KamAbdi, 03 Aug 2019No this is your logic.
Fewer flaws doesn't cut it. Both OSes should now be safer means ZERO F... moreThere are flaws in everything. Nothing is perfect. Everyone would prefer zero flaws. But for what people do have is several OS. Some are more secure and some are less secure.
Ios has a few flaws and isn't 100% secure but android has much more flaws and is less secure than ios. Yes it would be better if there were zero flaws but there isn't. So by comparing one with less flaws and the other with more flaws then one is more secure.
For example, 2 buildings with one door each. Both doors have flaws and aren't fully secure but one door is much more flawed and is less secure. That's the point I'm making.
Android has more features than ios. But ios has some features too. They aren't both the same Bcuz they have features with your way of thinking. But truth is they are not the same feature wise as android has more features. Just like flaws.
Anonymous, 03 Aug 2019The thing is.. Android's fragmentation problem actually serves as a sort of herd security for ... moreI didn't think about this way but your right because it explains why the people still buy Android phones (somehow) because if the Android is that vulnerable, them google would have lost and all the companies wouldn't keep working with them anymore and would have probably made their own OSes.
Also it explains why the developers participate at Google I/O.......
kalel, 01 Aug 2019I don't know why ur in denial. U can't say they are the same when it comes to security when on... moreNo this is your logic.
Fewer flaws doesn't cut it. Both OSes should now be safer means ZERO Flaws. Look at the big picture not on a small piece of it.....
Theses OSes was being developed for 10 years and more so why we can't get a 0 flawed one??? That's the question we suppose to ask.....
You want to say less safer is better meaning small flaws and should let it go which is wrong
Big or less doesn't matter because flaw is a flaw and at anytime you can get hacked easily
You want to justify for Apple and believe their lies...it's up to you but don't say i'm denial or this is a fact just you want to praise Apple because others said so.....
Thank you for the great discussion but I'm done with because this is pointless. You think I'm defending Android. No, I know the Android is flawed but that how open source is and when Apple is bragging about about their security, they have huge flaws, so why brag when you OS isn't that secure and have Zero Flaws. That's what I'm talking about.... A closed sourced and the company only have the authority, codes and secrets and yet it has flaws.
Thank you again but we know Apple is guilty and we need to say that to them no matter other OS is flawed or not. Always the media talk about Google and we know their guilty but when Apple does something, it is WOW and they know their doing even their mistakes are fine.... I hate the people who talk like that....
It's up to you what you want to believe but don't say it is a fact.
I'm sorry if I was rude but it was a nice discussion so thank you and have a great day.
Anonymous, 03 Aug 2019The thing is.. Android's fragmentation problem actually serves as a sort of herd security for ... moreHaha nonsense. That's not how they got hold of celebrity videos and pictures. Celebrities didn't get hacked at all. They were stupid and fell for a scam where they handed in their passwords and security questions on what they thought were legitimate emails wanting their details. Was their own fault handing over details. Try again
kalel, 01 Aug 2019I don't know why ur in denial. U can't say they are the same when it comes to security when on... moreThe thing is.. Android's fragmentation problem actually serves as a sort of herd security for Android.. Because Android system is modified by many manufacturer, chances of a vulnerability to pass through all version of Android OS are very slim.. Whereas Apple's ecosystem once you pass the vulnerability on an iPhone it will work on all those millions of other iPhones regardless of versions or what year it's produced including millions of iPads as they are the same OS.. This is what draws hackers to the Apple ecosystem more because the reward of a breakthrough is very big.. compared to a breakthrough in android that will probably work on just a specific device from a specific manufacturer only.. That is how you get all the stolen video/info leaks from celebrities(they use iPhone right?).. Some hackers might be watching you right now through your iPhone.. Just because you don't have any assets to exploited they just put you on observation only that is why you don't feel anything happening.. Remember, as the news said the one last vulnerability that google found is not yet patched to this very day.. Ha ha ha ha ha.. Spook you
One would wonder what the hell are programmers doing releasing vulnerable apps after so many years.
No OS is 100% secure.
But Apple is making lots of money by offering security. And they did have some security issues latley.
KamAbdi, 01 Aug 2019Dude this is a government agency and whatever the government wants they can do so when they as... moreI don't know why ur in denial. U can't say they are the same when it comes to security when one has so much lesser flaws to the other which is a well known fact.
It's like cars. If one car has lesser flaws than the other then people would feel safer in the car with much lesser flaws obviously and it's the same thing. But then you would say they are the same :D
kalel, 01 Aug 2019Exactly! Fbi had to pay someone 15000 to hack it. Someone who knows how to hack. That's just p... moreDude this is a government agency and whatever the government wants they can do so when they asked Apple politely to open their system or give to them, they didn't mean they couldn't hack but it was they want to abide by the rules, otherwise why would they get warranties to search for a house or a place from the court???? So they can hack if they want to play dirty and brake any company they want.
Infact, how many people the government agencies can recruit??? Criminals hackers who could want their record wiped and start clean and the students who study it and graduate each year all over the US.
