DynamIQ A75 + A55 has change multicore big.little into singel cluster? Why need 3 cluster..You can decide to have whatever arrangement you want
- Mzma PIB
- KZ8
I tot DynamIQ A75 + A55 has change multicore big.little into singel cluster? Why need 3 cluster..
- Anonymous
- 7sy
The A76 cores will be clocked lowish, to be better P/W than the custom cores but still high enough to run everything better than the A55 cores.
I estimate they will be clocked between 2.4-2.8Ghz, well below the claimed speed of 3.3Ghz by ARM.
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