Anonymous, 31 Jan 2020Looks promising but I don't believe that Sony will make anything good this time again. Current... moreWhile they're some points for improvements in Xperia Imaging section which I agree with you, there's no doubting the newer Xperia flagship from 2019 on imaging section, especially post-processing and low-light photos, was an over improvement in over a year, from XZ2 to Xperia 1, thanks to Kimio Maki's assistance as Alpha expert (GSMArena proves it)
Shanti Dope, 31 Jan 2020I saw more Sony phones than OnePlus phones here in my country. Fact is, I don't even think the... morePretty sure Sony Mobile has withdrawn from Southeast Asian countries. They don't even get the XZ3. Your sample has to be updated.
Abhi-Darth-Plagueis, 31 Jan 2020I always wonder, why, companies who buy from Sony their camera sensors, implement it so beauti... moreThe most assuring reason was Sony camera division, Alpha didn't want to share its software how-to knowledge to Mobile Division until last year, due to split collaboration between Mobile Division and other Sony divisions on 2011, when Sony and Ericsson break up. They only gave the sensor all the time, with IMX400 stacked-sensor as example without giving another more (software) knowledge to Xperia. It was improved a bit in XZ2, but it wasn't until Xperia 1/5 it bring its potential much better.
It was only when Kenichiro Yoshida took as CEO from 2018 rearranged the collaboration with other divisions to Mobile Division with the help one of Sony Alpha expert, Kimio Maki, to bring 40-70% of Alpha features, specifically software, to Mobile division.
Sony even combining all entertainment, technology and communication into one division as EPS, last year, in collaboration perspective, to bring all EPS division expertise to Xperia.
To be honest, it wasn't a right decision for Sony really cuts the collaboration between Alpha and Mobile...
Shanti Dope, 30 Jan 2020There's this thing called "'Gcam" If you love overprocessed images, then that is the answer t... moreA Sony fan describing HDR+ "overprocessed" is the most ironic thing I've ever seen for a last few years. If I would get this upcoming Xperia one thing I would do immediately after the purchase is to install GCam for more natural JPEG output and superiour RAW image quality.
SuuperBaka, 31 Jan 2020This is the fattest cap. Samsung will never reach Sony when it comes to imaging, specifically ... moreSo that's why Xiaomi is planning to use Samsung's HMX sensor for Mi 10 while their midrange K30 Pro is stuck with IMX686? Oh, and Ksu did specify he was talking about HMX in his post by saying "'That' Samsung main camera".
I always wonder, why, companies who buy from Sony their camera sensors, implement it so beautifully, and Sony, which uses its own special sensors in its phones, manage to f*** up the camera department almost every single time. To me that's bloody astonishing.
Shanti Dope, 31 Jan 2020But there's a GCAM port from the Pixel 3 to both devices. Perhaps unlocking the camera2 api i... moreWith unreliable HDR+ and non-functional Night Sight. It works, but is still very limited in terms of number of features available or app stability compared to GCam ports for other SD devices.
Looks promising but I don't believe that Sony will make anything good this time again. Currently I have an Xperia 5 in my pocket as a daily driver and can say with full confidence that single camera on Pixel 1 does better job that triple on Sony. Camera app is sluggish, photo quality is good enough (for~$500 phone, no more than that) at good light condition only. Focusing system is disappointing, no macro mode, shooting moving objects it very problematic (Galaxy S series sickness).
Isocell 108MP = just binning
Exmor 64MP = 2x2 on chip lens with 100% of frame covered by AF.
Sony makes motion eye sensor. Samsung copied.
Sony makes imx600, imx582 and imx586. Samsung copied quadbayer tech.
Most important markets : China and USA. Both get snapdragon + exmor Galaxy S /Note
Anonymous, 31 Jan 2020Nobody buys Sony phones, there declining sales number are proof of this.
Developer community ... moreI saw more Sony phones than OnePlus phones here in my country. Fact is, I don't even think there's one that uses a OnePlus phone in my region.
Does that mean that OnePlus software community support is also weak?
Shui8, 31 Jan 2020Nope, its not fully working on 1 & 5. Check it on XDA. Funny eventhough it support cameraa... moreBut there's a GCAM port from the Pixel 3 to both devices.
Perhaps unlocking the camera2 api isn't as difficult as it may appear.
Anonymous, 31 Jan 2020You are generalizing all sensors from Sony and comparing them to the ones from Samsung.
I cle... more"HMX/HM1 series from Samsung is better than Sony sensors from past."
You're so funny HAHAHAHAHA
Shui8, 31 Jan 2020Nope, its not fully working on 1 & 5. Check it on XDA. Funny eventhough it support cameraa... moreNobody buys Sony phones, there declining sales number are proof of this.
Developer community support is always better for popular flagships/phones compared to unpopular ones.
Shanti Dope, 30 Jan 2020On the newest 1 and 5, it definitely should
They're the only Xperias right now with unlocked ... moreNope, its not fully working on 1 & 5. Check it on XDA. Funny eventhough it support cameraapi2, it seems limited & no one can crack it out yet.
At the moment it only works using very old GCAM version with no working Pixel HDR, which is useless.
Anonymous, 30 Jan 2020That Samsung main camera is better than any Sony sensor in the past. This is the fattest cap. Samsung will never reach Sony when it comes to imaging, specifically the sensors. That's why Redmi uses Samsung on base model and Sony in pro versions all the time.
Also, you didn't specify sht in ur post.
Shanti Dope, 30 Jan 2020Exactly why Xiaomi put Sony sensors on its flagships instead of Samsung, right?You are generalizing all sensors from Sony and comparing them to the ones from Samsung.
I clearly mentioned that the HMX/HM1 series from Samsung is better than Sony sensors from past.
Anonymous, 30 Jan 2020That Samsung main camera is better than any Sony sensor in the past. Exactly why Xiaomi put Sony sensors on its flagships instead of Samsung, right?