One thing that u won't get on kirin 970. 10bit hdr display.
Just play pubg then compare the grass the sky and the other.
Premium display in midrange phone.
Then it's up to you.
kj, 16 Jul 2018name a phone with kirin 970 with $300 price tag.honor play
Is there any site where i can find these info? Because as far as i knew the cores, raw speed and cache setup wasnt disclosed by snapdragon. Thanks
Kangal, 22 Jul 2018You're just beating around the bush. Not adding anything concrete to the conversation, and try... morethat's the kind of answer I needed. you've proven your knowledge. sorry if I came a bit doubtful about your claim though.
Fulljack, 21 Jul 2018the only thing I know about Kirin 970 GPU's are that, as Huawei or HiSilicon never disclose mu... moreYou're just beating around the bush. Not adding anything concrete to the conversation, and trying to make yourself look better by berating others.
The Adreno 630 has 128 ALU cores for calculating the graphical signal which is then rendered by the shader core. There are two physical processor cores, totalling 256 ALU cores. The graphics processor does not use the device's LPDDR4 RAM exclusively, as it has its own 1024KB dedicated cache (very fast, volatile, and very expensive). The gpu (or as Qualcomm calls it the Visual Processing Unit) is rated for ~15.4GT/s texture rendering and roughly ~748 G/Flops performance. Though that is at the the maximum 710MHz frequency. It is software-capped at 710MHz, but it can be unlocked via a custom kernel (and/or driver), and it is reasonable to push it close to 900MHz for above 1TFLOP performance which won't drain battery as much as you would expect but it would generate too much heat for a phone (but reasonable for a tablet). The device usually sits around the low 100-150MHz range during regular use, and when playing a visually intensive game (eg Shadowngun Legends) it usually sits around ~500MHz.
That's more information than you could produce.
Kangal, 21 Jul 2018So you openly admit you know less than I...the only thing I know about Kirin 970 GPU's are that, as Huawei or HiSilicon never disclose much of their iGPU (at least in English documentation). But, I never claim I do not know how many iGPU cores Adreno 630 has, I do actually, with evidence. I did not tell you because it's my main question, which you didn't answer just yet. For someone from this industry, you do knows a lot /s
Kangal, 20 Jul 2018Your turn... tell me the complete specs of the Adreno 630 and the Kirin 970's SoC/GPU.Kirin 970 uses Mali G72 on 12 core setup clocked at 746MHz and 850MHz on boost.
Adreno 630 gpu cores? well, it was never undisclosed. but, if you take a look t the floorplan, you'll know how much it is.
Fulljack, 19 Jul 2018textbook answer, but you didn't answer one of my question. how many cores does Adreno 630 iGPU... moreYour turn... tell me the complete specs of the Adreno 630 and the Kirin 970's SoC/GPU.
Anonymous, 16 Jul 2018Because not everyone wants a huawei phone. Is that simpleRight why would I get a more powerful phone with one of the best mobile cameras for less price , Id rather get tricked by business and pay more for a crappy phone just because it has a recognized brand(LG, Samsung) on it :D
Kangal, 18 Jul 2018Fulljack... Qualcomm offers different pricing to different OEMs depending on their reputati... moretextbook answer, but you didn't answer one of my question. how many cores does Adreno 630 iGPU has? Hint: It's less than Kirin 970's iGPU
Fulljack, 16 Jul 2018their chip prices are unknown to the consumer. even OEMs won't disclose it in their financial ... moreFulljack...
Qualcomm offers different pricing to different OEMs depending on their reputation and order size. However, currently the QSD 845 is retailing for as low as USD $36 and as high as a USD $52.
And the Adreno 630 has 710MHz clockspeed, 256 ALU cores, 1024KB dedicated cache, with ~15.4GT/s texture rendering and roughly 748 G/Flops performance.
Have a good day, sir!
It'd be cool if you guys did a benchmark comparison between these top-midrangers and older, still purchasable flagships. When I looked at the old benchmarks, it is plenty more powerful than the Galaxy S7 that most people would take instead because of it's top-tier (dated) flagship processor.
wert, 16 Jul 2018The sd710 isn't even close to the sd820 the sd710 is a midrange and it belongs as it should th... moreAs much as you want to ignore the reality bro, it's okay.
If we imply the same logic, then this SoC also is nowhere near as good as the SD800.
You know, 800>710, right??
Theses test proven Snap 710 is good enough and numbers are for economic orientated people and lectors of mathemathic rest is pure speculation.
Kangal, 16 Jul 2018On the contrary, I am quite formidable in the industry.
I don't think your reading comprehe... moretheir chip prices are unknown to the consumer. even OEMs won't disclose it in their financial report. we could only assume the price, but who knows how much do they charge for, as it was indicated that each OEMs got different pricing from Qualcomm.
alright tell me then, do you know how much does iGPU cores does Adreno 630 has? if you knew, then you should know why Qualcomm don't use arm's nomenclature, as it has different scalability.
makes me question what kind of position do you hold in that "industry". I do understand your point, but you should know that the masses doesn't care much about the inside of a smartphone
The sd710 isn't even close to the sd820 the sd710 is a midrange and it belongs as it should the sd8xx are high end
Fulljack, 16 Jul 2018you don't know a thing about Adreno GPUs and how Qualcomm charge OEMs on it's SoC, aren't you?On the contrary, I am quite formidable in the industry.
I don't think your reading comprehension is that well, I was complaining about how Qualcomm obfuscates their products and mixes the pricing. The list I put was just an example, hence why I used the words "something LIKE this".
And I know Qualcomm doesn't use ARM's Trondheim GPUs, they use (a new variant) of AMD's old Radeon Mobile GPU's. The example of the "500MHz GPU MP4" was more of a build up on the G72-platform... however, I only used that as an example to make my point. I for one think the Adreno GPU's are great... they're much smaller and more efficient than the competitors' solutions.