Shadocx, 23 Feb 2020Well, I don't like Mediatek, Exynos and Kirin SoCs, they always disappoint me in performance a... moreNvidia's soc were killed by...Qualcomm
See European courthouse decision!
Each time someone released a good soc, Qualcomm user the money they earn with patents to sell their counterpart with loss.
They make 600% profits on standard patents OEM are forced to buy them because it's standard.
And reduced soc's price. Profits on soc are under 15%...(2016's results)
Some soc were sold with loss
With that anti competitive système, not only they killed mt6595, Helio X30 or G90 sales...
But they destroy Intel Z3560 and Z3580
They destroy Tegra 4i...
Now with 5g, Qualcomm want mmWave to be a standard even if this isn't able to go through walls or a simple row of trees because only they have patents.
In past Qualcomm try to but NXP for NFC patents and we, europeans, were too stupid to see patents monopoly on this technology...
Thanks god, China cancelled the operation.
Qualcomm is dangerous.
OEM should boycott until they respect FRAND.
Medias should inform properly customers (go on YouTube and look for Reno 3 and Reno 3 Pro reviews...sadly 3 Pro with SD765 represents 90% of the answers when Dimensity 1000L on Reno 3 destroys it)
Qualcomm even infiltrate their former lawers in USA's district of justice.
Post time Mediatek's are as good as Qualcomm's counterparts like P60 vs SD660...
Exception is emulators...devs prefers support monopoly and don't care about Mali or Powervr
Anonymous, 23 Feb 2020You should...
Monopoly are dangerous
Specially in the hand of a company known and condamned ... moreWell, I don't like Mediatek, Exynos and Kirin SoCs, they always disappoint me in performance and I had to sell my phones back, also they should team with Nvidia, PowerVR or AMD for the GPU of their flagship SoCs.
It might be their own fault if Qualcomm has monopoly now.
Shadocx, 22 Feb 2020I don't care at all about what you're saying.You should...
Monopoly are dangerous
Specially in the hand of a company known and condamned for abusive behavior...
It's like giving your keys to thieves
Nair, 21 Feb 2020I dont think anyone in their right mind will buy a realme or Xiaomi device for 50k INR.In india 50k plus budget means iphone nothing else.
Shadocx, 21 Feb 2020Where have I been? Mediatek Dimensity 1000 is using Cortex-A77 like the Snapdragon 865, so why... moreHave fun with an anti competitive company...
This company use standard essentiel patents to kill competitors...
Do companies like Texas Instruments, NVIDIA, Intel, broadcom, st-microelectronics still make soc? No!
Never ever any Snapdragon for me...horrible company...
No matter if they are a little better, if they respect FRAND they probably won't be anymore.
It's easy to be the best if you're a cheater.
For your information, Mali included Opengl ES3.1 or Tesselation before Adreno...
Gusta, 21 Feb 2020Mediatek Dimensity 1000 is trash? Lol.. AFAIK it's faster than SD855+ but below SD865. Where h... moreWhere have I been? Mediatek Dimensity 1000 is using Cortex-A77 like the Snapdragon 865, so why are you telling me it's faster than SD 855+ isn't that sh*t obvious since the SD 855+ has Cortex-A76?
And I know there are benchmarks of Dimensity 1000, and they are below SD 865, you're teaching me nothing.
So you go have fun with your Mediatek and Mali GPU trashes and avoid the useless replies.
I dont think anyone in their right mind will buy a realme or Xiaomi device for 50k INR.
CompactPhones5ever, 20 Feb 2020"the X50 Pro 5G will be priced at (...) around $700"
Indians paying at least $100-200 extra... morexiaomi cut down build quality WHAAAT
do you speak about the mi mix 3 wich is made of ceramic with 18 karat gold and far better specs than the s9+ like in dxomark 105 compared to 99 better display cpu gpu charging speed ... everything it doesn t cut build and price especially for mix or mi but others company increase the price even with inferior hardware
Anonymous, 20 Feb 2020I want Mediatek dimensity 1000 phone.I dont mind the company for the processor as long as bang... moreHope Redmi flagship come with flat AMOLED screen and Mediatek Dimensity 1000 because SD865 is quite expensive and SD855+ / Dimensity 1000 perfomance is still very fast for everyday usage and gaming.
Shadocx, 20 Feb 2020It's cheaper for a reason... Go have fun with your Mediatek and Mali GPU trashes, Snapdragon ... moreMediatek Dimensity 1000 is trash? Lol.. AFAIK it's faster than SD855+ but below SD865. Where have u been dude? There's already the benchmark of Mediatek 1000 (not 1000L).
Anonymous, 20 Feb 2020Just for your information:
SD855+ (Antutu v8: 490000-500000);
Dimnensity 1000 (Antutu v8: 51... moreQualcomm Snapdragon 855+ has about 500 000 Antutu score
Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 has about 575 000 Antutu score
So QS 865 is 15% more powerful than QS 855+ but this far isn't much more - actually it's disappointing. I am 100% sure that there will be practically no difference between using the first one or the second one even on heavy operations like multitasking, gaming, etc...
If QS 865 was made on 6nm or even 5nm architecture it would be significantly faster, more power efficient and a real game changer!
The cost-premium for 5G smartphones is disappearing. A good benchmark is Redmi 30 series. In its base configuration, you have Redmi30 ($240) vs Redmi30-5G ($280). For merely $40, you get 5G and a vastly superior SoC, SD765G. With SD765G, you get better cpu, better gpu, better modem, better thermal efficiency, better AI, better ISP, better everything. (Please note: SD765G >> SD730G > SD730.)
It may very well be a trend in the coming months to see a 5G smartphone priced lower for a 5G market than a 4G equivalent smartphone priced for a 4G market.
Just for your information:
SD855+ (Antutu v8: 490000-500000);
Dimnensity 1000 (Antutu v8: 510000);
Exynos 990 (Antutu v8: 520000);
SD865 (Antutu v8: 560000-580000).
For 2020, the smartphone world has shifted its focus from 4G to 5G, for both phone-makers and chip companies. The phone-makers start their designs with 5G focus, and it will cost them extra to create a 4G equivalent of their 5G-focused phones. It will be difficult for a phone-maker to find a proper new chip to start designing a 4G-focused smartphone for 2020, because all the new interesting chips are designed for 5G smartphones. Even SD865 is basically designed to come with X55 Modem. It costs phone-makers nothing to add x55 modem to a SD865 phone, except for the extra space needed and slightly reduced thermal efficiency. Qualcomm charges virtually nothing for x55 Modem if used on SD865 based smartphones. For Samsung flagship phones, the default chipset will be Exynos 990 and Exynos Modem 5123. There may be cost-incentives for Samsung to offer 4G only S20 series based on Exynos 990 (without Modem 5123), but you will end up with an Exynos 990 based smartphone, if you don't mind.
For 2020, the smartphone world has shifted its focus from 4G to 5G, for both phone-makers and chip companies. The phone-makers start their designs with 5G focus, and it will cost them extra to create a 4G equivalent of their 5G-focused phones. Except for the bottom priced market (
AnonD-914486, 20 Feb 2020It's as expensive as Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro which is way better 5G phone than this sh*t...Xiaomi Mi 10 series are unlikely to be made available in India. The Indian prices for Mi 10 Series would have been much higher than those of Chinese prices, since India does charge import taxes for smartphones.