Vegetaholic, 05 Sep 2019There is no way your laptop 20x time faster than ipad pro with A12X chipset. Your i9 would be ... moreBenchmarks may be higher, but can your iPad run 6 4k monitors? Does your iPad have 64gb of ram? 6tb of storage? Can it run over 50 applications at the same time? Does your iPad have 3gbps storage? Allow remote desktop from anywhere in the world via a smartphone? Benchmarks mean nothing if you can't even utilize 5% of that power. Show me a video of an iPad opening a 2gb pdf with complete ease while running Autocad and chrome and them maybe I'll believe in the benchmarks.
Hello Life, 05 Sep 2019So how does it relate to my comment? Are you delusional.. when did I say my ipad is as powerfu... moreOh yeah good luck blocking an anonymous user with full VPN on. I can't be blocked but nice try.
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2019Okay run that A12x at 100% for 100hrs and tell me how that throttling is. What a joke what your comment has to do with iPad A12x performance lol.
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2019Yeah maybe Apple is hiding something from you, I still find it strange that Apple, a company t... moreApple designed there own Soc aka A Soc and TSMC manufacturing A Soc get your fact right stop comment something if you donÂ’t know.
Nick Tagataka, 05 Sep 2019So you can't read what other people are writing. Understood.You could've use the analogy of vehicles.
A smartphone is a midsized hatch, kind of like your Toyota Corolla, Mazda 3, Hyundai i30, Volkswagen Golf etc etc. Everybody needs a car. A tablet is something like a SUV, nobody really needs it, but it offers some conveniences the hatch doesn't. And lastly you have Windows PC's and these are diesel trucks. There's plenty of people that need it, some that don't. And a car wether it is a hatch or SUV won't suffice.
So while we're at it, generally software is more advanced on x86 systems. You can do more complicated calculations, more calculations each cycle, and generally faster cycles. But it comes at a cost of energy, heat, noise. That's why emulation is always going to be ahead on Windows instead of Android. However, when thinking "pound for pound" modern RISC-based systems like ARM Cortex A-series can run faster and use less energy.
You can attempt to do this by comparing the two, but the unfortunate part is that most Phone SoC's run anywhere from 2W-6W power envelope, generally at 4W-sustained. Whereas x86 chipsets don't punch that low. Unless you go for the legacy Pentium/Celeron CPU which has being miniaturised by Intel in the Atom range with a 14nm lithography. The best on offer is the Atom X7 (Z8750) which runs around 3W-8W range normally. Or their smallest modern part which would be the Core M (8510Y) which runs higher in 4W-11W range. The most advanced emulator you can run on both platforms is the Nintendo Wii, and one of the most demanding titles you can run is Metroid Prime 3, especially when enhanced x2 for 720p resolution. On the Atom SoC bumped up to about 6W you usually get around 35 / 60fps. On the Core M, when undervolted, you get a slightly better 40fps. And on the QSD 855, you get an almost locked 59fps. And a similar trend occurs when emulating lesser consoles like the GameCube, DreamCast, DS, PSP, PS1, N64, DosBox, after which each unit starts hitting 100% fullspeed. However, the Android systems do not currently have an optimised emulator for 3DS, PS2, WiiU, Switch, and PS3.... something the Windows counterparts can more or less brag about supporting. Also Android systems, unlike the Windows options, cannot run AAA-titles from games like Fallout New Vegas all the way to something more modern like Battlefield 1. However, the Windows systems can natively boot Android or even run Android in-emulation, so they can access the plethora of titles there as well.
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2019Okay run that A12x at 100% for 100hrs and tell me how that throttling is. So you can't read what other people are writing. Understood.
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2019Anyone actually in that business is using a dedicated gpu, even a 1050ti absolutely demolished... more"Anyone actually in that business is using a dedicated gpu"
"Why buy a 1200$ i3(A12x) when you can buy a 1500$ i9 with an gtx gpu?"
The same exact reason why you're paying $1000 for phones and even more for ultra compact laptops with mobile U series Intel Core processor - portability and ease of use.
Gaming laptops are cheap because the manufacturers cut corners in every aspect apart from CPU, GPU, amount of RAM and cooling system.
Now, some gaming laptops do have good build, display, audio quality and long lasting battery while also being fairly compact, but they are so expensive that they are literally at the same price range as the newest Macbook Pro 15, which is admittedly very overpriced for the specs you get. For me gaming laptops are absolutely useless because I don't play games.
And finally, A12X is far better than i3. No further argument needed.
Vegetaholic, 05 Sep 2019There is no way your laptop 20x time faster than ipad pro with A12X chipset. Your i9 would be ... moreI absolutely agree with you. Sadly the guy whom you said all that is either a delusional or a troll. He doesnÂ’t believe in geekbench but in his fabricated ideology. I strongly suggest you to report him, as did I and few others. I have already notified the moderators. Few reports will back up the situation.
