YUKI93, 19 Mar 2019No, it's NOT the megapixel I'm actually talking about.No duh. You said sensor. And I responded as such.
My final response about the mp still was referring to the differences in sensors associated with the 12, 48, 60, and 100mp sensors
Anonymous, 18 Mar 2019I understand the positives and negatives ofhaving 12mp or 64+. Especially in a phoneNo, it's NOT the megapixel I'm actually talking about.
YUKI93, 17 Mar 2019I guess it's rather hard to explain the tech behind camera sensor. -_-I understand the positives and negatives ofhaving 12mp or 64+. Especially in a phone
Anonymous, 17 Mar 2019Lower camera sensor? Obviously these are still technically bigger cameras sensorsI guess it's rather hard to explain the tech behind camera sensor. -_-
YUKI93, 17 Mar 2019Higher MP camera in trade for lower camera sensor? No thank you, I'll stick to DLSR or mirrorl... moreLower camera sensor? Obviously these are still technically bigger cameras sensors
Higher MP camera in trade for lower camera sensor? No thank you, I'll stick to DLSR or mirrorless camera.
As for smartphones, it's still hard to beat the good old Nokia 808 PureView, the Nokia Lumia 1020 and also the Panasonic Lumix CM1.
The last Oracle, 16 Mar 2019I sometimes feel 12MP is too little, especially either the tiny sensor and mediocre lenses. Th... moreIt's because they are all more worried about profit not only just now but more profit on future sales rather than giving us a more useful and justifiable or advanced product. They all want to trickle the technology. It's like every company is becoming Apple.
Anonymous, 16 Mar 2019Or, let's stop bining pixels together and leaving the whole resolution alone. Photos from a M... moreSeriously. I don't know why they don't just leave user definable modes for image processing still.
eemix , 16 Mar 2019I personally don't have problem with a little thicker phone in order to fit an 1 inch sensor, ... moreHuawei has 40 1.4um sized pixels on a 1/1.7 inch sensor. I'm sure you can push a little more than 16mp with that one inch sensor. Though I understand your stance but most would prefer a little more resolution on the balance.
And it's true. The sad part is even though everyone kind of pushes the thin slabs that most people would completely use a thicker phone. Especially after using the camera and realizing how much longer the battery lasts.
Yet everyone thinks they want the thinner phone. If phones were made thinker with bigger battery's and cameras and maybe other unique designs and features again they would be selling just as well and people would like them better.
I lied. They might sell a little less because people would actually hold onto them a little longer.
The companies are all just stringing us along at this point. Not just Apple. Sony, Google, LG, even somewhat huawei, and Samsung too. They all are. They used to offer better tech.
Nobody offers good enough hardware or software support to justify these prices. It's corporate greed. And for the love of God let's not get into ios updates or that pixel recently claimed to support for longer because it's very weak and half baked updates.
Anonymous, 16 Mar 2019They do .... Very common with low resolution cameras like 12MP. They know how to put details ... moreThat's what noise itself does. Not so much the people setting the software. And again. Most just use noise reduction or leave some noise. Not fine tune the noise as you imply
Anonymous, 16 Mar 2019Manual mode > iso250 > shutter 2s > hdr on :) Most phones don't work with hdr in manual. To some extent but not like the auto mode unfortunately. If course that also has to do with shutter speed too which is usually set a lot slower when set manually
I think a lot of the times just using higher megapixels is a marketing ploy. Most people who buy phones don't know much about what's in them, just keywords and what's higher is better. But I do believe Smartphones are very disruptive tech and always have been. They wiped out the disposable camera market and have hit the small camera market by quite a fair amount too. They won't hit the DSLR market any time soon, or ever. But they could next go for the compact camera market. A bigger sensor, even if it's just twice the size of what our sensors are now would grant a huge level of detail. Phones are all practically the same now, so a company that comes out with a phone that isn't too much thicker than the rest of the phones out there but has a sensor that's 2/3x bigger could dominate many markets.
I sometimes feel 12MP is too little, especially either the tiny sensor and mediocre lenses. They could push the sensor to 12inch. Also someone needs to have a smartphone sensor with (Dual or Triple) Native ISO of upto ISO5000 (like the IMX607).
Also smartphone sensors should have better glass. Something with much greater resolving power.
The periscope zoom on the P30 Pro seems like a great idea. I am not sure how it would handle low light though.
Or, let's stop bining pixels together and leaving the whole resolution alone.
Photos from a Mate 20 Pro have less details than a photo from a HTC One M9.
In daylight, there is no point of using a denoise algorhytm as extreme as this.
They should leave the denoise up to the user, or just add a denoise mode.
Or just keep it to night mode only.
Lumia 1020 and 808 are still unrivaled to this day in terms of details in daylight.
I personally don't have problem with a little thicker phone in order to fit an 1 inch sensor, in 16mp and big pixels. Combining zoom and wide lenses would be the absolute partner for vacations...
Anonymous, 16 Mar 2019We will wait for them to do that thenThey do .... Very common with low resolution cameras like 12MP.
They know how to put details where they do not existe.
LG Superfan, 16 Mar 2019Looks fake but it can brighten up pictures considerably would be nice if it was adjustableManual mode > iso250 > shutter 2s > hdr on
Anonymous, 16 Mar 2019I wish they would focused on designing a bigger sensor instead of just trying to reach a highe... moreNo. That's completely false and illogical.
Just negative brands are market leaders doesn't mean that what they offer is the only features that are sought after.
And to just make up for yourself that the only reason device with 48mp are only sought out for the device and not the camera is ridiculous. Clearly many people want the device specifically for that camera and maybe other features or the price.
And what is needed is a good balance of better resolution and sensor size. Mega pixel count still has its use. Sometimes more noise depending on tech, software, and what not. But also much more resolved and fine natural detail.
A larger sensor with large but still good sized pixels well give better results in more scenarios
Mediatek sux, 16 Mar 2019I dont think you can get those results just with processing. In the crops
Of the building, yo... moreIf they had used manual settings in the building scene it might have helped.
Mainly the only difference in detail I see between the two is that there seemed to be a little less noise reduction. Not really more detail
I wish they would focused on designing a bigger sensor instead of just trying to reach a higher mp count, I also disagree with the statement about higher mp being in demand, its not so much that its in demand, its that certain brands in select market are in high demand, these devices are also flagships in their respective markets and carry high end components, and sell well regardlesss of having 50mp sensors on the back, it just so happens that the high end market has these cameras, so the demand is not necessarily for the camera but for the device if that makes sense, look at apple and samsung for example, they only have 12mp cameras, yet they are still market leading often, if you stuck a 100mp camera on the back i doubt it would sell more, just a marketing gimmick really