Anonymous, 16 May 2019Well hurting the earlobe is no different, it's still hurting. With IEMs you feel discomfort af... moreWell, as I said, moving from regular earphones to in-ear earphones is the downgrade. It may not seem like it, since all the marketing is out there telling you what is new/hot/fresh and what you should buy. However, from a logical, rational, and practicality standpoint it is a downgrade.
It's just like phones moving from flat displays to curved displays. Or from standard aspect ratios to irregular aspect ratios. Or from Slim bezels to No Bezels. Or from standard screens to cut/hole/notch screens. Or from durable materials to slippery, smudgey, fragile glass sandwich designs. Or from flat enclosure, to one with camera bumps and/or mechanical moving parts. It is a trend "upgrade", but from a practicality sense it is worse.
Now we can argue back and forward, but to really prove it you need the "kid test". It's simple, try to place a regular earphone on a child's earlobe (outside, not over-ear) and see how annoying it feels, or how long it takes for the child to move away/yank it off. Now repeat the same thing with by placing an in-ear earphone inside a child's ear canal (inside, not over-ear) and compare the results. I think this experiment makes my point of the issue blatantly clear.
Kangal, 16 May 2019Yes, but the opposite of what you said is true.
Regular earphones don't go inside your ear,... moreWell hurting the earlobe is no different, it's still hurting. With IEMs you feel discomfort after 2-3 hours, with pods you feel it immediately.
Speaking of audio quality, it's possible to make pods that sound as good as IEMs, it's just the fact that nobody would buy them that stops manufacturers from doing so. I can't imagine a valid reason to downgrade to pods after 10-12 years of using more comfortable IEMs.
Anonymous, 16 May 2019You can make a hole in your IEMs to hear ambient noises, many people do it.
Pods are extinct ... moreYes, but the opposite of what you said is true.
Regular earphones don't go inside your ear, they rest on your earlobe. So no, they do not squeeze inside, and they are a (much) better fit than in-ear earphones. In-ear ones have a softer rubber, true, but it gets squeezed inside your ear canal which is stupendously more dis/uncomfortable.
Maybe with "training" you can get over it, but why bother when you have a better solution: regular earphones. And if your counter is "audio quality" then you're still in the wrong, because you would then step up to an over-ear headset instead...or step up to a proper Amp-Sub-Surround Sound setup like I have in my home.
Kangal, 15 May 2019Yes, but I don't want that high-quality sound... I want comfort.
If I want to have high-qua... moreYou can make a hole in your IEMs to hear ambient noises, many people do it.
Pods are extinct for a reason: people have different ears and need something soft so that it takes a shape of their ears, otherwise it may hurt. I can't imagine voluntarily subjecting myself to that discomfort and pain again.
Kangal, 15 May 2019Yes, but I don't want that high-quality sound... I want comfort.
If I want to have high-qua... moreIn earphones and full size headphones are apples and grapes, two very different things.
At the end of the day, if you want truely wireless due to convenience and portability at the sacrifice of high fidelity then that's your taste
I have akg k551 full size headphones for home usage, but I use quad balanced armature earphones Sony xba-40 and my high resolution digital audio player nw-Zx100 for one reason, it makes all phones (except dp-cmx1) sound like tinny cassette players, while I listen to high resolution Audio in audiophile grade equipment, it's like watching vcd and comparing to Blu-ray in quality terms, but there again, you probably don't know as you have never experienced using audiophile grade equipment for listening to music.
DJ.Grand Theft Audio, 15 May 2019I Can't use Bluetooth earphones when making beats on phone as there is latency. Looks like I'm... moreJust use the converter? I wouldn't pass up on this phone for that reason, also the latency on these new BT headsets is virtually non existent and im used to shaving MS's off latency for gaming.
I would try it before you say no.
imparanoic, 15 May 2019uses balanced armature driver which unlike regular/traditional dyanmic driver, sealed chamber,... moreYes, but I don't want that high-quality sound... I want comfort.
If I want to have high-quality, then I wouldn't use earphones (in-ear), I would use a headsets (over-ear) instead.