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2019Anyone actually in that business is using a dedicated gpu, even a 1050ti absolutely demolished... moreBecause you cant take the i9 with rtx everywhere .. even if you can .. it can never be as convenient as an ipad pro with apple pencil. Some people donÂ’t prefer convenience over power and they choose the i9.. fair for them that the option exists. Now some people donÂ’t need that much power but want portability and convenience. Thats why the ipad exists for them. More and more people fall into the latter category as the PC sales are declining year on year. My question to you is, why should a powerful machine cost more than a convenient machine? I mean to make ipad pro, you ned to cram so much technology into a device that is the size of a gaming mouse pad, thinner than your monitor.. and battery that last 4 times as much at full power. Why shouldnt this cost as much.
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2019Yeah maybe Apple is hiding something from you, I still find it strange that Apple, a company t... moreSo how does it relate to my comment? Are you delusional.. when did I say my ipad is as powerful as a pc? Infact i said my ipad is the cheapest budget option.. stop the trolling. I already reported you. If you donÂ’t stop trolling, I will simply block you from this site
Anonymous, 04 Sep 2019The Xbox one s is 1.4 tflops, according to Apple that's how powerful the iPad is, my laptop ge... moreThere is no way your laptop 20x time faster than ipad pro with A12X chipset. Your i9 would be mobile version not i9 9900k levels, so maybe between 50 - 100% faster. My ioad air 3 is on par with top laptop i7 with 4 cores and it is a12 chipset. I compared on same geekbench 5 it with my i7 3740qm and a12 destroyed it in single core and lost by around 5% to multi core. A12x is in another level than a12, so you can imagine how powerful a12x is. In gpu comparison your 2080 will be heavely throttled and it is not same as 2080 desktop too. So mayne up to 3-4 times faster, considering a12x gpu is unmached by any smartphone or tablet and is in different level from a rest. A12x is technological masterpiece considering it runs probably below 10w comparingcto your laptop i9 which is 45-55w and its without your gpu of course, which is another 40 watt.
Nick Tagataka, 05 Sep 2019Photoshop, Lightroom, Affinity... More and more desktop-grade apps are being ported to iPad OS... moreAnyone actually in that business is using a dedicated gpu, even a 1050ti absolutely demolished an iPad cpu in every single field of video/photo editing. Why buy a 1200$ i3(A12x) when you can buy a 1500$ i9 with an gtx gpu?
Nick Tagataka, 05 Sep 2019Did you even read Vegetaholic was saying? He said iPad Pro(=A12X)'s raw performance beats most... moreOkay run that A12x at 100% for 100hrs and tell me how that throttling is.
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2019Snapdragon 855 is 950 g flops and plus is around 1.1 flops Meanwhile Mali g76 mp12 gflops 6... more1tflop is absolute garbage right now considering the highest gpu alone is 110 tflops plus a maxxed out cpu is an additional tflop, compare top of the line mobile cpus to top of the line desktop/laptop grade cpus and gpus and it's not even remotely close of a competition.
Hello Life, 04 Sep 2019You are so fixated on meaningless argument that shows how desperate you are in your life to wi... moreYeah maybe Apple is hiding something from you, I still find it strange that Apple, a company that doesn't manufacture its own cpus is ahead by 2 years of everyone else who does have decades of experience? It's ios it's so lightweight that running a benchmark is easy since it's not doing anything else in the background, tell me can a iPad run 8 apps at the same time on one screen? Or even 200 that my laptop can do if I wanted, can an iPad run 8 4k monitors at 60 fps without issue while running multiple applications at the same time
Nick Tagataka, 05 Sep 2019Photoshop, Lightroom, Affinity... More and more desktop-grade apps are being ported to iPad OS... moreBut wouldn't a cheaper yet powerful laptop equivalent be better at every single one of those apps? Especially with more that 32gb of ram?
Anonymous, 04 Sep 2019The Xbox one s is 1.4 tflops, according to Apple that's how powerful the iPad is, my laptop ge... moreSnapdragon 855 is 950 g flops and plus is around 1.1 flops
Meanwhile Mali g76 mp12 gflops 600 but still seems closer in benchmarks
Anonymous, 04 Sep 2019Ehhh no an iPad isn't even remotely close to an i9 and a rtx 2080, you guys are so blinded by ... moreDid you even read Vegetaholic was saying? He said iPad Pro(=A12X)'s raw performance beats most i7 processors in the market right now, which is absolutely true. On the other hand you're comparing A12X to a CPU & GPU combo that consumes over 25 times more power, of course it's a lot better performance wise. Learn to read contexts.
Anonymous, 05 Sep 2019And what are we suppose to run on an iPad with all that power?
Surface pro allows windows OS ... morePhotoshop, Lightroom, Affinity... More and more desktop-grade apps are being ported to iPad OS, and illustrators, photographers and video editors will be take advantage of its strong raw performance over time.
But the original point I made was that saying A12X is slightly faster than i3 is a huge understatement, so why change the topic?
Nick Tagataka, 04 Sep 2019Are you talking about the first gen iPad Pro that has been released in 2015? Because 2018 iPad... moreAnd what are we suppose to run on an iPad with all that power?
Surface pro allows windows OS which makes it a million times superior than the iPad.