The last Oracle, 17 Dec 2018With a QuadBayer pixel array and 38MP, the final photo size will be less than 10MP. I am not s... moreI am still trying to figure this out. While it will have 1/4th the details of a 36MP sensor, it will have way more light and way less detail loss due to issues with low light and Bayer pattern limitations. In the end it will probably land up to be as good as the best 12MP Smartphone Camera sensor this year. Usable ISO5000 is huge for a smartphone camera. Especially with good OIS, HDR and a fast lens.
Anonymous, 13 Dec 2018The reason why Huawei use the same sensors as Sony but get better results is down to software.Well... I prefer real colours on daylight photos... So i prefer my old xz1 than my p20 pro... On night p20 pro is better but on videos p20 pro looks like shit... For daylight i use my xz1 with open camera for top hdr photos and sony camera for 1080p videos and slow motions videos, on nightlight my p20 pro only for photos and for low light videos i use my iphone xs max...
With a QuadBayer pixel array and 38MP, the final photo size will be less than 10MP. I am not sure why Sony isn't making 48MP sensors in sizes of 1/1.5 over with the Quad pixel array. That could result in some amazing photos.
On second thoughts the new Dual Bayer seems to compensate for light and sharpness loss due to the Bayer pattern. So it could be more in the range of 15-20MP with the sharpness and detail due to the mixed Bayer Pattern that this new sensor has (CFA).
Stan, 13 Dec 2018I have some serious doubts that they do. Bionz is a photo processor name within Sony. I don't ... moreBionz on Xperia is software.
Bionz on Sony cameras is hardware.
Alpha is now in charge of Xperia cam software....
I am not blind, the P20 Pro is dual camera setup, but the P30 Pro could be go back to single camera. People will yes yes yes yeah yeah yeah, this marketing really works so well.
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2018Alpha team is responsible for xz2 bionz I have some serious doubts that they do. Bionz is a photo processor name within Sony. I don't see why they wouldn't be able to use the processor naming convention for the Sony Mobile, without actually having Sony Photo develop it.
regs, 13 Dec 2018They should STOP making P Pro in a size of Mate series. There is now absolutely no difference ... moreChecked. Any other wishes you desire and want to see before you are going to buy all the phones that Huawei is going to make, otherwise let the company do what's more profitable so it can continue its business of making phones for the masses that Can't be represented by one taste.
SpiritWolf, 13 Dec 2018P20 Pro photos are trash, sorry. Oversharpened, oversaturated, full of artifacts and no detail.i agree its my biggest regret.
Syn, 13 Dec 2018Then why is P20 Pro having better camera performance than the Sony flagship?P20 Pro photos are trash, sorry. Oversharpened, oversaturated, full of artifacts and no detail.
Shanti Dope, 12 Dec 2018Nice, great joke brother! Jokes are meant to be false, right? You did great this time!Truth hurts, doesn't it?
The reason why Huawei use the same sensors as Sony but get better results is down to software.
Still would be great companies included rgbw sensor, it helps a lot. Cannot wait though gsma to test it on that pattern of the building...
They should STOP making P Pro in a size of Mate series. There is now absolutely no difference between those two series. They should reduce P series width to maximum of 67 mm. And should not forget about qi charging and time-unlimited stabilized 4K60 video recording with exFat, NTFS and ext4 with memory cards for it.
Shanti Dope, 12 Dec 2018Which is why the XZ2 Premium could take a clear video in the darkest of times, right?? Let's ... moreI wonder who actually uses the 960fps super slow motion video anyways.... I rather have better photos capabilities than such gimmick.
Anonymous, 13 Dec 2018Sony Mobile do use better sensor, it's just either they don't know any s*** about the postproc... moreThat's why they should step up their camera game for their alpha range already.
Let their smartphone sensors happily pass the 1/2" sensor size territory, and make the alpha sensors also increase in size for better quality.
As for image processing, they need to do some more research about how to improve the quality drastically.
The current ones on their XZ3 is the greatest IF it was used in 2016, but multi-frame image stacking has already proven its effectivity, and Sony needs to sort it out.
Also, since it appears to be combining total 16 pixels into one, I think the resultant image would be a little above 2 MP (38 MP/ 16 P = 2.xx MP)
I can't see any other arrangement possible.
Although, these white pixels might drastically reduce color noise, the one that is the worst form of image noise.
I'm reading some comments here.
See, no doubt Sony is among the best sensor makers out there... There's no doubt. Make a list of top 5 sensor makers, and its incomplete if Sony is not there.
However, the common public should have expectations in control. Sony can't bend laws of physics.
And there's a significant difference between 1/1.2 inch of 808 Pureview, 1/1.5 inch of Lumia 1020 and 1/1.8 inch of this sensor.
However, agreed that this sensor should be good for some quality photos & more versatility using these techniques...