Anonymous, 14 Oct 2018LOLOLOL OK MY FRIEND you win nah, extra 4-10% for those who flash their Android. "20-30%" ... moreResorting to name calling and insulting other people when you have no other argument just proves how weak your claim is. Bye.
S, 12 Oct 2018True. But the situation isn't any better with a flagship Android, either. In fact, with Androi... more"True. But the situation isn't any better with a flagship Android, either. In fact, with Androids, it seems better to buy a cheap phone every one or two years than buy a flagship that runs out of OS and security support. One could say as long as the hardware is good, your phone will work. But security updates are important, too."
Yes of course security updates are important.
Which Android flagship stops receiving Security Updates after 1 or 2 years?
I don't believe one exists.
On this March 2015 S6, I no longer receive monthly security updates, but I still get them regularly every quarter.
2018-09-04 G920FXXU6ERG1 is rolling out & before that I got the June 2018 G920FXXU6ERF5 software/ security update.
All flagships should receive 5 years of security/ software updates, if they don't support us, then I won't support them.
PeterThePanda, 14 Oct 2018However, you can still flash or install a custom ROM of Android Oreo on many older smartphones... moreLOLOLOL OK MY FRIEND you win nah, extra 4-10% for those who flash their Android.
"20-30%" update rate. Still below Apple's and they can't even flash their phones.
try harder next time loser
Anonymous, 13 Oct 2018Poor battery backup on IOS 12. Why Aplle kilss our Smartphone.Now THAT is an easy one:
They do not care of the customers AT ALL, they ONLY care if they can lure you into buying a new one....
So they hope they could get you to think something like:
"Well this is old, I better consider buying a new one"
But of course what you should think should be more like
"How dare these crooks deteriorate my well functioning device? I will never buy anything from them ever again..."
Anonymous, 13 Oct 2018Android Oreo is at 16.7%. Clearly, Android ignores all their older devices which can no longer... moreHowever, you can still flash or install a custom ROM of Android Oreo on many older smartphones, even from like 2012 or older as long as they have sufficient specs. You can even see that low the recent low end Nokia phones with have specs from like 2010 etc.
Good luck flashing or installing iOS 12 on an iPhone 5 or older.... Oh wait, you can't.
PeterThePanda, 12 Oct 2018*50% of supported devices. Clearly, Apple ignores all their older devices which can no longer ... moreAndroid Oreo is at 16.7%. Clearly, Android ignores all their older devices which can no longer support Oreo.
Anonymous, 12 Oct 2018If you make $5,000+ a month, then getting a $1,000 phone is nothing. But if you are under that... moreI have never read or seen a WRONG, MISLEADING and DISTORTED interpretation of the Pareto Principle (80/20 rule) such as this until now. The Pareto principle states that 80% of the effect is contributed by 20% of the causes; 80% of a country's wealth is owned by 20% of the population; 80% of the problems/symptoms are due to 20% of the probable causes.
The correct interpretation if applied to iPhone or other premium item ownership would be "80% of iPhone sales are contributed by 20% of the buying population". Your Pareto principle interpretation is seriously distorted. You are essentially telling people here, "if you don't earn at least $5,000/month likevme, you can't afford the Apple/iPhone lifestyle and the accompanying costs of ownership of the said gadgets". WHAAAAT? That is such an elitist statement! Lots of iPhone owners here (99% actually) don't earn that much! Their daddy gave it to them. They spent their lifetime savings and/or had to pay monthly amortization through carrier subsidy or their company's iphone plan subsidy just to be able to own them! They will be mad at you! :) How dare you call them not rich and discriminate them when they actually contributed to the bulk of Apple's iPhone sales and were instrumental in making Apple a trillion dollar company! :)
Tom, 12 Oct 2018That's something. Some economists have found that there's a trend between millenials that coul... moreThat's also why you also see people buying a penthouse or a mansion for 5-35 million $.
If you can afford it and you want it, you'll buy it. It doesn't matter that they could be doing some more interesting/useful stuff with that money, as they always have more money coming in that they can use to do the more interesting and/or more useful stuff as well.
They can both eat the cake and have the cake.
