dude111, 16 Sep 2018You REALLY think that the successor of the low power cortex A53, estimated by ARM itself to be... moreYour doubt is founded in reason. This isn't the first time this person has exposed themselves as a liar by making unusually tall claims, and then using backing statements displaying complete ignorance of the very basics.
dude111, 16 Sep 2018Ok, where did you got those numbers?
Cause the MSM8926, a quad core A7 @ 1.2Ghz scores 445.... moreRecalling. I am not entirely sure it was 1.2 or 2. ^^;
Plus. I am working more in the software side of CPUs, not hardware. I may mistake.
Kiyasuriin, 16 Sep 2018I do work on such a place. And indeed the A55 is more powerful than A53.
Just remember that A... moreOk, where did you got those numbers?
Cause the MSM8926, a quad core A7 @ 1.2Ghz scores 445.
And the MSM8916, a quad core A53 @1.2Ghz scores 520.
Anonymous, 16 Sep 20182.0 GHz Cortex-A53 scores around 850 points in Geekbench. Cortex-A55 according to ARM themselv... moreHm... Weird....
I do know though that fully clocked M3 squeezes 3700 points
2.3 GHz M3 yields 2800 and 1.9 GHz about 2300...
It's a mystery... o.o
dude111, 16 Sep 2018You REALLY think that the successor of the low power cortex A53, estimated by ARM itself to be... moreI do work on such a place. And indeed the A55 is more powerful than A53.
Just remember that A7 at 2GHz scores about 420, while A53@2 GHz is about 900 or so, WHY HERE you are not skeptical?
Kiyasuriin, 16 Sep 2018Just run geekbench. On an exynos9810 device while in power saving mode. This process forces th... moreYou REALLY think that the successor of the low power cortex A53, estimated by ARM itself to be 20% better clock by clock at the same ISO, is going to do a massive jump from 870 points @2GHz on geekbench to over 1800 at even lower clocks?
I though you worked on something related to this stuff, now i doubt it.
Kiyasuriin, 16 Sep 2018Just run geekbench. On an exynos9810 device while in power saving mode. This process forces th... more2.0 GHz Cortex-A53 scores around 850 points in Geekbench. Cortex-A55 according to ARM themselves should score 20% more in Geekbench 4 i.e 1020 points @ 2.0 GHz.
The last Oracle, 13 Sep 2018DESPITE Apple's claims of MUCH FASTER processing in almost all areas, the actual test numbers ... moreAnd what test do you mean by that? I've seen the whole battery of notebookcheck's tests(one of the most comprehensive on the net) and traditionally Apple devices only fall behind somewhat on GPU, but if they stick to Metal and the relatively low-res screen on screen numbers are still good.
dude111, 15 Sep 2018"1.8GHz A55 GB4 Score: 1820"
In what universe?
It would surprise me if a 2Ghz A55 even r... moreJust run geekbench. On an exynos9810 device while in power saving mode. This process forces the cores to swap places in priority: A55 become Main and M3 either dormant or become second.
If not for that: explain how a friend of mine scored 1820 points on his exynos S9+ while retaining multi of 8800?!
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2018Because starting snapdragon 835/kirin 970 series, android smartphone are proven to be faster o... more"Apple is losing here even with higher benchmark score."
...the best comment. ever. nothing to say already...GG.
I...the amount of denial with you android fanboys is just...breathtaking.. *slow clap*
Kiyasuriin, 14 Sep 2018Eheh~ ^^;
Well... It does interest me if apple indeed gone three clusters. Which core they'd ... more"1.8GHz A55 GB4 Score: 1820"
In what universe?
It would surprise me if a 2Ghz A55 even reach 1000 points.
Texpert, 13 Sep 2018Huawei didn't call it a dual core npu ,it called it dual npu , there's a difference. Plus it h... morelol no
It was around 1.9 TOPS vs 0.6 on the A11.
Now its 3.8 vs 5
Although it was never discussed if both were measured at the same bit precision.
NoahG, 14 Sep 2018Nop, this what it says
Introducing the Kirin 980, the world's first 7nm process mobile phone ... moreYou should read more below it
"Kirin 980 can quickly adapt to AI scenes such as face recognition, object recognition, object detection, image segmentation and intelligent translation with the power of a DUAL-CORE NPU achieving 4500 images per minute which is an improved 120% recognition speed."
CptPower, 14 Sep 2018Grats fastest phone currentlz on the planet with worst battery life worst charger no SD Card s... moreAren't you the guy who keeps saying "jack is useless" ? Ah, the double standards.
ClearTune, 13 Sep 2018In Huawei's official site, it is a dual-core NPU. Nop, this what it says
Introducing the Kirin 980, the world's first 7nm process mobile phone SoC chipset, the worldÂ’s first cortex-A76 architecture chipset, the worldÂ’s first DUAL NPU DESIGN , and the worldÂ’s first chipset to support LTE Cat.21. The Kirin 980 combines multiple technological innovations and leads the AI trend to provide users with impressive mobile performance and to create a more convenient and intelligent life.
Shanti Dope, 14 Sep 2018Better 4-4 clusters
But I believe that we must have 3-cluster chipsets now, just like the one... moreEheh~ ^^;
Well... It does interest me if apple indeed gone three clusters. Which core they'd use for extreme power saving.
As for K980~
Imo 2xA76@2.9+2xA55@2.2+4xA35@1.8 would be better. As A57 is first gen "BIG" core. And interestingly preforms less than the "Little" Core A55.
2.1 GHz A57 Geekbench4 Single core: 1430
1.8GHz A55 GB4 Score: 1820
So imagine what'll happen if we scale things up by a few more megahertzs?
Grats fastest phone currentlz on the planet with worst battery life worst charger no SD Card slot No Jack no proper Dual Sim support and the "cheapest 850 eur model comes with LCD"
and a NOTCH.
Kangal, 13 Sep 2018I think Apple decided to go for more battery life, than more performance with the TSMC 7nm pro... moreYep, such a good approach IMO.
A11 Bionic was also prone to thermal throttling, so I'm glad that Apple acknowledges this concern.
But my suggestion is for them to add another set of clusters for true power-saving actions.
2 high performance cores + 2 average performance cores + 4 low performance cores would be ideal here.
MediaTek somehow was successful with this in their Helio X30, but it wasn't highly used enough to become a standard.
Glad that Huawei tried it, hoping for others to follow suit.
Kiyasuriin, 13 Sep 20184/4? Or 3/5? And if A12 is octa, the A12X is Deca?
Better 4-4 clusters
But I believe that we must have 3-cluster chipsets now, just like the one on the Kirin 980.
For a flagship, it could be like a 2xCortex A76@2.5GHz + 2xCortex A57@2.0GHz + 4xCortex A35@1.8GHz
This way, we can achieve better battery life at least, assuming that this will be based on the new 7nm process.
Eyes shattering numbers, there is zero chance for any upcoming chipset next year at least first Half, to come close to those numbers. A12 is beast, but considering anything else, this company is crooks and should be avoided as plague, that prices for iPhones and they closed eco system is laughable, not even fast charger included in a package, disgraceful for consumer point of view