Flashback: the Nokia 808 PureView was from the future Comments
- Anonymous
- LQw
Nokia brought so many stuff to mobile community, unlike those cheap brands with sub-$500 flagships.
- Anonymous
- LQw
ZolaIII, 17 Nov 2019Yes as a fancy name as we know it today. Back in the days they called it super sampling. Never... moreQuadbayer is not fancy name for oversampling.
As I said, Sony created it.
That sensor was made by Toshiba.
If this tech was available back then, it would not be forgotten until 2018.
If that phone had quadbayer, photos would not be 5MP , but 10.
Read anywhere. You going to find that imx600 is the first QB sensor in the market.
- Duck of death
- JGv
ZolaIII, 17 Nov 2019Yes thick (especially on camera place) and heavy but still better laying in hand than any Andr... more...and that is the essence in Nokia's record fast demise. Not understanding the market. What good is "good hand comfort" if it's useless portability-wise?
- Anonymous
- uwj
I hate 'the tragedy of being ahead of time/doing something before it was cool', you get ignored by the cool ones, or made fun of. I recognised the 808's brilliance couldn't buy it at the time. In thanos voice-"i hope they remember you."
Rant->
I really wish hmd becomes more then just a design house, and don't leave hardware r&d on Foxconn etc. (who just use their existing parts/machinery bin). Granted r&d is very expensive. Even a giant like Microsoft didn't have had a successful surface lineup, unless they learned somethings from acquired nokia's hardware & mobile division. Which they slowly dismantled and wrote(throw) off. These dismantled people cobbled up together to make hmd global, i think.
- David Moore
- Tmc
I still have a Nokia 808 and an N9, each was good on its own way.
However after the Android move Nokia (HMD)has failed to produce the phone I expected (under powered), Nokia 9 was not enough so I made the move to Huawei P30.
The p30 is good at the one thing the 808 was bad at, night node.
The focusing is also better.
In daylight the 808 still does very well.
- necropedo
- J1T
EskeRahn, 17 Nov 2019Yup!
(And that expanded to a thickness of about 23mm when the camera was open)I would take ANYTIME a phone with 23 mm thickness if it could gimme 20-30hours of SoT, 16:9 ratio at 7 inch of display.
Today standands at phones are pretty terrible. Disgusting screen ratios, notches, no jacks, etc.
- Ziad Mohamed
- D7y
Amazing article, really goosebumps remembering all that tech stuff, 808 PV will always be a legend, It's the greatest ever till now
Nokia 808 Pureview proud owner!
- ds
- 04S
Anonymous, 17 Nov 2019It is not Quad bayer. Quadbayer was created by Sony. Later copied by Samsung ( Tetracell) a... moresamsung use sony sensor never copy like apple copy and blind customers praise crapple
- Kingslayer
- qWV
When Nokia was still revolutionary with the cameras but nothing else. That's why they lost. Stuck with Symbian for too long and then the fatal mistake hiring Microsoft Trojan Horse, Stephen Elop, to choose Windows Phone over Android.
- ZolaIII
- pp}
Anonymous, 17 Nov 2019It is not Quad bayer.
Quadbayer was created by Sony. Later copied by Samsung ( Tetracell) a... moreYes as a fancy name as we know it today. Back in the days they called it super sampling. Never the less it's a same thing & technique of binning pixels together. Read & take a look:
https://m.dpreview.com/articles/8083837371/review-nokia-808-pureview/2
34332273- Whackcar
- syr
YUKI93, 17 Nov 2019What you did there was explaining the nature of computational photography. PureView devices of... moreThe point is, that at the end of the day, the PureView & modern flagships perform on a similar field (albeit both have their individual strenghts & weeknesses over each other). As a user, we should only care about what we're getting in the end. A great image. Irregardless of whether it was achieved with excellent hardware, or advanced computational photography.
- Anonymous
- LQw
Nokia 808 and 1020 do downsample.
Exactly was later used by Sony with Z series from 20.7 to 8.
- Anonymous
- LQw
ZolaIII, 17 Nov 2019It uses quad Bayer technique the same as new ones. You obviously never sow pictures taken with... moreIt is not Quad bayer.
Quadbayer was created by Sony. Later copied by Samsung ( Tetracell) and Omnivision (4-cell).
Nokia 808 uses sensor from Toshiba.
First Quadbayer sensor sold was imx600 used by P30 Pro.
- Anonymous
- aja
When the 808 came out, it outclassed the competition in camera department by miles, even though it had shortcomings regarding their proprietary OS.
One would be inclined to consider xiaomi mi note 10 similar in that way. However, and this is an objective point of view, one would expect much more from that huge sensor.
808 was years ahead of the competition, while the note 10's rival is just around the corner.
- ZolaIII
- pp}
Whackcar, 17 Nov 2019Some people have misconceptions regarding these Pureviews being better than todays cameraphone... moreOnly post processing got better. If you do that on today hardware & software with photos taken with N808 those will still win.
- ZolaIII
- pp}
Anonymous, 17 Nov 2019You don't seem to understand the 808. Downsampling basically just averages nearby pixels. The ... moreIt uses quad Bayer technique the same as new ones. You obviously never sow pictures taken with N808. Well have a peak on my account.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AXmpRMKcU1qZpj_0hNkf6PecWlyEYo8s/view?usp=drivesdk
Take a good look at her curly hair and the cold beer. What today's flagship can achieve this? Still none.
- wac
- mi7
And then there is a xenon flash, that blows away anything left. Been waiting for this article since forever
67742396- YUKI93
- 0p}
Whackcar, 17 Nov 2019Some people have misconceptions regarding these Pureviews being better than todays cameraphone... moreWhat you did there was explaining the nature of computational photography. PureView devices of old didn't rely on it, there is no such thing back then until the 9 PureView arrived. They only rely on hardware physics to get the job done, and it's little surprise to me why the 808 - and the Lumia 1020 for that matter - can still produce superbly stellar photo to this day. Even Huawei's Leica-co-branded flagship is still nowhere near except for low light and zoom only.
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