Anonymous, 23 May 2019Intel is getting a lot of help to become a player - the US courts blocking Qualcomm and US go... moreYou people really have zero clues what you talking about and nothing makes sense. No one cares about Intel, intel out of 5g game, Intel and Qualcomm both american companies, it does not make any sense for USA bring Intel up, which already left rhe market
A good read, I don't think Koh's remedies go far enough. I don't know if there is legal precedent to support, but I think Qualcomm's standards essential patents wrt modems should be vacated.
Jun1250, 24 May 2019*Was literally fasting a couple of hours ago* I'm still feelin' ungratefulI'm fasting right now and I still feel ungrateful
Walter C. Dornez, 24 May 2019Unfortunately, everybody's a critic. We talk bad about others 90% of the time. If we talked ba... more*Was literally fasting a couple of hours ago*
I'm still feelin' ungrateful
Jun1250, 23 May 2019Overall, I think we (as consumers) should just back out from these matters, keep our mouths sh... moreUnfortunately, everybody's a critic. We talk bad about others 90% of the time. If we talked bad about ourselves that much, we might actually be good people
Bewildered, 23 May 2019"The court ruled that Qualcomm must stop its practices of bundling licenses with hardware." ... moreNcely said but i still feel sorry for Qualcomma and Huawei not for US and crapple.
If QC is a monopoly then Google is definitely a monopoly and has to be broken up.
Adul Al Salami Kebab, 23 May 2019Qualcomm has one competitor and that is Huawei... V-VApple is also an equally big competitor, Samsung as well, but Qualcomm probably sells the most chipsets since they export them to other companies
toukale, 23 May 2019It's astonishing the lack of understanding displayed by most posting on this article. I am no... moreQualcomm charging a percentage based on the total cost of the phone is plain robbery. All these posts pointing to Apple hahaha gotta love blind hatred.
How is it fair that theyÂ’re charging more for a feature rich phone compared to an entry level phone when it refers to the same licensing? This verdict is good for consumers and fandroids as usual fail to see this. Clearly comprehension is non existent.
Shadow Snypa786, 23 May 2019If you read the article it mentions Apple. "Many of the indictments were part of a dispute ... moreLMFAO...Oh lord....the delusion. At least you fandroids should respond in context to the article. Why must you always respond like the world and every single company and person is controlled by Â“ evilÂ” Apple?
BigMillions, 23 May 2019If you want to win a case where Apple is a stakeholder, just avoid judge Lucy H. Koh. She's a... moreWas judge Koh also presiding when South Korea found Qualcomm guilty of the same practices?
kova4a, 23 May 2019So now the US has started controlling intellectual property as it sees fit. Qualcomm's technol... moreQualcomm voluntarily submitted its proprietary technology for inclusion in ratified industry standards, and when doing so gave up 'the ability to do what they want' with it. They pledged to license it on FRAND terms, which is what they've been found to violate in South Korea, and now the USA.
Qualcomm knows their value but abusing it to the fullest. Just wait till manufacturer leave the Qualcomm camp.
Walter C. Dornez, 23 May 2019Not to mention they're inadvertently then completely supporting China fully and saying the US ... moreOverall, I think we (as consumers) should just back out from these matters, keep our mouths shut to those who are still unaware. No point in fueling hatred or rebelling against the mobs. Forgive and forget, silence is golden, George Santayana's quote, some other idioms, and again pray for the best
Edit: Maybe not that forget part cuz that contradicts George's quote
Anonymous, 23 May 2019Intel is getting a lot of help to become a player - the US courts blocking Qualcomm and US go... moreUSA is not the only jurisdiction alleging (or already ruling) Qualcomm is illegally abusing its monopoly position.
Jun1250, 23 May 2019Something I don't get: Huawei gets taken down, the whole internet's attacking the stuff that t... moreNot to mention they're inadvertently then completely supporting China fully and saying the US has no reason to worry. Mofo, I don't think you know, but both countries are literally built on foundations of blood and espionage. What happened is wrong, but they shouldn't be completely on one side
Kingslayer, 23 May 2019I'm a Trump supporter and loving the news. This means cheaper Android flagships for now on! We... moreCan tell you're a Trump supporter because you're bloody clueless about who made this decision. It has nothing to do with Trump...at all. Trump on the other hand HAS had a hand in stifling competition and growth in the market by placing a ban on Huawei products. One that will no doubt get over turned within the next 3 months or at least special exceptions imposed because the orange troglodyte hasn't just affected the US market with his idiotic and rash decision, but the global market...and that is quite unacceptable and a LOT of very wealthy people will not be happy.
Kingslayer, 23 May 2019I'm a Trump supporter and loving the news. This means cheaper Android flagships for now on! We... moreIf you want to buy a 500$ smartphone just buy those flagship killers as like mi 9, zenphone 6, one plus 7 ...
You really don't need to spend 1000$ on a smartphone and you will get same performance ( if not better )
Walter C. Dornez, 23 May 2019Apple is not a monopoly thoughSomething I don't get: Huawei gets taken down, the whole internet's attacking the stuff that they're using to attack what they're using
I mean, people once had a choice to support other OS's (e.g. Win Mobile, Tinzen) and ISA's (e.g. x86), but they didn't. Android, iOS and ARM remained relevant, now to be hated. It took a drastic situation for people to finally take interest in change and right now as I see it, the rest of the world is hating on the US. But going back even further, didn't it create the Internet in the first place?
I don't like Huawei getting bullied one bit. I don't get why all had come to this. But in turn of these events the world's also going to hate the US. Just got to keep hoping and praying for the better again I guess
It's astonishing the lack of understanding displayed by most posting on this article. I am not sure if their blind hate for Apple is the caused or they just chose to ignore all facts and just rant about Apple anyway they can. You can't look at all the facts in this case and not come to the same conclusion. Ask yourself why 70%+ of Android devices are using Qualcomm Snapdragon chips? Qualcomm is dominating as a SOC vendor because of their IP in wireless.
It's simple to understand. Qualcomm developed its wireless IP and decided to submit it to be included in the wireless standard. Part of the rules when you do so is to adhere to FRAND otherwise Qualcomm submission would have been rejected by the standard body and no one would use them. Qualcomm got greedy and decided to enter the mobile SOC market. To gain market share they decided to combined their wireless ip with their (SOC) Snapdragon and adopted the policy of "No chip, no license." Meaning if anyone wanted to license only their wireless IP they were forced to also buy Qualcomm's chips otherwise the price was astronomical. So, everyone just buys the bundle, it was cheaper and simpler.
Qualcomm has been doing what Microsoft did in the '90s when they bundled internet explorer with Windows to squashed Netscape. They were using their wireless monopoly to forced their SOC onto everyone else. This would not have been an issue if Qualcomm did not have a SOC business or bundling them. What the judge is saying is simple, Qualcomm needs to unbundle those things and allow folks to license only what they want. Everyone will still need a license, except now they won't be forced into buying the bundle if they don't want to, ex... Apple. Apple has their own SOC chip, therefore don't need Snapdragon chip. Apple should be able to just license Qualcomm wireless IP at FRAND cost without any penalty for not also buying Qualcomm SOC.
This will bring much greater competition in the mobile SOC space and will loosen Qualcomm's hold in the SOC market. It is a good thing, and everyone should applaud her for following and apply the law to the letter. Now maybe someone else will step up and create a decent android wear SOC etc.