Not only that, if I'm jogging and I have the classic earphones on (or "EarPods") they are quite comfortable, allows ambient noises, and if they get yanked off it doesn't affect me as the wearer.
In contrast to these in-ear earphones, they produce pressure to the head/ear and can be quite uncomfortable, pose a safety risk as they isolate ambient noises (like traffic), and if yanked they can pull on your ear quite hard and damage your ear.
I hope this makes sense now...
very impressive price level at US$100 and expect this technology at least around double the price , balanced armatures drivers are quite expensive, some multi balanced armature earphones such as sony ier-m7 (5 balanced armature) cost US$1200 or shure SE646 (5 balanced armature) at US$800, even wired hybrid balanced armatures/dyanamic driver earphones such as sony xba-n1 cost US$250 and that's not even wireless.
Kangal, 15 May 2019For me, the biggest problem with this isn't the Bluetooth... its the design of the ends of the... moreuses balanced armature driver which unlike regular/traditional dyanmic driver, sealed chamber, no noise leakage, thus, doesn't have the noise leakages issues with pure dynamic driver earphones, also balanced armature has silky smooth sound quality over dynamic drivers generally
DJ.Grand Theft Audio, 15 May 2019I Can't use Bluetooth earphones when making beats on phone as there is latency. Looks like I'm... moreactually with high bitrate aptx hd @ very low latency, unless your phone has a not so good music app which causes the latency
the principal is the same with game emulation and bluetooth controllers, 8 out of 10 cases of latency issues turns out to be app, especially third party apps and drivers, rather than the controller or the phone, same applies with audio and music apps
based on the description, hybrid balanced armatures and dynamic drivers with high bitrate (bluetooth 4.2 uses same bitrate as 20 year old bluetooth) aptx hd, that's an inexpensive audiophile grade quality equipment, it will make samsung galaxy buds and apple airpods sound like cheap low quality earphones, the fact that balanced armatures drivers are sealed and have sound isolationm means that it's not far from digital noise cancellation
Whaaat, 14 May 2019No one needs that!! No one should buy it!!! We want headphones jack Bye onweplus!Exactly my thought . It can also be better for me at least with a noise cancelling feature over ear type of headphones.
For me, the biggest problem with this isn't the Bluetooth... its the design of the ends of the buds. This is an "in-ear" bud, compared to the "regular ear"-buds of Apple and Sony Classic.
Sure, music may sound better when you completely plug up your earhole. However, it feels off and there's pressure applied to the user. Not to mention it physically blocks off ambient noises, making it a safety hazard in certain situations.
The problem is the industry is saturated in these "in-ear"-phones, or "over-ear"-headsets. The regular earphones is now a niche, which to me is a similar "progress" as all phones getting curved glass, with 19:9 aspect ratios, and notches. It's a technical progress but NOT a practical progress, people often forget this.
DaniD, 14 May 2019I was thinking the same up until I've tried wireless headphones for the first time. I did not ... moreI Can't use Bluetooth earphones when making beats on phone as there is latency. Looks like I'm stuck with the same phone for long time. There's other phones with 3.5mm jack but none interest me.
Whaaat, 14 May 2019No one needs that!! No one should buy it!!! We want headphones jack Bye onweplus!I was thinking the same up until I've tried wireless headphones for the first time. I did not regret it! I have had enough of wires. My job can be boring so I listen to music, but when a client pops up, I have to act quickly. Wired headphones started to be a pain in the ... when I had to take then out of my ears quickly, put them away than take them up again, untangle them and start this all over every time. I've bought a pair of wireless in-ear headphones for $70, which I just take out of my ears, let them fall on my shoulders and do my thing. When done, with a simple move I'll put them back in place and that's it. Totally worth it. They also sound very pleasant!
Not splash proof? God, OnePlus must really hate water protection.
Otherwise it seems to be nice.
Pretty rushed review, while good as preview it doesn't address the most important concern. Is the noise cancelation actually any better? This was its former major flaw...
My God, 10 minutes charging for 10 hours. That's the power of USB C