eddlang, 19 Jul 2018No one is talking about quality here. Volvo being owned by chinese is a publicly known fact bu... moreTheir own CEO Seiche said that DMJ Asia Investment, who invested big money in HDM recently represents Asian (read: Chinese) investors.
Samsung is the best, 19 Jul 2018'Foxconn does not licence anything - i agree. They only manufacture the phone - also, agree. T... moreDo you have any proof that foxconn is paying HMD to cover their r&d costs?
Even if foxconn does pay hmd's r&d, which I've seen no evidence of, that still does not mean ownership. You do get that, right?
As for where hmd's money came from, it's called "investment" and can be done by anyone from all around the world, not just Chinese, and it would still have nothing to do with ownership.
Samsung is the best, 19 Jul 2018True, not only Apple iPhone, but 95% of other OEMs smartphones is made in some of Foxconn fact... moreYou need to research a lot , Just because HMD is a Startup they don't need foxconn to invest for them.
First of all Foxconn is not a Investment company , There are a lot of companies whose main business is investing in startups like Berkshire Hathaway , AXA , Softbank Etc.
Secondly there are banks that lend loans and bonds to startups .
Then there are Start-up Launch Platforms , Angel Networks , Crowdfunding , Incubators & Accelerators , Private Equity Firms , Private Investors and Billionaires etc etc.
The Lead investors in HMD are Jean-Francois Baril and Dominique Pitteloud Based In Switzerland.
eddlang, 19 Jul 2018No, you got it wrong. Foxconn does not licence anything. They only manufacture the phones. The... more'Foxconn does not licence anything - i agree. They only manufacture the phone - also, agree. The patents are licenced to HMD only and they are the ones who design and engineer the phones - agree. The "Nokia" phone brand is licenced to HMD, not foxconn - agree.'
But you didn't understand those:
"Foxconn does not own anything related to current Nokia and HMD": To Nokia nop, to HMD, well they paying 'R&D of HMD so how is that not related. Or you think that HMD made milions of euros with phones.. like this X5, or any before this freat top notch phone with Mediatek inside?..
Samsung is the best, 19 Jul 2018True, not only Apple iPhone, but 95% of other OEMs smartphones is made in some of Foxconn fact... moreNo, you got it wrong. Foxconn does not licence anything. They only manufacture the phones. The patents are licenced from Nokia to HMD only and they are the ones who design and engineer the phones. Foxconn does not own or license anything related to current Nokia and HMD. The "Nokia" phone brand is licenced to HMD, not foxconn.
Besides, foxconn isn't even Chinese, but Taiwanese.
Samsung is the best, 19 Jul 2018Hey Xiaomi R&D :)...
You need to be grateful for using same word with 3-th and 4-th big... moreJunk sells better than gold , That Does not mean anything , LMAO , No's Don't justify the Quality of the product.
Its like McDonald's Sells more burgers than a Fine Dining Cafe , its obvious Cheap stuff sells , Its not like everyone is worried about quality and longevity.
Merwyn Fernandes, 19 Jul 2018Seriously Lol , Your comparing the design with Xiaomi and Huawei both companies reputed for co... moreHey Xiaomi R&D :)...
You need to be grateful for using same word with 3-th and 4-th bigest OEMs in the world with HMD (probably not in top 20 with 8 mil smartphones sold in 2017)..
If, and when that happend and HMD become at least in top 10 world wide, then you can write something. Is not my fault for your nonsenses. Just buy better phone, it's time. Samsung S9 + is still good phone.
eddlang, 19 Jul 2018... and foxconn makes all the iphones. Apple is definitely chinese then.True, not only Apple iPhone, but 95% of other OEMs smartphones is made in some of Foxconn factory (Taiwan, China, India etc).. BUT.. Foxconn only pays to HMD Global (Finland) to licencing and using Nokia (Microsoft) Nokia patents for those new age Nokias. I hope that you understand better now. Like i wrote, HMD is startup company (only 500 emp), some of them are from old Nokia there, but thats it. I just hope that those new Nokias, flagship Nokias will have at least same photo camera quality like some of Lumias from the past. Then, maybe, but this X5, Mediatek? No thanks. At least X6 have SD636 for similar price..
Samsung is the best, 19 Jul 2018Are you sure?
Do you know that HMD Global Oy have 500 employees? That they have one person (o... moreThere is no factual evidence to whatever you said , People call HMD Chinese just cause they are salty about their pricing.
Their Agenda is to prove Nokia Chinese cause they want to buy Nokia Phones at Xiaomi Pricing ,They don't understand the Cost of Premium Build and Materials , They don't understand the Cost of Long term Software support and Updates , Finally they don't understand the concept of ODM / Contract Manufacturing.
Foxconn isn't a charity that they will pump money into a Brand without any public announcement or claim of ownership they are a business after all.
Until and unless there is Factual proof that Foxconn owns or is financing major part of HMDs operation , spreading fake news makes no sense.
Samsung is the best, 19 Jul 2018Are you sure? Do you know that HMD Global Oy have 500 employees? That they have one person (o... more... and foxconn makes all the iphones. Apple is definitely chinese then.
Samsung is the best, 19 Jul 2018Well design is copy paste from Chinese OEM, like Xiaomi (Redmi 6 Pro), like Xiaomi MI 8 SE... ... moreSeriously Lol , Your comparing the design with Xiaomi and Huawei both companies reputed for counterfeiting Apple.
Back of the phone is classic Nokia [HMD] , Front [Notch] is not a copy or an inspiration , It's just a market trend for 2017-18 , Due to the lack of Technology and the Expense of creating Full Screen phones the notch is being used as a substitute to reduce Bezels.
In future we won't have any difference in the front facia of the phone once all brands adopt bezeless Screens , The only difference would be at to back and the Curvature of the screen.
Samsung is the best, 19 Jul 2018Well design is copy paste from Chinese OEM, like Xiaomi (Redmi 6 Pro), like Xiaomi MI 8 SE... ... moreThe notch design was NOT an apple invention. Did you know Sharp was among the first, if not the first maker that made a notched phone? It was NOT the iphone.
Yes, x5 and x6 look like other Chinese phones but that's just two models among many. The other Nokia models have very little in common with Lumia phones. They are mostly made of metal and their design language is quite unique. Have you even looked closely at 7 plus and 6.1?
Holy.... a HD+ screen for P60 is too little, it should have FHD+ to push P60 limits.
eddlang, 19 Jul 2018What are you talking about?! The discussion here was about design, not camera quality.Well design is copy paste from Chinese OEM, like Xiaomi (Redmi 6 Pro), like Xiaomi MI 8 SE... Like at least, 50 Huawei, and Honor phones with notch and back glass from 2018 and in that price segment, so nothing new here. Other Nokia phones, use design from Lumias, or older Nokias.. But All of those OEM with that models of smartphones comes to idea from iPhone 10, just it's popular brend world wide (if you look at sales, iPhone is still number one).