Anonymous, 10 Dec 2018Not Budget flagship.. it is just a phone with flagship processor at cheap price. Nothing speci... moreIn Real Life:
Pocophone F1 has faster performance than my Samsung Note 9 Exynos.
Pocophone F1 has faster charging than my Samsung Note 9 Exynos.
Pocophone F1 battery endurance is higher than Huawei Mate 20 Pro.
Pocophone F1 has better camera and video stabilization than Asus Zenfone 5Z.
Pocophone F1 can kicking other Flagship in some area.
This is real not just about specs sheet.
Iphone 8 is flagship because every apple phones arw flagship at his tym so i always chose apple phones
Jamesschwarz987, 14 Dec 2018Then let me ask you.
Imagine this, once upon a time, there's a brand that released a phone... moreBy his logic, the iphone SE was a flagship in his time...
To everybody else, it was a nice midranger, or even an entry level for the apple ecosystem.
Jamesschwarz987, 14 Dec 2018Then you're crazy for having a flagship but it has no camera.
You must be a good icon of ty... moreMan i am not crazy in here. Real life of me is a completely different story but here i am as a bussiness man with a view or sight of a bussiness man.
On any aspect or post here i am looking by own view but also by view of many manmy my customers what they would say.
Please do understand average Salary here in Slovakia is around 600 euros with a 480 euros minimum sale thus not everybody would pay or afford 1000+ euro Note 9 if they have to shell one and half monthly salary just for the phone excluding every expenses they should have like bills for energy, gas, water, living, food and many else.
Jamesschwarz987, 14 Dec 2018Blackberry Key series are flagship though.Maybe because blackberry did not make any phone this year with better SOC than SD660.
And because its a most secured abndroid device money can buy.
But its a well know canadian brand an d GSM Arena mentoided them just because to have many different devices on a table.
CptPower, 14 Dec 2018Yes of course becasue of its SOCs.
Imagine if Xiaomi makes Note 9 a completely genuine one... moreThen you're crazy for having a flagship but it has no camera.
You must be a good icon of typical tech-edgy users who would join any bandwagons on every trends, sure.
Jamesschwarz987, 14 Dec 2018Don't being hypocritic when you called me a liar.
Also, open your eyes, if you are a grown... moreMan I am honest bussiness man.
Working as a salesman for many, many years Since 2002.
Sorry for calling you liar. Huge apologize. Pardon me but do please understand a simple fact.
Features a Galaxy note have are not for everybody.
If we put both phones next to each other in a large shopping mall most people will buy a poco due to price and same power as Note 9 have.
Note 9 even if it haves outstanding features not many people are willing to shell 700+ extra cash from a wallet for having equaly same speed phone but with bixby IP 68, curved amoled screen, Samsung pay, S-Pen, sligthly better camera and some other not very relevant features which poco dont have and dont need.
Hope you understands now.
Jamesschwarz987, 14 Dec 2018Then let me ask you.
Imagine this, once upon a time, there's a brand that released a phone... moreYes of course becasue of its SOCs.
Imagine if Xiaomi makes Note 9 a completely genuine one as Samsung did but with a Xiaomi sticker on it and sells it for 400 euros 512GB version. Then it will be midranger because 4500 euros price says its a midranger???
I dont think so.
I understand your way but GSM Arena solved it this way and i agree with them.
Its a CPU and GPU which defines flagship not a price range or features.
You cn have ASUS ROG phone which have far more features than any other phone ever created but as long as they put SD4xx inside it will be a budget phone even if it will have a 1TB option along with 10GB of ram.
CptPower, 12 Dec 2018Man thats your iopinion. GSM Arena counted SD845 as a flagship device thus poco is flagship de... moreDon't being hypocritic when you called me a liar.
Also, open your eyes, if you are a grown man, you know that world are too big for you to made such a narrow assumption like that.
Your language and typewriting doesn't resembles like what you've said about you.
Jamesschwarz987, 14 Dec 2018It depends. I would agree with you if 99.5% people as you stated would bought Poco over Note9,... moreMan Soc arent everything and i am speaking about having both phones right behind the main entrance to any shopping mall.
So for all people rich and poor or average in salary and money on bank account.
Poco will wins.
And money arent everything.
If xiaomi build genuine same phone as Note 9 but with Xiaomi sticker on it and sells it for 400 euros it will be considered as midranger???
No it wont.
Thus poco if flagship becauzse its SOC is a flagship one.
GSM Arena were right saying poco belongs to flagship series phones.
And realme 2 pro would be an outstanding midranger. for 170 euros even it price belongs to budget level.
J4 plus made by samsung cost more and dont offer even a 10% of what realme 2 pro have for the 170 euros.
CptPower, 14 Dec 2018They are useless features which people most people wont like to pay for.
LCD is good enough ... moreThen let me ask you.
Imagine this, once upon a time, there's a brand that released a phone that has the best flagship SoC on the market, say it's a Snapdragon 845 and 10GB RAM, that'll cost you only $100!! Imagine that.
