They better reverse this since the way I see it Google just gave Samsung a monopoly in the Android market, I am sure the EU who already have issues with Google may decide to blacklist all of Google from all Androids within the EU sector. That would indeed balance things tough I am not sure it would be healthy for Google to be blocked out in China & the Union... OwO
Anonymous, 21 May 2019When you stay in other people's house, you have to obey their rules and regulation. They can e... moreUS constitution bends on democracy and competition. That's why US still does not ban some rifles for minors despite school shootings because 'it is our right to have rifles'. I get that 'my house, my rules' but if a US court is unbiased, then FBI/CIA must provide first hard evidence regarding Huawei's misconduct before putting the ban in place. Otherwise, the ban decision will only be seen as anti-competition. And that's not a very good indication for other foreign companies investing in the US. The hunger for capitalism and the US constitution are the two things protecting foreign companies from being discriminated at in the US, slap an unconstitutional decision and you take away the confidence of other foreign companies.
Your analogies regarding neighbors is wrong. This is more like neighbor one allows neighbor two to make business on neighbor one's property, but with contract (contract : constitution). It states in the contract that neighbor two will be kicked out if proven a threat to neighbor one in the court. If neighbor two is kicked out without being heard first using the contract (courtroom), then why would neighbor three do business with neighbor one when the contracts don't protect them?
and in the end, they are going to pay trump to left the band and this would be over. Huawei is ruling and America can't do anything about it.
NotAnOpinion, 21 May 2019And as a lawyer, you should know that the FBI has over 20 counts of allegations along with esp... moreSo, FBI never brings a case to a judge and loose? Like never ever? Bringing the case to a judge doesn't mean someone automatically is guilty.
NotAnOpinion, 21 May 2019You assume all that $250 is on the device. It is not. Say that Apple takes $20 dollars from ea... moreI continue to not get your point. And I'm not sure even you know what you're talking about. Why are we still talking about Apple and cost and profit.
Let me put it this way: let's say Apple sold 15 million XS Max units. They are making about $400 profit from each one (actually more outside USA). That's about 6 billion in profit. If they are forced to lose 3-4 billion in relocation costs and halted production, then these 3-4 billion bucks won't be a loss Apple will assume even though they can afford it. No, now you have iphones that cost $250 more to the average consumer. After that this very same average consumer goes to Costco or whatever retail store you see fit and buys a pair of Nike shoes, a shirt and some pants and pays 100 bucks more than it cost him/her last month. And the same thing repeat with whatever else he/she buys. How long do you thing the US consumers will be fine with that?
NotAnOpinion, 21 May 2019You are just trying to play both sides of the fence. You of all people should know that no evi... morethis is a very sensitive issue to be discussed in open, i agree with that. but i dont know if you understand me, but what im trying to tell is that so far, i havent read anything substantive, like rulings that definitely condemns the company. all thats circulating now are allegations and cases. again, i did not mean to say that these things must be tackled in public, we should respect the jurisdiction of any court but so far, there on only cases and allegations. so if indeed any rulings are against the company, the questions for proofs would not be controversial at best. so for now, i uphold the idea of innocence until proven guilty.
realitychecker, 21 May 2019well i clearly said, "i havent read anything substantive" meaning i do keep up with those you'... moreYou are just trying to play both sides of the fence. You of all people should know that no evidence or discussions are allowed on an open federal case.
So, why you keep saying that "you haven't read anything" when you of all people should know the reason why such evidence hasn't made its wzy public yet?
kova4a, 21 May 2019Yeah, luckily I leave in Europe or I would be seriously worried right now. And about the big r... moreWhy I'm saying to you is that Walmart hasn't been competitive, innovate, nor convenient in a very long time. It has resulted in store closing years-ago.
It sister stores Sam's Club has been closing up shop for years now.
