Kangal, 28 Jun 2019Yes, the majority of people use these gimmicks everyday. We use the brighter screen, sharper ... moreSays that man who can use all of his phones feature everyday, don't pretend man. You look like a dogshit here. Been using flagship phones for 5 years and I cant use all features on my phone.
Anonymous, 27 Jun 2019Annnnnddddd can you really use all those mentioned gimmicks on day to day usage?? Yes, the majority of people use these gimmicks everyday.
We use the brighter screen, sharper cameras, environmental protection, faster interface etc etc...all of those Quality of Life improvements in a Flagship get used everyday!
The other gimmicks that you're alluding to like "beauty enhancer" on the Selfie Cam, you find those on $150 phones as well as $900 phones. That is not the differentiator. Phones like the 2018 Redmi PocoPhone F1 and the like are NOT flagships, they're better than Midrange devices. So they belong in the "Upper-Midrange" or even "High end" nomenclature, but not in the "Flagship" or "Luxury" categories. I know its arbitrary, but its important to draw these distinctions.
Here's a helpful list I made for you, enjoy!
2019 Flagships/Luxury (better to worse):
.....(best large) Samsung S10+Snapdragon
Huawei Mate20 X
Huawei Mate20 Pro
.....(best medium) LG G8
ZTE Axon10 Pro
Huawei P30 Pro
SONY Xperia 1
.....(best small) Samsung S10e-Snapdragon
.....(honorable mention) OnePlus 7 Pro
2019 Upper Midrange/High end (better to worse):
.....(best large) Nubia RedMagic 3
.....(best medium) Lenovo Z6 Pro
Redmi K20 Pro
Oppo Reno Zoom
.....(best small) Huawei P30
Huawei Mate 20
.....(honorable mention) ASUS ZenFone 6
Xiaomi BlackShark 2
Honor View 20
Xiaomi Mi 9
Honor 20 Pro
2019 Midrange (better to worse):
.....(best large) Vivo Z5x
.....(best medium) Redmi K20
.....(best small) Meizu 16xs
.....(honorable mention) Nokia X71
There's simply too many extra phones to list here
2019 Low-End (better to worse):
Wow, this list is even longer, there's too many for me to go through, sorry : (
2019 Entry Level (better to worse):
PS: The url links are to GSMArena, and the list in the links are not fully complete!
Kangal, 27 Jun 2019Either a Removable Battery or IP68 waterproofing (or both). Either Fast Charging or Wireless ... moreAnnnnnddddd can you really use all those mentioned gimmicks on day to day usage??
Anonymous, 27 Jun 2019And what makes a flagship phone? those nonsense gimmicks?
Either a Removable Battery or IP68 waterproofing (or both).
Either Fast Charging or Wireless trickle charging (or both).
Either a microSD slot or Lots of internal storage (or both).
A Flagship SoC (2019: Exynos 9820, Kirin 980, QSD 855)
An excellent screen overall.
A great camera overall.
A good battery life.
A decent speaker.
And all the other luxuries like NFC, BT5, Wifi5, LTE+, Good Build Quality etc etc
...basically its a device with far fewer compromises than other devices.
Nonsense gimmicks can be found on Flagships, Upper-Midrange, Midrange, and even Low-end phones. A flagship should improve the user experience, for instance, like a display that's easier to read in sunlight, a camera that works better in the dark, etc etc.
A device like the Redmi PocoPhone F1 and Lenovo Z6 Pro are not Flagship devices, they're Upper-Midrange phones. A Samsung S9 and Samsung S10, they're Flagship devices.
androidbrick, 27 Jun 2019You are definitely right but the rest of the world thinks the latest SOC = Flagship.Yeah, it's a difficult task to educate people and cut through all the hype and (flawed/brainwashing marketing).
I mean, as an example, the OnePlus devices for the longest time have been looked at as Flagship/Luxury phones, but they weren't. The only ones that really qualified were the OnePlus One and the (problematic) OnePlus Two, since back then the Flagship phones weren't that great to begin with. They got much better quality control and availability starting with the OnePlus 3, but now the downsides of the device was becoming more apparent: slow USB, poor speakers, poor cameras, no microSD, no IP68 protection etc etc. Since they were now up against much better devices from the likes of the Samsung Note 4-Exynos, LG V20, ZTE Axon 7, LG G6 and the Samsung S7-Exynos.
With that all said, I would classify the OnePlus 7 Pro as a Flagship/Luxury device. It barely makes the cut, not because of the price but since it has some water protection to counter the drawbacks of a sealed-in battery. Whilst also boasting great performance, great screen, good cameras, decent speaker and features, just enough to contend in the segment.
Kangal, 27 Jun 2019A phone is more than just the chipset itself. You can't just slap a Flagship SoC to a Midrang... moreYou are definitely right but the rest of the world thinks the latest SOC = Flagship.
Anonymous, 26 Jun 2019SD 855 is an upper midrange chipset? are you drunk?A phone is more than just the chipset itself.
You can't just slap a Flagship SoC to a Midrange phone and call it a Flagship/Luxury device, that's not how it works. I had this debate so many times now, with people wanting to compare the Redmi PocoPhone F1 to the likes of the Samsung S9 Plus and Apple iPhone X. That is not a fair comparison, the other phones are much better whilst the Redmi is much cheaper.
The Lenovo Z6 Pro is better than most Midrange phones plus it has a Flagship SoC, which makes it an "Upper Midrange" category of device. This is where you have your "flagship killer" devices, excuse the phrase.
Qwerty2019, 26 Jun 2019As long as I have observed Qualcomm's SoC history, their 'true' worth of next-gen data transfe... moreInaccurate. The SD800 was capitalizing on LTE-A. The Snapdragon S4 had LTE.
Kangal, 26 Jun 2019Nope, that would probably go to the iPhone XS Max (if money was no object) or maybe to the Sna... moreAs long as I have observed Qualcomm's SoC history, their 'true' worth of next-gen data transfers comes a year or two after release.
e.g. Snapdragon 800 series are one of the early adopter of 4G tech, which, at that time, was still in the middle of "HSPA hype". Most people are pessimist of the importance of next-gen data transfer being introduced that early.
And, a year or two later, tons of devices are using SD800/801 4G-capable SoC, mostly because it was the most balanced SoC; having powerful CPU, GPU, capable ISP, and excellent modem.
This year's Snapdragon Flagship SoC will be the same;
There will be tons of devices started using this SoC next year, while the early adopters will become cheap enough to compete with late adopters at that time.
Anonymous, 26 Jun 2019the best phone on the marketNope, that would probably go to the iPhone XS Max (if money was no object) or maybe to the Snapdragon version Samsung S10+ Pro/5G. I largely see this phone, along with other 5G phones from this year as irrelevant; we'll get much better/proper 5G-integrated devices next year and we'll see better rollout of 5G services around more markets.
However, just to prove that I'm not blindly bashing this phone, I must say the standard 4G-version of the Lenovo Z6 Pro is very nice. It's one of the best Upper Midrange devices out there (better than the OnePlus 7 imho). And has one of the best value propositions besides the Nubia RedMagic 3. I would say it's barely bested by the elusive ZTE Axon10 Pro, which is the cheapest flagship device out there, and cheaper than a few Upper Midrange devices.
The issue with both the ZTE and Lenovo devices (besides availability) is that there's no guarantee for future support or updates, something you get with the lower-value iPhone, OnePlus, and Samsung competitors.