German court grants Motorola formal injunction against Apple Comments
- Anonymous
- LYP
bix, 05 Nov 2011it might be surprising for someone, but Microsoft makes more money on Android then Windows Pho... moreOMG... Yeah Steve was great, but he did not produce the Technology... He was the CEO of Apple INC and had other stuff to do, that chat the whole time with his engineers, who do the actual innovation, Steve just presented it, he gave it a Face, nothing more. In the past Steve did really big stuff on his own, when Apple was a smaller company, but that most Applefans dont know, cuz they just no iPhone and iPad, like some Zombie.
- Luka
- 3LT
Tim, 06 Nov 2011It frustrates the hell out of me, that Apple can win lawsuites based on "look and feel&qu... moreExactly, because look and feel are a product of your own designers. Motorola and Samsung, and Nokia for that matter, opted to include their property into an industry standard, which means that you give up some of your patent rights, such as refusal to license, or the ability to dictate prices on such patents.
- Anonymous
- LYP
btc5472, 05 Nov 2011U really havent noticed? apple has sued samsung and HTC first. Apple is still the second bigge... moreYeah, and what will apple do, if LG then stops at the next point where it is possible to produce their Retina Display? Dont think, that Samsung will take that over afterwards... And if it is not Sony, Sammy or LG, then you can be sure, Apple is over.
- Anonymous
- LYP
Mike, 05 Nov 2011isn't usually the one that sells most devices and that has the most performant devices that wo... moreNO, definetly not... So then you would also say, that Microsoft Windows is the best OS for PCs and Notebooks.
- Anonymous
- LYP
kiloh3rtz, 05 Nov 2011This is really sick what is happening every1 suewing every1 for my button is green yours is al... moreIn Car industry they sue each other for stealing good technologies, not for the basic concept of a car, like Apple does with its Tablets.
Inventions need patens, nobody can just take and thats ok. I wouldnt be happy, if i made a great invention and a week later, some big company with big factories can produce the same thing for a third of the price and whos then the idiot? The inventor. Inventions need a lot of time and you have normally to be also smart enough, but who actually wants to invent anything, if it is then not his own and everybody uses your technology acting like they invented it and you are nothing anymore after that... who wants that? Only people who are not smart enough for inventing somrething themselves.
- Anonymous
- LYP
no name, 05 Nov 2011hahaha i m laughing on all this.apple is the pioneer and everybody copying apple and bcoz of ... moreApple has Siri... now I definetly know, that you never held an other phone in your hand and are completely blinded. You know that Apple was like the last one to bring out some voice to text and voice to action function to their phone... But you just did, what EVERY STUPID iFan does... Apple brings new stuff to the iPhone, others could do for much much longer already, but iFans dont know that and then claim its an Apple innovation, like Facetime LOL!
Multitouch... big innovation... like noone would have created something like this on Touchscreens over some time.
But it still doesnt all matter, cuz actually Apple wouldve never become that big, if they didnt steal those GSM patents and thats reality. No GSM = no cell phone function... Just like Apple is suing everyone, they cannot expect other just to sit around.
- Anonymous
- LYP
Anonymous, 05 Nov 2011Apparently, Apple has opted to allow Motorola Mobility to win a default judgment in a German p... moreIt doesnt matter. If the device is banned, than it cannot sell anymore here. Apple banned Sammy Tablet here in Germany and Samsung doesnt sell their devices by themselves here, too. You dont get the fact, that a third party to have the phone and sell it, Apple first needs to sell it to the third party and there we have the problem. The German "Zoll" is not being to polite, if you try to get them from an other country and sell them here, too. So its a dead end, Applefans need to stop being soooooooooooooooooooo blinded.
- AnonD-977
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AnonD-12487, 06 Nov 2011mmmm blinded by your appleaddiction you are. Nokia makes a lot of money, with or without apple... moreSo which phones have Bluetooth 4.0?
iPhone 4S...
...
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...that's all.
Just like the iPhone 4 introducing the gyroscope, leading.
- Anonymous
- LYP
AnonD-977, 06 Nov 2011Apple has not sued anyone over FRAND patents which are required as part of GSM standards, the ... moreNo, actually Apple was first in non competitive behaviour. Second of all, dont tell around that nonsense you just said, because Apple patented stuff, which are not as easy to work around, look at the Tablet section, where they actually want to be the only one... What is a Tablet? Basically a big screen with Smartphone Hardware. OK, but did Apple do? They sued Samsung for bringin out an device, which had rounded Corners (really really stupid, but thats not really that important), but they basically sued their way to the right of being the only one who can actually produce them thin and rectangular.
So tell me, who will buy a thick, smallscreen, Round or Triangular shaped Tablet? Nobody! Thats not in any way better or more nice than actually suing them for GSM patents, which are actually A TECHNOLOGY with REAL INNOVATION; which have cost way more money to the company to research and produce, than a designer who brings out a rectangular rounded corner tablet and/or phone!