Walmart is just using this tariff hike as an excuse for its inherently failures over the years just to raise prices.
kova4a, 21 May 2019No one gets you! It doesn't matter how much it costs to Apple to transport it to you local sto... moreYou assume all that $250 is on the device. It is not. Say that Apple takes $20 dollars from each phone. Over 35M iPhones were sold in 1Q/19. Do the math. There goes your so-called R&D, shipping, marketing, labeling, staging, etc. costed.
NotAnOpinion, 21 May 2019And apparently, you are not in America. Walmart hss always been the briwn-noser to China. Many... moreYeah, luckily I leave in Europe or I would be seriously worried right now. And about the big retailers, I'm sorry but you feeling that people aren't shopping that much in Walmart doesn't change the fact that Walmart is still the biggest US retailer according to all sales reports followed by Amazon, Kroger, Costco, Home Depot, Best Buy etc. Like I said id doesn't matter which one we're talking about, all will be raising the prices. Actually, according to financial experts Walmart might be able raise the prices the least
NotAnOpinion, 21 May 2019And as a lawyer, you should know that the FBI has over 20 counts of allegations along with esp... morewell i clearly said, "i havent read anything substantive" meaning i do keep up with those you're talking about. there's allegations yes, but unproven nonetheless, because if it has, its should have been out in any circulations. im not saying the US should present the proof to the media, obviously, what i mean is that if indeed proofs are being presented, up until now and as far i keep up with global news, i havent read anything about the company being guilty as charged because of corroborating evidences that are proven to present facts of its wrongdoing.
kova4a, 21 May 2019You are seriously tripping. Have you read the recent reports? The US citizens will soon be pay... moreAnd apparently, you are not in America. Walmart hss always been the briwn-noser to China. Many Americans has stopped zhopping at Walmart.
News flash, Walmart is not the top dog in many moons ago. Hell, it can't even compete to Instacart now.
realitychecker, 21 May 2019as a lawyer, the law does not operate that way(or at least the law in the country im domiciled... moreAnd as a lawyer, you should know that the FBI has over 20 counts of allegations along with espionage that going to a.... wait for it... FEDERAL JUDGE.
Meaning, unless the FBI is crazy and incompetent, it has to PRESENT its findings ONLY in a court of law.
Not just to the media, shills or fans.
NotAnOpinion, 21 May 2019They would have no choice. It won't be debatable. Either Apple relocates or face sanctions if ... moreAs I have read from other places, Apple will properly have several production line, with one in China and one in other places like India, so as to lower the expenses but still be competitive in both markets. Unless Apple decide to give up the market in China (which is not quite likely at the moment), I don't think Apple will totally retreat from China, yet it will still cause some problem as it is not what President Trump hoped, IMO.
I think honestly, at the end they will come to an agreement anyways...they need each other more than they hate each other. This big fuss is for nothing...just a game for the public...a bone thrown for the voters.
NotAnOpinion, 21 May 2019Let's look at transportation. Do you think Apple, etc. transport one phone at a time or oodles... moreNo one gets you! It doesn't matter how much it costs to Apple to transport it to you local store or to package it or whatever. Any amount that they'll have to pay above what they're currently paying will be added to the retail price. The same goes for most of the other companies. I quote the footwear companies's letter to trump: "... would mean some working American families could pay a nearly 100 percent duty on their shoes. This is unfathomable." More than 100 companies have signed this. They aren't going to carry the load of the trade war, the consumers are. And footwear is just a drop in the ocean. The trade war will affect the US companies in all industries and most of all the consumers.
Stop living in a dream where all the US companies unite and start selling cheap high quality products like a 100 years ago.
kova4a, 21 May 2019They're both the problem. Do you think any big US company, especially Apple, is going to lose ... moreThey would have no choice. It won't be debatable. Either Apple relocates or face sanctions if it came down to it.
Apple would must definitely choose the former.
Very true statement...agree. This playing strong is not good for noone...at the end consumers take the crap while the big boys playing cowboys and shooting in the air....