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  • Bawn_Boy
  • SgL
  • 03 Dec 2011

Just to correct one thing in the article. The Asha series phones are not Symbian, they are S40.

Anyway, and this is just my opinion, why do a lot of those who comment on tech blogs seem like little 15yr old boys in a basement somewhere with a "my willys bigger than your willy" attitude. Fanboyism should be outlawed by some sort of international convention!

I currently own the N8, the iphone 4 and a Galaxy S2. They are all great phones, all have their good and bad points. But i enjoy using all of them.

Nokia may be in the doldrums at the minute, but they will survive and prosper. These days, a year is a long time in the tech world. Nokia had a problem with a bloated management structure that couldn't react to market forces quickly enough. It was taking them 2 to 2 and a half years to develop a phone to be production ready! Elop, love him or hate him, has wielded the knife to cut out the excess and make them faster on their feet. There's hardly a company in the world that when almost a monopoly rests on its laurels a bit too much. They may never again be the monopoly they once were, but they won't disappear either.

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    • anand
    • uvX
    • 03 Dec 2011

    meego has a revolutionary UI and it wil be better if nokia is going to continue supporting it

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      • jan
      • M}H
      • 03 Dec 2011

      Hi All,

      somebody said that Lg was the first toucf phone, then Iphone , thats is not true. You remember Siemens mobile, Siemens was first, but they stopt making phones.
      I sill wish siemens will come back in mobile bisiness,
      because they had better phones than Nokia. I have now nokia n9, better than nokia 800 windows phone.
      Look at youtube Siemens sxx75 touch phone year 2006.

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        • Anonymous
        • n35
        • 03 Dec 2011

        they should coperate with samsung and intel at tizen, an os based on meego. They have bigger chances with it instead wp7.

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          • epolaris
          • Rn@
          • 03 Dec 2011

          Em, 03 Dec 2011I actually agree with some of your comments but then I disagree as well. We all know Nokia was... moreThat's a very diplomatic answer. And maybe its closest to the truth. Symbian was definitely stale in the eyes of consumer's (myself included) and pretty much lost its legendary status immediately when iOS was released. Android was just the last nail in the coffin. Nokia got too complacent with their software development and took consumer's needs for granted. The move to go with WP7 was probably based on raw business ideals. From that perspective, you can possibly understand why they chose WP7 (in order to minimize risk). So it may have been (dare I say) appropriate for them to go with WP7 instead.

          I guess the only thing they are truly guilty of is a lack of vision. Granted, they did come up with the idea and there is no way to know what caused the switch from Meego to WP7. Still, that whole situation has disappointing written all over it.
          Nokia was pretty much known for uniquely defining themselves... But now, there will be nothing to differentiate themselves from the group they so desperately want to compete with..

          Meego was the answer... They just didn't know it..
          Choosing to imagine means by default that you have to risk failure. Steve Jobs knew that all too well and that's why we have iOS and even Android. Nothing revolutionary happens without risk. You'd think they would know this or else, why create the Meego project in the first place..

          Ultimately in their defense, we'll never really know I guess.. Maybe Fringe will cover it in an episode or two with the whole parallel universe thing along with telling us if Elvis is actually still alive..

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            • Ananda
            • t}A
            • 03 Dec 2011

            We r waiting 4 nokia+android devices.

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              • AnonD-25422
              • 2@e
              • 03 Dec 2011

              Anonymous, 03 Dec 2011Wow, keep spreading your ignorance. I wonder how did people come to the conclusion that androi... moreAndroid's biggest problem is that's managed code. This makes it a lot slower and a resource hog. If there's one mobile OS that gracefully carries the Linux flag its MeeGo. Runs Natively and it's very resource efficient.

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                • AnonD-25422
                • 2@e
                • 03 Dec 2011

                Elop should write another memo that he was wrong about Symbian and Meego all along. He should continue the Windows strategy but also promise support for Symbian/Meego making it a 5 ecosystems game.

