Hot Take: Google Stadia Comments
11726- FrozenFire
- 7tW
Markster2018, 16 Jun 2019I don't think you grasp the concept of streaming. Unless you have a metered connection. You no... moreISPs in most countries have data caps. So, your specific case isn't universal. I have a 1TB/month cap. Many others get just a few GB.
Anyways, how is that a reply to my comment?
- Markster2018
- StU
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2019Of course it's highly compressed. The bitrate of 4.375 Mbps (best case scenario @ 35 Mbps, is ... moreCompletey agree. It will be a test on the broadband connection. Still can't see how 35mbps will stream up to 4k60 game. With low latency. Not going to happen in the real world. Then you have bandwidth throttling with certain providers in the UK. So imagine streaming Assasins Creed in 4k then come 6pm. Your connection goes down to 8mbps. Lag lag lag
- Markster2018
- StU
FrozenFire, 09 Jun 2019Okay. They ain't crying about it. Those numbers are just calculation based on recommended s... moreI don't think you grasp the concept of streaming. Unless you have a metered connection. You not actually paying for 9gb or whatever. Its unlimited data. So getting back to the original post. I think it will be good idea. But only for fast broadband areas. So forget Wales and other parts of the UK then lol
- Anonymous
- uuM
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2019Of course it's highly compressed. The bitrate of 4.375 Mbps (best case scenario @ 35 Mbps, is ... moreWhich means quality of 4K streaming will be roughly equal to running 1080p natively.
11726- FrozenFire
- fC{
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2019The main point is not to buy games and can play with potato device in the online. This is DOA ... moreDude... Don't get the service being offered wrong and then blame them. They said they're providing the hardware for high quality gaming, never that they'll pay for all your games.
Anyways, who said you need to pay $10 a month and that the games will all cost $60? You want to lease* a piece of **** and play on low settings? Feel free to.
- Anonymous
- 0p}
ProJames-CHM, 08 Jun 2019Yeah I'm worried about the quality loss. 35Mbps for 4K HDR and 5.1 Surround sound? Must be lag... moreOf course it's highly compressed. The bitrate of 4.375 Mbps (best case scenario @ 35 Mbps, is likely lower due to over-provisioning of bandwidth) is really low for 4K60 footage.
- Anonymous
- vry
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2019There is still time for the mobile gaming to kill of console gaming and maybe even PC gaming. ... moreLook at the type of games trending on google and the kind of people playing video games. As well as the silly microtx type that take advantage of weak minded gamers lol.
- Anonymous
- vry
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2019Why do people have so much trouble understanding this? It's like Netflix for games. Yes you ne... moreCan't send your point across without sweeping statements on the type of people who play video games, eh?
- Anonymous
- ptC
Anonymous, 09 Jun 2019Streaming will never get "there". Latency is the main way to break immersion in games. Delays ... more"It will prolly be wireless and will involve billions satellites"
It's called 5G bud.
- Anonymous
- vry
Samath N8 808 owner, 09 Jun 2019I just hope this won't result in end of conventional gaming and privacy. I'd still like to gam... moreIt won't die. Don't worry. Microsoft is the bigger enemy since these fools keep pushing Windows 10 to us. Which is filled with annoying auto updates.
And Steam with some rogue employees who keep taking down games just because they feel like it.
- Anonymous
- 6jq
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2019There is still time for the mobile gaming to kill of console gaming and maybe even PC gaming. ... moreStreaming will never get "there". Latency is the main way to break immersion in games. Delays is worse of an issue than bad sound/graphics what have you.
Latencies will never go to 0 when playing online because you'd need some supercomputers to compress the image and on top of that come directly to your home without in-between hops. That is not how the Internet was/is designed (to support streaming gaming). All streaming gaming platforms will die unless and until a game specific network which is separate from Internet is developed. It will prolly be wireless and will involve billions satellites so you'd have only one hop between you and the main server, if say your main server is in your country the signal would not have to travel more than 1000 miles, so you'd only lose only 5ms in " travel time", another 5 on the "hop" (the satellite) and another 10 ms on the compression decompression of the image , an additional 1-3 ms from your monitor and another 1-3 ms from your keyboard/controller. So 30 ms total latency.
Google's idea of it already uses 60-200 ms on the hops. It's ridiculous it will never work, have fun basically not having the ability to game above 10-15 (of felt) FPS.... Just ridiculous...
- Anonymous
- 6jq
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2019People was saying smartphone would kill traditional gaming console it didn't happen so same th... moreLatencies are no joke. Online gaming is already problematic, but own accepts the downsides for the sport it offers (competing against other players). Imagine if *everything* was streamed. I have issues with streaming (everything) within my home network, (nvidia shield and stuff) imagine how worse it will be if my game (stream) would have to make 40-50 more hops to reach me... What a ridiculous idea. Google better stay where you have a chance in making difference...
I just hope this won't result in end of conventional gaming and privacy. I'd still like to game on and on on my Windows 7 machine.
I can already see a little delay between input and reaction, in the posted video.
Google can give a satisfactory experience to all by ensuring the below:-
1. Give multiple colour options. If one guy has a weaker internet, he should be served a 16 bit or 12 bit video and not the original 24 bit. More colors means more bandwidth required and this will slow down stuff for slower internet users, probably giving lesser fps or so..
2. Audio stream should be choosable too, right from 64 kbps AAC which is good quality to 320 kbps AAC, which is awesome.
3. In Multiplayer, if multiple users lose internet feed, the game should pause. For example, in a 16 player game, if 3-4 lose internet suddenly or one after another, the game should pause for all, to ensure fairness.
4. Micro-delays can be introduced for the moment when the user isn't sending any input, because it could be due to lag. There should be microsecond delay, that should look seamless.
- Anonymous
- pI@
FrozenFire, 09 Jun 2019You really think Google is incapable of compression? And not everyone will be using mobile dat... moreThe main point is not to buy games and can play with potato device in the online. This is DOA with this type of bs that you need to buy a 60 dollar game and then pay more 10 dollars per month to be able to play the game. Is 120 dollars a year. Leash a decent used PC that can play the games ok on normal or low settings. At least you dont need to pay to play the game you already bought out.
11726- FrozenFire
- 7t{
ProJames-CHM, 09 Jun 2019FHD is still a whopping 9GB. And I have WQHD so it's still going to be more than 10GB per hou... moreYou really think Google is incapable of compression? And not everyone will be using mobile data for it. Moreover, the main point of game streaming is not needing to have high end PCs/Consoles, mobile gameplay is just the additional benefit. Those games aren't designed for such small screens.
8818696- CptPower
- SH3
Paying 10 euros a month and not having even a single game in it is complete waste.
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