People dont know what patents are for, to protect intellectual property. Rectangular s
- Nonikhanna
- HsE
no name, 05 Nov 2011hahaha i m laughing on all this.apple is the pioneer and everybody copying apple and bcoz of ... moreApple Pioneer????? where did that come from. they Werent even in the telephone business until 5 years ago. When motorola Razr was out Apple were just finding their feet. In the 90's Nokia and Sony-Ericsson were the phones used when Microsoft bailed out apple out and invested in them.
And if you think Apple is Innovating, then consider this. They have around 10 products in the market(not counting laptops). These include iTouch, iPhone, iPad, and their multiple versions. ALL OF THESE have the same UI. and since they ONLY offer that as a way to unlock your device.... its not really innovative is it. coming up with 1 great Idea is luck. coming up with multiple great Ideas is what I call contributing. Also the reason why we have Apps in our store using the slide unlock is because we dont like to be TIED DOWN by restrictions the products company enforces on us. WP7 and iOS are so rigid you cant do anything with them. *cough* bluetooth file transfer*cough* The illusion/hype that apple creates around its products is starting to wear off. people are getting smarter and know what is good in a phone. The iphone was just a bridge, its time for the others to lead.
- Anonymous
- CRm
It' time for me to make a new game across all devices, from Android, iOS, WP7, meego, bada, blackberry to name some.. and it will be called......... Wait for it........... Drum roll..........
Patent War: Attack of the Phones..
- Anonymous
- CRm
pH1, 05 Nov 2011FINALLY... hello moto to the rescue. Apple deserves this and a lot more. Im not saying Apple ... moreWhoa! I couldn't agree more!
- AnonD-13315
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This is certainly something that baffles me greatly, as I believe that if the family of Alexander Graham Bell was to weigh in, they would probably be in everyone's face. In the past, there was a World standards in the Telecommunication Industry, and all had to follow it to be accepted , and this was used by most of the world and set as the operating standards for all brands. What has happened today ? Does the rectangular look become someones intellectual property ? Apple I believe is the culprit here, and as an Apple fan, I am bitterly disappointed with them. They of all people should know that you cannot stop innovation. Good on you Motorola.
- AnonD-12487
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apple 'o' holic, 05 Nov 2011typical everyone has to sue apple. then thats only way every other company will make any money... moremmmm blinded by your appleaddiction you are. Nokia makes a lot of money, with or without apple. americans are the only ones blinded to Nokia. Samsung makes more money than apple now. but i guess your apple vision cannot let your see anything further than itunes. apple had a chance on iphone 4s to come up with something new but decided to sell the same device with a little upgrade. now when iphone 5 comes up. remember this. SAMSUNG and NOKIA will be already selling better hardware than iphone 5 but i guess that doesnt matter for the appleholic they just buy whatever has an apple in it. if they get come up with an iMidget they would buy that too.
- AnonD-977
- PBc
[deleted post]Apple has not sued anyone over FRAND patents which are required as part of GSM standards, the patents Apple has sued over relate to their innovations which other companies can work around to produce functional phones.
If the companies Apple has bought their radio chips off (Qualcomm, Broadcom) paid to license the patent then under the terms of FRAND it is exhausted, Motorola can't double dip.
Samsung using FRAND patents opened the way for the EU to launch an enquiry into anti-competitive behaviour.
Apple has licensed Nokia's FRAND patents.
- Luka
- 3LT
The problem with a great deal of Motorola's patents is that they are a part of various standards. Can't really look into this patents, i don't care for it that much, but it could be that it has to be used in order to function as a device that complies to a standard.
- Tim
- iiH
It frustrates the hell out of me, that Apple can win lawsuites based on "look and feel" of a screen with a black border - yet the likes of Motorola and Samsung who use real innovation to develop actual technology struggle/can't have anyhting hold up because 'it's standard...'. So Apple gets a free ride on technology innovation but blocks everyone for basically having a rectangle shape and icons...
- Ross
- X3h
apple 'o' holic, 05 Nov 2011typical everyone has to sue apple. then thats only way every other company will make any money... moreActually Apple tried to sue Google then moved onto Motorolla (one of many manufacturers they went after).
Apple started it, and frankly if they didnt copy other companys patents and claim innovation they wouldn't be in this mess.
How do you explain Apple suing Samsung and banning Galaxy tabs in certain countries?
Apple are the money grubbing aggressors here.
Case and point Nokia vs Apple lawsuit = Apple pay Nokia a lot of money and ongoing licencing fees.
No doubt the same will happen between Motorolla and Apple.
Bottom line, Apple actually tried to sue first, not the other way around, that's not because other manufacturers can't operate with apple in the picture, It's because when people see what the competition actually offer for the same price iPhones simply don't hold their weight.
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