Iphone 9 64GB = $900
Htc U12+ 128GB = $849 ( in USA)
Iphone 9 is expected to have 6.1" ( LCD, 300ppi), about 2700mAh, 3GB ram, 64/256GB , ip67, single rear camera
Tommy, 08 Sep 2018Can I give suggestion to HTC? 1. Step down lady chairman/CEO 2. Promote back to Peter and p... moreI think it might be too late, they might not have enough funds. They are bringing back the jack most probably, but front facing speakers, updated UX, and in general great pricing can save them
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2018P20 Pro has the best camera for lowlight shots and zoom.
The P20 Pro has the better battery l... moreNote 9 has better endurance, with QHD.
Moto G6+ records better videos than P20 Pro.
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2018800 dolars for P20 Pro. Old cpu, no 4K EIS, awful front cam, no bluetooth 5, notch, low b... moreP20 Pro has the best camera for lowlight shots and zoom.
The P20 Pro has the better battery life and also better software.
Scram, 08 Sep 2018Except that most people don't know this. The U11 was priced competitively last year, still did... morePeople complain that LG, Samsung and Asus are very slow with updates.
Vivo and Oppo are much worse. Both have phones that cost more than US$550 that use SD660, Micro USB and lack NFC.
BrendonF, 08 Sep 2018The problem is that the htc is 50% more expensive than the op6 and it has some stifling drawba... moreU12 Life is cheaper than Zenfone 5, Moto Z3 Play, XA2 Ultra or A8.
Htc is not located in China, where many people work 16h daily, have lower salary compared to USA/Taiwan/Japan/South Korea, tons of patents are broken..
Htc has R/D secton, most of chinese brands do not
Renato Oliveira, 08 Sep 2018At least Huawei prices their phones with old SoC accordingly.800 dolars for P20 Pro. Old cpu, no 4K EIS, awful front cam, no bluetooth 5, notch, low bitrate videos.
S8+, U11, XZ Premium cost less than 550 dolars too.
Light years better than Honor 10, Honor Play
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2018Stop joking.
U12+ has HDR10 screen , OP6 does not
U12+ has stereo speakers, op6 does not ... moreExcept that most people don't know this. The U11 was priced competitively last year, still didn't get enough love.
HTC and Sony need to smell the coffee and realize they're no longer at the level of Apple and Samsung. Sure they are in terms of expertise, but in marketing and keeping consumers, they've lost it.
Now is the time to adopt the Xiaomi, Oppo, and Huawei model. Target the midrange and entry-level stratas aggressively. Nokia is doing the exact same thing and they aren't hemorrhaging. The market for flagships is thinning as there's now the affordable flagship segment and upper mid range segment that have very decent alternatives for many people who in times past would only have considered high-end flagships.
They can start a sub-brand if they have to, to separate their premium line from the new bottom-of-the-barrel targeting. They need more people to remember HTC still produces amazing phones. They need to rebuild their user base.
Can I give suggestion to HTC?
1. Step down lady chairman/CEO
2. Promote back to Peter and prove as the dawn of HTC Desire /M7/M8
3. Terminate and hire better market and design team
4. Learn to copy good things. Not a crap removing 3.5mm
5. Don't lie to consumer and loyal customer. E.g. U ultra is flat ship and then later come out another flagship in a year.
6. Keep your promise, for instance. U AI learning is sky falling but later not a single drop of rain
7. Do better research and see you can do it or not. No empty promise.
8. Make a best features flatship phones and support/update regularly
9. Learn how oppo/huawei are innovative and their strategy.
10. Quit making LCD and invent better LED with less buzzle.
11. ARVR, do you think you can be best, don't give stupid reason. Their are better device out there with better Look and functionality. How many VR you can sell then phone? Don't you think Samsung will invent much better VR/AR than you and take over market like they did in hand phone.
12. If you have not enough time for 2019. Prepare best for early 2020 around march.
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2018LMAO... Ingress protection is not just against water, but dust too. I hope you know that d... moreThe problem is that the htc is 50% more expensive than the op6 and it has some stifling drawbacks like horrible battery life and a screen that isn't very bright. And the crazy amount of money htc demands for the u12 plus means sensible people have htc a wide berth and chose something else instead. The htc u12 life is a more sensible launch but still priced too high. I feel another year or two and htc will be forced to shut their mobile business. They just seem to be out of touch with what customers want in a phone.
This is expect. A company which was supposed to put up super economical flagship is putting up 100,000+ devices here (More expensive than Huawei P20 Pro). This is bound to happen. Wonder they also got Elop somewhere in the ranks.
Renato Oliveira, 08 Sep 2018I never said their products are bad, I said they're way over priced. Cost / benefit ratio doe... moreThe game is all about supply and demand. When the demand is zero the obvious thing to do is reduce the prices but htc didn't and hence the decline.
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2018Better camera, better audio and faster than s9+.
Just need to improve screen and battery end... moreI never said their products are bad, I said they're way over priced.
Cost / benefit ratio doesn't favor HTC, and it has been so for several years now.
To improve it they should reduce the price of their products, add more bells and whistles without raising the price, and ideally both, at least until they aren't in the red anymore.
Marcio, 08 Sep 2018Stop joking.
U12+ has HDR10 screen , OP6 does not
U12+ has stereo speakers, op6 does not ... moreLMAO...
Ingress protection is not just against water, but dust too. I hope you know that dust can damage electronics from inside and cause overheating. It can also avoid accident in case you drop your phone into water. They do not say you should dive with your phone. Certification costs money too, it is not just hardware cost.
HDR10 will provide better images, no matter type of screen. There are good oled and bad oled, good lcd and bad lcd.
Last year OP was caught sending data to China. They said it was not supposed to happen to the Oxygen version just Hydrogen.
OP was caught cheating benchmarks , cpu throttle did not happen only during benchmarks. But it was there during games or 4K videos.
Check the samples of GSMA reviews. Even Mi8 take better shots than OP6. U12+ does much better than Note 9. Also U12+ has camera with optical zoom while the secondary of OP6 is useless. Videos of lower bitrate than u12 with worse audio recording.
I doubt 6T will be 9.0 out of box. Then in november u12 will have it.
Htc was the first to bring many stuff to mobile. One Plus does not do new stuff. Just another iPhone wannabe..
6T will be just another waterdrop notched phone that cares nore about amount of ram than the rest..
Insert 8GB/256GB + SD845 inside Galaxy A6+ then it will be better than op6.
Maybe a strategic retreat is in order. Loss^loss is no good. Center back on the essentials: your doomed VR market has to go. Take back what made your mobile phones iconic. The HTC One, the M8.. inovative UI. Ultra quality build. High mods and custom ROM potential. Good midrange phones. HEADPHONE JACK!!!