Samsung's Exynos 9820 to come with tri-cluster, 2+2+4 CPU Comments
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H-1, 11 Jul 2018I don't think it will go beyond 3000 MHz, for stability, power and heat issues. But it should... moreI think it's still possible to reach 3.30gHz, there's definitely a solution to it like their own cooling in their smartphones. Plus, the manufacturing process which will definitely help in reducing the heat. As long as it doesn't go as bad as the SNAPDRAGON 810 it should be good to go
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Kiyasuriin, 11 Jul 2018I am very realistic. Up until note 4 Samsung made a more powerful variant of the S of the same... moreYes, but some if not all of those exynos were used in other smartphones besides the note, so the inversion was justified.
But right now, the manufacturing cost are just too high to make variants, specially when your chip needs more silicon than other options.
Apple can afford that because they sell a lot of phones with the same chip. And probably dont care upping the prices a bit for the consumer...
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AnonD-594740, 11 Jul 2018Cmon be realistic.
Samsung will not make a special chip just to sell a few million units of... moreI am very realistic. Up until note 4 Samsung made a more powerful variant of the S of the same year and higher specced too. Here are some examples:
The S2 had an Exynos 4211, that was a dual core A9 1.2 GHz, had 1 GB of ram, and the resolution was 480x800
The first note had a stronger Exynos 4212, that one was a 1.4 GHz A9 dual. Kept the 1 GB ram but added a 32 GB option, the resolution was upped to 1280x800 and had a better camera too (though same resolution)
Onwards: S3
The S3 used a HD display, Quad core A9 1.4 GHz, and had either 1/2 GB of ram (depending if Plus or not)
The N7100, known as Note 2, kept HD. BUT HAD a 1.6 GHz quad core chipset, all variants had 2 GB of ram, and added a 64 GB option
Forward to 2013, the year of S4
The S4 had either the 5410 or the snapdragon 600 (and the 800 in a special edition i9506) 2 GB of RAM. And went FHD
Note 3 kept the FHD but deployed an indefinitely more powerful 5420, or 800 (with no special edition) RAM was bumped to 3 GB, AND a few more feature on the cam.
And the last year was the S5 with note 4 companions
S5 had a snapdragon 801 (with a special edition G906h 805) or an exynos 5422. While the note 4 opted directly to 805 or the beasty 5433 of the time
5, 7, and 8 used the SAME CHIPSET as their S comrades.
S6 and note 5, note 5 just added 1 gig of ram to 4
S7 and Note 7/FE: Doubled the storage from 32 to 64
S8 and note 8: added 2 GB of ram and a dual camera.
If there's a chance for the old tradition of making note stronger than S, I'm all for it!
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Wouldn't a 2x2x4 config be better for heat distribution and a 4x4 though to dissipate heat?
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Manhurt, 11 Jul 2018But it"s has low versality for Battery. That is why there is Mid Cluster.Actually, that's the point of the big.LITTLE cluster: better battery management.
But a MiDdLe one hmmmmm not so sure.
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"Even though MediaTek dropped the triple core configuration setup on its chipsets, Samsung seems keen to give it a try. " If then there is no 3-cluster on Next Mediatek X gen?
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AnonD-594740, 11 Jul 2018I know that... I meant, that the current exynos 9810, its even bigger than everybody else a... moreBut it"s has low versality for Battery. That is why there is Mid Cluster.
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Kiyasuriin, 11 Jul 2018The Apple CPU cores are massive. Just to let you understand HOW large they are, the weaker Mis... moreI know that...
I meant, that the current exynos 9810, its even bigger than everybody else and that implies more silicon, and more silicon means more money at each chip, so the reduction in cores could be a consequence for the bad sales of the S9 and all the money in their chips.
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Why did mediatek drop those configurations if they were good? Why not incorporate it with their P series instead?
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Kiyasuriin, 11 Jul 2018However it's not certain.. I guess we will know in the debute of the note 9. Then I'll toss my... moreCmon be realistic.
Samsung will not make a special chip just to sell a few million units of notes 9.
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AnonD-594740, 11 Jul 2018The 9815 benchmarks scoring 5k were fake. Using just 2 cores instead of 4 like last year ca... moreThe Apple CPU cores are massive. Just to let you understand HOW large they are, the weaker Mistral cores are about the same size as current top dog core A75. Now. Place 4 of Mistral cores in a 2x2 formation, this is the size of the Monsoon core.
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AnonD-594740, 11 Jul 2018Those were fake... Around 4,500 like the current A11 is more reasonable for these meerkat 1... moreHowever it's not certain.. I guess we will know in the debute of the note 9. Then I'll toss my FE (or rather resell it) to get it with 981x (whatever that'll be 8/256
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Walter C. Dornez, 11 Jul 2018I'm sorry, can you explain that statement in Layman's terms?The 9815 benchmarks scoring 5k were fake.
Using just 2 cores instead of 4 like last year can mean that their arch is still way power hungry to rely on the same 4+4 cluster configuration. That, or cost; the current exynos uses a lot of space for those 4 cores.
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Anonymous, 11 Jul 2018And what is M4, if those high performance are A75 (76)? Also a high performance chip?
Im no... morePremium performance
lolz
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AnonD-594740, 11 Jul 2018Those were fake... Around 4,500 like the current A11 is more reasonable for these meerkat 1... moreI'm sorry, can you explain that statement in Layman's terms?
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Kiyasuriin, 11 Jul 2018Hm~ That's really interesting. If the exynos 9815 can achieve 5k in a single core. I think the... moreThose were fake...
Around 4,500 like the current A11 is more reasonable for these meerkat 1.5 cores, and probably will throttle a lot given that they had decided to use just 2 of them.
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AnonD-708551, 11 Jul 2018M4 will. For the highest bench mark score as possible. In normal and intensive usage just swap... moreI don't think one would put cores just for benchmark usage only!
Maybe they will fire up when tasks are cpu intensive.
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H-1, 11 Jul 2018I don't think it will go beyond 3000 MHz, for stability, power and heat issues. But it should... moreM4 will. For the highest bench mark score as possible. In normal and intensive usage just swap A76 in and can already run all apps at full potential. A55 is for standby and light processing apps though.
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I don't think it will go beyond 3000 MHz, for stability, power and heat issues.
But it should deliver quite the performance.
Samsung is really bold for incorporating unmodified ARM cores, as if they are admitting their M4 limitations and offering a solution right away.
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