theStick, 05 Oct 2018For a company that is focused on mobile processors it's a bit lame to see them trailing behind... moreIts just a company.
And we all know what a company is after: money. Im sure they make more money using the designs from ARM than invest on custom ones.
Anonymous, 06 Oct 2018There is no doubt that the A12 (and A11) is a much more powerful chip than SD845 when it comes... moreIts because of the animations:
"There’s no way to completely turn animation off in iOS, and while this is just my subjective personal opinion, I found they are quite hampering the true performance of the phone. In workloads that are not interactive, the iPhone XS just blazed through them without any issue or concern."
The Voice of Reason, 05 Oct 2018Qualcomm uses the most atrocious naming scheme in the industry.
Snapdragon 800, 801, 805, 8... moreSD 670 is definitely faster than SD820 and probably SD835 CPU wise.
I agree the naming scheme is weird. IMO the 6xx series is the only one that males sense from Qualcomm. Mid range performance in mid range prices. Very much unlike SD 8xx series (mid range performance in high end prices) espec lately...
Both Kirin and Apple r*** Qualcomm's CPU.
MBenzPete, 05 Oct 2018Well, the 2018 phones have for the most part come and gone. What isn't here has leaked to such... moreAn October OTA update for SM-T820 (Wi-Fi); SM-T825 (3G/LTE) has started rolling out, it depends on your country & carrier for exactly when you'll get it, but it's on its way & will be with you soon :)
Anonymous, 06 Oct 2018There is no doubt that the A12 (and A11) is a much more powerful chip than SD845 when it comes... moreWell if that's what they say then we don't have no other choice than to accept what is technically superior. The A12 is objectively better than the current SD845.
jr7, 05 Oct 2018mmmm sounds wired usually Samsung devices start with SM...It's the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8150 chipset, the SM probably means that it's the Samsung variation.
rizki1, 05 Oct 20185G support?Yes, if the OEM's pair the Snapdragon 8150 SoC with the Snapdragon X50 5G modem.
(You can see this info. if you click on Via (at the footnote of the article).
jr7, 05 Oct 2018mmmm sounds wired usually Samsung devices start with SM...Yeah, but we talking about chipset
Anonymous, 05 Oct 2018Will it beat A11 this time?Yes, Qualcomm's Snapdragon SM8150 is more or less on par with Apple's A12 Bionic and Kirin's 980 chipsets.
At the footnote of GSMA's articles you will see Source & Via links (underlined).
If you clicked on Via,
then you would see this information:
"Thanks to the switch to the 7nm process, Qualcomm Snapdragon 8150 is expected to offer significantly improved benchmark performance when compared to the Snapdragon 845 chipset.
Going by a recently leaked Geekbench listing, the Snapdragon 8150 will be more or less on par with the Kirin 980 and Apple A12 Bionic chipsets.
The Snapdragon 8150 prototype had achieved a single-core score of 3,697 points and a multi-core score of 10,469, points.
Apart from the improved benchmark performance, the upcoming mobile chip is expected to be more efficient as well, leading to battery life improvements.
The first smartphones powered by the 7nm Snapdragon 8150 chipset are expected to be announced in early 2019.
Similar to how the majority of Android flagships released this year run on the Snapdragon 845 chipset, we expect almost all major 2019 flagship Android smartphones to be powered by the Snapdragon 8150 chipset under the hood.".
If I remember correctly performance & efficiency improvements are both ~30% on the SD845.
This is still at prototype stage, so still early days.
Kiyasuriin, 05 Oct 2018Oh really? Then why the Snapdragon845 beats it's counterpart (A11) in real life scenarios?
Be... moreThere is no doubt that the A12 (and A11) is a much more powerful chip than SD845 when it comes to the CPU. Go read Anandtechs in-depth review of the iPhone XS and its A12. They run the current top SoC through the SPEC2006 benchmark:
"The contrast to the best Android SoCs have to offer is extremely stark – both in terms of performance as well as in power efficiency. Apple’s SoCs have better energy efficiency than all recent Android SoCs while having a nearly 2x performance advantage. I wouldn’t be surprised that if we were to normalise for energy used, Apple would have a 3x performance efficiency lead"
But ofcourse there is more to good performance of a phone than a powerful CPU, most daily apps (fb, instagram and so on) are not very CPU intensive.
QCOM is all over the place with its naming conventions, may be it's a new naming scheme for 5G chipsets?
theStick, 05 Oct 2018For a company that is focused on mobile processors it's a bit lame to see them trailing behind... moreWhat you are saying is all relative, you can say Kirin 980 is the same generation as SD 845, because they are both 2018 SoCs. Or you can say the 980 is the same generation as this future SD flagship. But one fact is that the subsequest Kirin/SD chip always beats the latest Kirin/SD of the time.
It's same with Apple chips, you can say A12 and 845 are same generation because they came in the same year, or A11 & 845 are same generation because they came less than 6 months apart.
Again, it's all relative.
Anonymous, 05 Oct 2018To your question: It doesn't, get your facts right. the only thing Androids were better is tha... moreHow is it a performance improvement? all they did was to lessen the animation from IOS11. That was literally what happened with IOS 12!
Walter C. Dornez, 05 Oct 2018Qualcomm has actually confirmed their next chipset is going to be 8150mmmm sounds wired usually Samsung devices start with SM...
Kiyasuriin, 05 Oct 2018Oh really? Then why the Snapdragon845 beats it's counterpart (A11) in real life scenarios? Be... moreTo your question: It doesn't, get your facts right. the only thing Androids were better is that they kept more apps in memory as they had 8GB RAM and the iPhone X with iOS 11 also had not-as-good RAM management. It improved with iOS 12, and now the iPhone X should be faster than any Android out there, because it was never ever beat in the first round, where raw performance mattered, and where the A11 Bionic beat out the SD 845 just because it was faster.
For a company that is focused on mobile processors it's a bit lame to see them trailing behind companies that only produce CPUs to power up their mainstream products. Qualcomm, as the largest manufacturer of mobile CPUs should be a pioneer in the field especially as most phone manufacturers rely on them. Sadly their newest offer, even if it will be on par with the competition, it's way to late ( probably huawei will have 2 releases with their new chips by then)