Anonymous, 17 Feb 2012Not sure about Microsoft's strategy. They claim Tango is to make the phones affordable. But th... moreI'm thinking this move is to get out phones that are in the same segment as Xperia Mini and HTC Wildfire, which represents a quite large number of devices.
The low price is important since there are markets where it's more common to buy phones bundled with a pay as you go/prepaid SIM, which is an option that doesn't work well with phones that cost €300 or more contract free.
I agree that it's a low amount of ram, especially since droids in the segment usually come with 512MB. But then again WP devices are still lower volume, so saving the manufacturers a bit of RAM might be meant to encourage them to put more devices on the market.
This spesificatio ram for cheap wp only. It is for low end nokia lumia 610, the price about us$ 160.
DAN13L, 17 Feb 2012I agree with you except for the negative comments on Android. I have never had an Android phon... moreSamsung has best fit for most of the buyer criteria. few that got to my mind
2. Availability in almost all the possible specifications (more models released per month,an advantage sometimes)
3. User friendly ness, certainly true for beginners, i agree it gets a bit boring once you get familiar with android
4. why do geeks buy, unlocked bootloaders, remember when htc,se or moto did that?
lumia 710 is not a very pricey device,well atleast in india its price is same as htc wildfire s and ericsson live walkman.so with tango phones they can price it around line of nokia 500 or optimus net,galaxy y etc.
Anonymous, 17 Feb 2012Not sure about Microsoft's strategy. They claim Tango is to make the phones affordable. But th... moreWow did you read the article? Do you understand what a low end phone means?
These are restrictions set in place for very low end phones, which will probably be in ye price region of dumb phones, to just get people on the smartphone wagon. The restrictions simply guide app developers for example in knowing which 'tiers' to develop for, rather than deal with fragmentation and individual models from different manufacturers such as is the case with Android at the moment.
Look at it the other way round, if you were a developer today, and wrote an app for Android, how would you write the minimum requirements? A bit of a nightmare right?
With WP7, since it's very clear and quote uniform, if your app had video with bitrate mentioned in the article above for example, you could simply write 'For WP7 phones with 512MB and up'.
if phones running tango cost less than ~180 euro then ok. but i think they won't. and ram is certainly more important than chipsets, gpu's or cpu's...
great deal for manufacturers...
the idea is...
even low end android demands min 512mb ram
which means 20% higher cost than 256mb ram hardware
which means the manufacturers can ship 2million units for the cost of 1million units of handsets with higher specs...
Not sure about Microsoft's strategy. They claim Tango is to make the phones affordable. But the components they use for their devices should not be expensive by now. Snapdragons 1GHZ overclocked to 1.4/1.5 GHz is at least 2 generations old. Same with camera module, how is downgrading to 3MP going to save money when the minimum these days is 5MP? 512MB RAM downgraded to 256MB is going to save how much? The list goes on. The hardware sacrifices to make devices cheaper doesn't make much sense. Something is clearly not right with Microsoft's pricing strategy. I mean looking at the price of the Lumia 710 and Radar, how much cheaper can the devices go? USD50? USD10? USD1? Would be better if they cut the prices of their current generation (i.e. 2nd gen) devices and up the price for their 3rd generation devices (i.e. multi core + 1080p HD).
AnonD-1420, 17 Feb 2012I agree that one of the strengths of Android is that there is such a wide variety of devices, ... more
i quite agree on that. seems WP is following the way of the fruit. which is not bad. i'm an android fanboy but i've got to admit that iOS is the most stable OS ever made. few or nearly no bugs and crashes. the only thing is that it's like japan w/ a close door policy back before americans forced it to open up again. the big question is....will WP be closing it's doors or open it up like android. whatever path WP takes...there will always be downsides and it's up to nokia how to manage those risks.
Get real!, 16 Feb 2012Importing contacts from SIM was possible since the very first release of WP7.
What I would ... moredirect synchronization with Outlook as well as making Contact / Calendar synching over live.com optional.
I agree with you completely.
I really miss active sync support.
And idea of putting contacts and calendar on hotmail just doesn't work for me.
Deanz, 16 Feb 2012Nokia needs more high end phones not more cheap rubbish for poor people to buy every 10 yearsWow, a rubbish phone that lasts ten years. You may not know this, but the majority of the world is poor. Everybody should have the opportunity to participate in the mobile world. Kudos to the company who accomodates them.
AnonD-21645, 16 Feb 2012I think you're right and wrong...
The problem with Winmo is not the technical specs - it's ... moreI agree that one of the strengths of Android is that there is such a wide variety of devices, from 600MHz mini handsets to quad-core convertible tablets. On the other hand, one of the strengths of iPhone/iOS is that there *isn't* a wide variety of devices. One iPhone per year; maybe one iPad per year, and that's it. Consistent experience across all iOS devices.
MS is leaning more towards Apple's path by limiting handset hardware so as to guarantee a consistent experience. I agree that it means super-powerful handsets are just not worth making as the software doesn't support it - but neither Android nor iPhone needed dual-core to be popular.
Why limit vision and creativity? Ask Apple: iOS developers don't need to take a dozen different hardware configurations, screen resolutions, GPUs into account. Same with WP7 apps: one screen resolution, a powerful minimum spec.
Now with Tango, we'll probably have a single "low-spec" specification: a single resolution (say, 640*360); a single SOC; a specific number of buttons.
Mike, 16 Feb 2012What about supporting higher resolution displays? as it is now I am not interested.At some point the human eye won't be able to see the differences in screen res anymore. We will only know it is 'even better' because of tests done by machines or written specs.
hI, 16 Feb 2012Err ever heard of pays as you go.... jeez fanboy war going on here lolYes, actually. If you are sending a photo to someone with a feature phone, MMS is the way to go. Don't assume because you may be able to afford the latest and greatest, that everyone can.
AnonD-23267, 16 Feb 2012Yours is the most logical comment i've read in a while.. Metro UI is one of the best UIs.. And... moreI agree with you except for the negative comments on Android. I have never had an Android phone that lags, yet I only buy the top of the line. I think Samsung Android phones are terrible. I don't know why they are so popular. Samsung UI is terrible. Stock Android is the best. The new Motoblur seem fast. WP7 has a nice UI. They do seem like solid phones but limited features for me right now. I just hate iOS. Boring, lack of Features, iTunes, etc....
So long as the built-in app loadout is comprehensive (and IMHO it is) and the Marketplace makes it obvious when the app won't work on your phone, I reckon cheap Tango phones are going to do well.
Massive nerds like us will grab the higher-end devices; first-time smartphone users, and those moving from S60 etc. will be happy with a cheap, yet serviceable Tango handset.
More importantly: better MMS and app management! Now if only there was a PC application that allowed me to send SMS/MMS... I do miss being able to do that on my Nokia.