Anonymous, 12 Oct 2018If you make $5,000+ a month, then getting a $1,000 phone is nothing. But if you are under that... moreThat's something. Some economists have found that there's a trend between millenials that could be described as "I'm paying it because I can", beyond real need or even the use of what is being paid, and is more often seen in subscriptions (in which category a smartphone is falling, because you never really stop paying for a phone). The effect is that consumption is growing more than individual productivity, leading to the lowest levels of money saving seen in generations, and some of the highest levels of debts.
And all of that is regardless of how much someone earns, because there is evidence that who earns more just spends more, leaving some with a USD60k per year salary with the same economy health as someone who just gets a quarter of that.
Akash, 12 Oct 2018For me, spending $1k on a smartphone is idiotic thing. Sure, you will get the fastest chipset ... moreIf you make $5,000+ a month, then getting a $1,000 phone is nothing. But if you are under that, it makes no sense in owning a phone so expensive.
It's all about the 80-20 rule (Pareto's rule) - the products/device/thing that you're using 80%+ of the time should not cost you more than 20% of your monthly income. Otherwise you won't be able to afford replacing it or repairing it if you break/damage it.
For a simple calculation of what phone you can afford:
- $10,000 a month income = max $2,000 phone
- $5,000 a month = max $1,000 phone
- $3,000 a month = max $600 phone
- $2,000 a month = max $400 phone
- $1,000 a month = max $200 phone
- $750 a month = max $150 phone
- $500 a month = max $100 phone
- under $500 a month = cheapest one you can get
If you go over 20% of your income, it means you don't know what you're doing and you bought something you can't actually afford to own. (own as in including service, repairs, and replacements if needed)
You don't need to own the latest tech. You need to buy what you can actually afford to lose/break.
And there's no point bashing a range of devices saying they're too expensive. They're too expensive for you and others who can't afford them, while they're very much affordable for the ones that have enough income.
BiyoBiyo JunJun, 12 Oct 2018so in other word , u want update or newest os ... do it on ur own even u paid it almost $1k ..... moreFor me, spending $1k on a smartphone is idiotic thing. Sure, you will get the fastest chipset and excellent camera. But for most people, mid-range phones like poco F1, honor play, Nokia 7 plus should suffice for gaming and day to day tasks. If you're really into gaming, then you will probably know to invest that money into gaming PCs or laptops. Smartphone cameras have developed vastly last few years such that most mid range cameras can take pictures as good as flagships in daylight. It's only in night photographs, flagships shine. But it's not like you're going to take night shots daily. But a smartphone camera cannot match DSLR with it's tiny camera. So you're really into photography, you should probably invest in good DSLR camera. It doesn't make sense for me to spend such large amount of money on a smartphone unless you have free cash laying around or want to show off.
Anonymous, 12 Oct 2018That is strange, since Note 3 does not seem to be upgraded beyond Lollipop, let alone Oreo: ht... moreIt's a custom rom. In reality you are absulutely correct. however there are still roms for phones that are 3-4 and even 5 to 6 years old.
Well this was first time in my life that I got update the same day when it rolled out. And that means a lot to me.
Akash, 12 Oct 2018Of course. My Lenovo k5 plus was stuck on Android 5.1 lollipop and never got update. But now I... moreso in other word , u want update or newest os ... do it on ur own even u paid it almost $1k .....
Mythi, 12 Oct 2018Maaan! Haven't seen you here since disqus days, welcome back?!Thanks, well I have not been that active in here.
Before we got local logins back, I was only rather rarely posting.
Kiyasuriin, 12 Oct 2018Actually. I saw, I saw a samsung experience 9 (based on Oreo) on a Note 3 and I fiddled with m... moreThat is strange, since Note 3 does not seem to be upgraded beyond Lollipop, let alone Oreo: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3-5665.php
Anonymous, 12 Oct 2018All you say is absolutely right but your comparison is not like-for-like: you are comparing th... moreActually. I saw, I saw a samsung experience 9 (based on Oreo) on a Note 3 and I fiddled with my friend's permission, haha! It feels like Note 9 with Note 3's hardware!
Anonymous, 12 Oct 2018Actually the situation of current Android flagships can't be compared to a low end phone like ... moreAll you say is absolutely right but your comparison is not like-for-like: you are comparing the software performance of a device launched a year ago (Mi A1 - September 2017), with a device that was released 5 years ago (iPhone 5S - September 2013).