I need flex mode now.. so much nicer to have all the controls at the bottom
DroidBoye, 13 Feb 2020Feelings are the best way to have false positives or false negatives. Smartphone's slomo can b... moreThat's possible too.
But in that case I should have seen flickering on the mobile(IPS) too.
AnonD-754814, 13 Feb 2020Feel is the main thing to measure flickering. If I don't see it I don't care what the instrume... moreFeelings are the best way to have false positives or false negatives. Smartphone's slomo can be used, at least for confirmation of an existing flicker. Your eyes might just be sensitive to the light intensity and not because of flicker.
DroidBoye, 13 Feb 2020"Feel" is just a poor metric for measuring flicker. It's as easy as using your slomo 120 or 24... moreFeel is the main thing to measure flickering. If I don't see it I don't care what the instrument says.
AnonD-754814, 12 Feb 2020Their(notebookcheck) articles are great. They said my laptop screen doesn't flicker but I stil... more"Feel" is just a poor metric for measuring flicker. It's as easy as using your slomo 120 or 240 fps mode in your smartphone to see if your laptop screen does flicker. All OLEDS flicker and is even worse (lower values than 500Hz) than IPS panels with the only exception of the ones with DC dimming enabled. Remember that altering the "flicker" of a non-DC dimmed OLED also alters light intensity, color, and refresh rate. This is the reason why some High-refresh rate OLEDs has a brightness limitation and resorts to lower refresh rate once the brightness is lowered on a pre-determined threshold. IPS panels otherwise does not suffer such issue because the panel and the backlight are independent. Manufacturers can implement an IPS display with DC-dimmed backlight (or PWM with lowest frequency far higher than the 500Hz human threshold) while maintaining the 120Hz or 144Hz refresh-rate at all brightness levels even over boosting the brightness during auto for sunlight legibility with only the battery life as its main consequence and not the panel's lifespan.
And that's how you Flex XD
DroidBoye, 12 Feb 2020Samsung acknowledges the issue themselves that's why they don't make any TVs with OLED as the ... moreTheir(notebookcheck) articles are great. They said my laptop screen doesn't flicker but I still feel it while at under 10% brightness.
May be I'm just a little more sensitive or is it with my vision ?
My vision is better than 15/20 but lower than 10/20.
The backlit for OLED TV is use to make it more bright. Not to stop burn in(though it helps it too). Burn-in will happen no matter what the brightness is if a icon or any thing stays at the same spot much longer time. TV has this issue.. But not the Smartphones. Because Smartphone has no icon unless you play a game which has same scene all the time.
I have seen a phone with flickering issue. An amoled screen. But that was faulty. Honestly speaking I don't have much knowledge on this. But according to my experience Backlit isn't really great for low brightness use.
AnonD-754814, 12 Feb 2020Samsung is always careful about their product. If they didn't care about burn in then They wou... morePretty sure Samsung did not care about burn in when they left my Note 3 with kindergarten candy colored UI that burned the amoled screen.
So much for being careful.
AnonD-754814, 12 Feb 2020Samsung is always careful about their product. If they didn't care about burn in then They wou... moreSamsung acknowledges the issue themselves that's why they don't make any TVs with OLED as the main panel. Their latest research regarding TVs with OLEDs is by using it as a backlight. The good thing about Samsung is that due to their acknowledgement that the burn-in issue exist, they replace burned-in displays for free under warranty, after that, a hefty cost would be needed since the Note 9 for example has digitizer and wireless power for the S-pen embedded on the display, so you're actually replacing lots of parts.
Flickering-wise, if your phone doesn't have DC dimming then your AMOLED would have worst kind of flicker there is. Safe dimming frequency for the eyes should be 500Hz and above, AMOLED (not DC dimmed) would have lower than that, worst some is at 100Hz below. IPS displays have 2kHz and above at lowest brightness, atleast my Pocophone F1 is. The best way to know the frequency of your PWM phone is to search for Notebookcheck articles. They do measure PWM frequency of the backlight using special electronic instruments.
AnonD-754814, 12 Feb 2020Samsung phone has this feature since 2012.Yeah, Samsung were the ones that made the splitscreen popular for Android back then. Google just adapted the feature natively later.
DroidBoye, 12 Feb 2020Just a year of usage or a year of "be careful to not burn-in my screen" kind of usage? Even th... moreSamsung is always careful about their product. If they didn't care about burn in then They would have made OLED Tvs while LG is making OLED TV.
Mobile OLED doesn't suffer as much as like as TV OLED. I have seen one of my relatice using note 2 last year. That display is exactly fine except it turned a little yollowish which was only spotted by me(other 2 person present there couldn't spot that).
Most IPS display suffers flickering issues while at very low brightness which is very important to me(My laptop's brightness is at 10% now while I'm typing this). AMOLED helps to achieve low brightness without any problem.
Is there any list on 'How many features Google has copied from Samsung' ?
Yet some people find pure android much better.
GAMIRSFM, 12 Feb 2020I never got my Note9 an OLED Burn-in after a year of usage, what do you guys do to cause Burn-... moreJust a year of usage or a year of "be careful to not burn-in my screen" kind of usage? Even then, you would have Note 9 with some difficulty of properly rendering true-white full screen content at full brightness. The use case for my own phone is maximum of 4hrs, splitscreen (portrait) Youtube at the top and multitasking at the bottom in the office, with additional 1 hr ride home Google maps usage daily except weekends. I play Youtube for as long as my battery could last while multitasking and never actually thinking of burn-in of the splitscreen bar or my keyboard at the bottom using a phone with IPS panel.
Pretty much useless for non foldable phones
Think you could already split the screen in two to run two apps at ones, before the release of this Galaxy Z or is it just me or not with Samsung phones up until now? I use a LG phone.
GAMIRSFM, 12 Feb 2020I never got my Note9 an OLED Burn-in after a year of usage, what do you guys do to cause Burn-... moreProbably 😂. My tablet is 3 years old and no signs of burn in issues. Only vague yellowish
GAMIRSFM, 12 Feb 2020I never got my Note9 an OLED Burn-in after a year of usage, what do you guys do to cause Burn-... moreI think burn-in in my lumia 650 appeared at least after 2 years of use, coud be more; I had it for 3 years. It was mostly the navigation and notification bars, even though you could make the first disappear, but I also noticed it at the middle of the screen. That being said, split-screen in general might not be a problem, but I used a split screen browser for having lyrics from metalllum at the bottom most of the time, and that is an extremely black website.
dbjungle, 12 Feb 2020What's the use case for this?didnt you read?...some questions are dumb