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                  • Ano
                  • Ax4
                  • 03 Dec 2011

                  People who are used to Symbian will not buy WP7. They are used to a more open operating system that doesn't prevent them from doing things. They are more likely to adopt Android instead.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • uuh
                    • 03 Dec 2011

                    AnonD-4697, 03 Dec 2011Well Android phone don't do it well at 100%, we can have quad-cores or 8-cores BUT if the OS i... moreWow, keep spreading your ignorance. I wonder how did people come to the conclusion that android is not optimised for multi core processors.

                    Well, just to inform you that the linux kernel on which android runs can work with 1024 independent cores. (a certain patch set can bump this up to 4096.).

                    Android or for that matter any operating system never interacts with the hardware. There is a monolithic kernel in between them. My sgs2 is really smooth like the sgs1 which I had. Of course, people would know that the linux kernel is the best in the world and as such has been ported to so many architectures. But trolls don't need to know about details or facts. Or even care about them. ;-)

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                      • Anonymous
                      • YM0
                      • 03 Dec 2011

                      Nokia tried to monopolise its operating system symbian and now they r facing the brunt.In todays date, Nokia phones are not value for money. They shouldn't recover their loses but selling their outdated devices at sucha high price. certainly not value for money.

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                        • 1911
                        • 0}$
                        • 03 Dec 2011

                        Oncom, 03 Dec 2011Nokia has made their decision to go with WP, so why should it discussed over and over again..?... more..your'e right! Waiting for new nokia wp7 devices - i'm excited!!

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                          • jas
                          • sxw
                          • 03 Dec 2011

                          1) fire elop
                          2) add units for android
                          3) provide specs that the other brands dont (ie. longer battery life, dual sim, better camera, better audio)

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                            • ok!
                            • K1E
                            • 03 Dec 2011

                            no matter what Operating system nokia use,applications and games is the important thing to attract the buyer

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                              • Sri
                              • uvu
                              • 03 Dec 2011

                              Nokia can have tie-ups with/support for, all the mobile software. 1) Google/Andriod 2) Microsoft 3) Symbian.

                              If the user can choose the software/can change the software after buying, that an awesome impossible plan !!!

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                                • Anonymous
                                • 4{n
                                • 03 Dec 2011

                                nokia phones wasnt just cutting it.
                                while everyone was popping out phones left and right, each better than the next, nokia wasnt.
                                and when they were, the specs just dont compare to others, especially samsung.
                                i use to like nokia and still like a few of their phones but in terms of functionality and design and options, im with either samsung or
                                SE or LG.
                                sorry nokia

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                                  • AnonD-4697
                                  • Pr@
                                  • 03 Dec 2011

                                  Well Android phone don't do it well at 100%, we can have quad-cores or 8-cores BUT if the OS is not fully optimized to use it is just a waste..

                                  Gingerbread was supposed to handle, now ICS is supposed to handle if not they will say Jellybean will do it, is like the sad history of Linux, every year "is the year of Linux"....yeah right!

                                  No matter the number of Cores you have, is HOW the OS use it...and iOS/WP/Symbian can handle a Single cored phones pretty well..

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                                    • Allanitomwesh
                                    • fuw
                                    • 03 Dec 2011

                                    Nokia have made some strange choices in recent times,dumping meego being top of the list.Choosing to fight linux with windows is sound but I fear they will lose market to Samsung in the smartphone department.Nokia N9 was the best thing i had seen since the N86 but when you open ovi store on that phone theres almost nothing and it is sad.Im yet to use the windows phone so until then...am on android.

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                                      • nokia share holder
                                      • K1I
                                      • 03 Dec 2011

                                      AnonD-930, 03 Dec 2011ya u r right . I like ur comment . First use the device then comment and compare these people ... morebelle ,,,, do u try use it to surf the net ,i a mobile retailer ,i compare every phone to use it as a mobile browser,if u own a samsung s2 or htc xe u know what i mean.

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                                        • nokia share holder
                                        • K1I
                                        • 03 Dec 2011

                                        fire elop ,fire everybody in nokia who only choose wp7 as the last hope of nokia,make few mid to high end model nokia android phone ,it will safe nokia safe us .

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