But, it has a 4" TFT LCD screen with 480p resolution, with big bezel, no headphone jack, microUSB port, also no camera, no waterproof, embodied with plastic body, small battery.
Oh ya, with it's low screen resolution, it must be has the highest benchmark score ever.
Would you still consider it's a flagship?
CptPower, 14 Dec 2018Man if we put both phones next to each other with all its specification and its average price ... moreIt depends. I would agree with you if 99.5% people as you stated would bought Poco over Note9, if you asked it on tech-savvy people community like this, but how about if you asked it to most rich people or some high-end professsion people? No. Not even 50%. Not only because of its quality, but because of its fashions and brand. It just the same for you to asked people to choose an old iPhone or this new Pocophone.
Also i said it again, SoC aren't everything.
Jamesschwarz987, 12 Dec 2018No. It has nothing to do with a flagship class. A flagship means everything on it is the best ... moreMan if we put both phones next to each other with all its specification and its average price 300 for Pocophone and 1200 for average Note 9 it ends this way:
Among 1000 people 995 pick pocophone over Note 9 just because of price and lack of features which they wont ever need or use and they will not want to pay for them. .
Note 9 is all about its features thus this phone cost 1000+.
by the way price dont define range where phone belongs.
Realme 2pro cost 170 euros and should be considered as a budged phone by your way but how a 8GB ram with SD660 and Adreno 512 could be budget??? Also it carry 128GB disk space and 3500 mAh battery.
ProJames, 12 Dec 2018Ok you never tried a Note before. I can tell it. Or you were so biased against Samsung that yo... moreMan i am not rejecting Note 9 i am just telling that for 280 euros Poco is a lot better because for a much lower price can do same tricks at the same speeds.
Anything else Note9 have are just a specuiality features for a certain people.
But i can honestly say from 1000 people maybe 5 would choose note 9 and 995 will pick pocophone.
Just because it offers same or better speeds than Note 9 for a 1/4 of Note 9 price.
Anonymous, 10 Dec 2018Flashship = best the company can manufacture. (better than the rest of their phones)
Genera... moreMan but Poco is best its a best flagship.
By your words if Poco will have same features as now if it will cost 1500 you will consider it as a flagship :-)
LOL you are crazy and strange.
dude111, 12 Dec 2018"CPU and GPU defines flagship and GSM Arena solved it this way."
No, it does not.
A better... moreThey are useless features which people most people wont like to pay for.
LCD is good enough amoled is not needed. Its good if you have it but LCD is cheaper more durable and does not leaves burns after heavy usage.
Body glass finnish looks gorgeous but plastic is a lot more durable than glass.
In case of Poco you have a carbon fibre option for 10 more which is more durable than alluminium frame, glass or palstic.
Camera at Poco is good enough.
No matter what phone you have the moment you print your photo to A4 or bigger format you wont like it. Even a 150 euros Sony or Nikon does much better photos than a best camera on a smarthphone.
IP rating for what??? Do you swim with your phone??? I dont think so.
Accidental water damage is for clumsy and careless people.
For the rest IP rating is not needed. Because if your phone suffers water damage and is not your fault the responsibility to fix it is on other person.
etc etc etc are guimmicks and useless features which maybe 1-5% of people will use.
For everyone else Poco is more than good enough and finaly.
CPU and GPU is what defines flagship.
Having moto X4 which have more features than Note 9 and its not a flagship device.
Alien , 13 Dec 2018For a Czech person, you sure sound indian :))
All you see is the price. I'm not saying the pr... moreMan thats mate 20 X not Note 9 accept that.
Bigger battery better screen faster a lt releable better cooling etc.
Note 9 cant compete.
Apart from S-Pen have nothing which Mate 20 X dont have.
And Poco is quality enough. More than 700k of people around the world bought this phone in 3 months.
Thats much more than Samsung can sell Note 9 devices in one year.
Price and features is all that matter.
Hence poco offers best possible features for now only 280 euros while note cost still around 1000 and have nothing worth the price.
In other words if xiaomi can made genuinely same device it will have up to 600 euros in price but not 1000+. And up to 600 will cost 512GB version.
Thats the whole story and i dont care if you like it or not.
CptPower, 12 Dec 2018Man i am speaking for millions of people not just for my self.
You are one of 5% users but m... moreFor a Czech person, you sure sound indian :))
All you see is the price. I'm not saying the price is not important, but there's more to it than just that.
Clearly you are the type of person that would choose quantity over quality.
Meanwhile the rest of us are in the other boat, going for quality products.
Note 9 is the best money can buy today in the Android world. Just accept the truth instead of bugging everyone here with your preconceived vision.
CptPower, 12 Dec 2018Yes it is and its the best flagship among all others.
CPU and GPU defines flagship and GSM A... more"CPU and GPU defines flagship and GSM Arena solved it this way."
No, it does not.
A better screen, body, camera, IP rating, etc etc etc are not gimmicks.