Also thats your believe but it is not a fact so don't force it on me because when it comes to both of he OSes, no one is better than the other in terms of security, but one thing could intercession for the Android is that it is an open source which any hacker can do and know it is codes and how to bypass them, but the iOS is a closed source and it has flaws that anyone can hack.
Google youre open source and weaker security.
Google : HOLD OUR RESEARCH
KamAbdi, 31 Jul 2019Exactly...... Your proving my point So every genius who can become hacker can infiltrate Appl... moreExactly! Fbi had to pay someone 15000 to hack it. Someone who knows how to hack. That's just proof it isn't easy to hack ios. Why would they pay 15000 to someone to hack if it was easy. And yes one os is more secure than the other which is a fact. Search everywhere u like and u will find the same conclusion.
kalel, 31 Jul 2019Why don't u check properly. This kid is a genius. Not an ordinary kid who still playing with k... moreExactly...... Your proving my point
So every genius who can become hacker can infiltrate Apple's system, regardless of age.
Also, the ones who have experience for many years can do it.
The FBI brought a normal hacker and give $15,000 and broke Apple's system when they wanted to get information about certain thing so........
kalel, 31 Jul 2019Why u taking it personal like u created android or something? Why don't u research it and figu... moreStill you don't get it buddy!!!!!!!
Listen the truth is no OS is secure. Also the search would say what Apple does for marketing and nothing more. Apple loves to the brag and say their OS is more secure than Android which is completely wrong. Both of them get a lot of flaws. Even if the number of flaws are less than the Android's, doesn't mean it's securer.
The fake and clone apps are normal to happen but why the people download them and don't check first??? Why the people don't stick to the famous apps and stay safer???
Any app that becomes too famous will show itself and then you can download it. Most of the famous apps have a tag says editorial's choice and there comments on the bottom which people write about and rate. Why are the people blind???
I'm not defending Android but what on most people's mind an idea that Android is flawed and iOS is more securer, which is wrong. Don't you and the people know that Google and Apple compete and they will do anything to break that other meaning that they will do campaign to trash each other??? If you understand the term "marketing" and I have seen in it in my own eyes.
Also your the one who is getting defensive and personal because you want me to agree with since most of the people say that.
Also don't twist the term more secure just because the people and the sites say?? most of the sites are paid.
I will tell one thing, if Android is that bad, no company would have used it in their phones, cars and more, otherwise google has to pay them all so they can use them which mean billions and billions and billions of dollars each years which would bankrupt Google. And that's common sense.......
Kriegsherr, 31 Jul 2019True. But as a paying customer someone would surely first look into with who he would get fast... moreBTW, some of the updates make the OS heavy and not needed so when you say I will update my phone for 6 times, then the company putting it so their customers buy a new phone so all the companies does this and I can say the same about the the two year policy that google did on the updates.
Every company wants their phones to be bought every year. so that doesn't matter if you get an iPhone or an android phone because their OSes are sophisticated already.....
KamAbdi, 31 Jul 2019Look sir, you are defending Apple here. Because Google also tests but in the case of testing i... moreWhy don't u check properly. This kid is a genius. Not an ordinary kid who still playing with kids toys
KamAbdi, 31 Jul 2019Well I can say the same about you..... But if you look closely at the term of "secure", you'll... moreWhy u taking it personal like u created android or something? Why don't u research it and figure it out properly? Nobody said ios has zero flaws. It doesn't mean having half a dozen flaws on ios is equal to dozens of flaws on android?
Don't u remember the article a few weeks ago stating that the playstore contains lots of malware and lots of fake and clone apps? That's just one part of it. If u Googled android pie vulnerabilities then u would find dozens and dozens of vulnerabilities in android. Yet it in this article, Google own engineers managed to find 6 vulnerabilities in ios. Just 6 compared to many flaws in android.
That's why it's a well known fact for years that ios is more secure than android. It's common knowledge. Just chill
KamAbdi, 31 Jul 2019Because one company makes on OS on their one product. While Android has many millions of units... moreTrue. But as a paying customer someone would surely first look into with who he would get fast updates, not why he would or why he won't with Android.
Anonymous, 31 Jul 2019Apple invests much more in testing than Google does on Android, that's a fact. And consequentl... moreLook sir, you are defending Apple here. Because Google also tests but in the case of testing if you mean like I will hire a person or a company to show me my flaws and I will later strengthen it, shows Apple does this for marketing purposes because how many years they're testing??? They were testing for 10 years, like when it will be stable of have ZERO flaw???? The term secure means that no by less flaws it means more secure than Android and Apple doesn't secure anything. If a normal hacker says now i will target Apple, he will crush them. Months ago, I was reading a kid hacking them and show their flaw and he is a kid!!!!!! so when a kid is doing that, what do you think about the hackers or the people who have experience on doing that!!!!!
kalel, 31 Jul 2019That's just ur opinion. Nothing is super secure but I don't think android is even close to ios... moreWell I can say the same about you..... But if you look closely at the term of "secure", you'll understand that it means having 0 flaw and so far non of both OSes have that.
Apple brags all the time but still have flaws and Android has it shares so who is better than who in terms of security??? No one. But, I saw an OS called Sailfish which more secure and powerful than both of them.