dazed1, 10 Mar 2020What you talk about is simply not true, show us the much better than ultra, i assure you nothi... moreFrom what I have seen, Huawei had epic zoom. The zoom photos I have seen from the Ultra looked horrible. It's early days though, if what you say is correct, then I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2020Ppl here just jump to conclusions without reading.
The context of the discussion is telephot... moreSo....did Oppo manage to get better Telephoto quality using GCAM compared to P30?
In my opinion, Huawei own image processing already great in low light Auto mode (compare to others), so i dont think GCAM will help much. Its about the hardware setup.
Shui8, 10 Mar 2020'Atleast other phones have gcam which can unlock good low light performance despite the small ... morePpl here just jump to conclusions without reading.
The context of the discussion is telephoto cameras (in low light).
I never mentioned quality of pics from main or Ultrawide sensors since I know they are top notch.
Gcam can be installed on other phones with telephoto camera to fix the default average image quality in low light through telephoto.
We have seen from tests that P30 pro absolutely struggled in low light with TELEPHOTO SENSOR. Only S20 ultra gave great pics thru telephoto in night. The 2x optical sensors on other phones don't even work in low light as manufacturers are simply giving 2x digital zoom crop from main sensor in low light.(OnePlus, IPhone, etc.)
Here the existence of gcam could have improved the otherwise weak quality pics at 5x from telephoto sensor on p30 pro (IN NIGHT TIME). Oppo isn't using a huge sensor for TELEPHOTO either, so it's 5x optical zoom pics will be comparable to S20 ultra and p30 pro in daylight but in night time, it will struggle. But, we can get working gcam on Oppo so image quality in night will be good via gcam. Not so much on Huawei.
Tara S. Kennedy, 10 Mar 2020I don't know what planet you come from but here on earth Huawei cameras are best in the world ... moreRead my comment properly.
Huawei is terrible compared to S20 ultra when you compare telephoto in low light.
You definitely are triggered.
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2020I have no shame in admitting that Galaxy series last year had inferior telephoto camera.
But ... more'Atleast other phones have gcam which can unlock good low light performance despite the small sensor (as they have done on budget devices) But with Huawei, even that's not possible'
Huawei doesnt even need any GCAM, as it uses RYYB with bigger sensor on a flagship since P30 (P20 RGB). It also doesnt even needs any Night Mode to begin with, just Auto can do wonders. - https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/1/18290215/huawei-p30-pro-camera-night-low-light-mode-photos
I can see GCAM goodness in achieving great RAW files for others, but considering Huawei uses RYYB, an advance color correction are needed in RAW processing, which lack in GCAM. So GCAM is useless for Huawei device even if its working.
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2020I have no shame in admitting that Galaxy series last year had inferior telephoto camera. But ... moreI don't know what planet you come from but here on earth Huawei cameras are best in the world and P40 Pro and later Mate 40 Pro will wipe the floor clean with all other phones. No doubt about it.
Shui8, 10 Mar 2020You have to remember, S20 Ultra outdone Huawei (well, not most of it) in telephoto department,... moreI have no shame in admitting that Galaxy series last year had inferior telephoto camera.
But we are currently living in 2020, not in 2019.
But other users certainly have a problem in admitting that their beloved Huawei will perform worse in low light coz the telephoto sensor is small(most likely this year too).
Atleast other phones have gcam which can unlock good low light performance despite the small sensor (as they have done on budget devices) But with Huawei, even that's not possible.
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2020Blah blah, no amount of image processing from Kirin 990 will fix the garbage low light output ... moreYou have to remember, S20 Ultra outdone Huawei (well, not most of it) in telephoto department, a year later.
That means u just admit how more garbage telephoto lens that Samsung provide last year.
And gave feedback about a phone thats not even out yet, well, its just pure childish.
As for me, I dont care about any periscope camera zooming. Beyond x5 zoom (125mm) is not my type of photography. A high quality 28-85mm is. (1x - 3x zoom).
Nick Tagataka, 10 Mar 2020And I specifically mentioned how having longer focal length negates the sensor size disadvanta... moreBlah blah, no amount of image processing from Kirin 990 will fix the garbage low light output from telephoto lens if the sensor is small like last year.
Kristo Radion, 10 Mar 2020not everyone is like you, photo-minded guy. i'm happy with an everyday-carry point-and-shot-camera..Of course you can say that, since people like you would only upload photos on social media sites. Not me.
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2020Oh yeah, I specifically mentioned how, the image quality will be garbage in low light.
In day... moreAnd I specifically mentioned how having longer focal length negates the sensor size disadvantage hence implied that it will NOT struggle in low light as much as you think it will. One more thing to add, Kirin 990 is substantially better at handling noise and retaining sharper details in poorly lit environment than P30 Pro's K980 and this applies to the telephoto lens as well. So just in case if you're considering to bring up P30 Pro as a reference, well it wouldn't be that helpful.
In daytime, P40 Pro will most likely have an upper hand in terms of overall zoom performance: Better digital zoom between 1x and 2.9x, the primary medium range telephoto lens guaranteeing its superiority up to 3.9x, and the secondary extreme long range telephoto lens that helps it regain the advantage in detail from 10x.
Now some may say S20 Ultra can offer better image between 4x and 9.9x, but this is P30 Pro zoom argument all over again - Is having one long range telephoto automatically make the phone superiour to others with shorter telephoto lenses when it comes zoom capability? To me, it's a no. In fact I still think my regular P30 (2x super res, 3x telephoto) takes more balanced therefore more practical approach towards zoom compared to the Pro variant simply because I shoot photos at 1x, 2x and 3x far more often than any longer zoom lengths on my phones.
YUKI93, 10 Mar 20201/1.28" sensor? I can guarantee seeing a 1" sensor coming back again after the Panasonic Lumix... morenot everyone is like you, photo-minded guy. i'm happy with an everyday-carry point-and-shot-camera..
vrvly, 10 Mar 2020Chicken wouldn't agree.If you are not going to acknowledge that the sun is gonna burn earth to a crisp then we have nothing more to talk about.
Tara S. Kennedy, 10 Mar 2020Well, I like chicken and chocolate, so what do you think?Chicken wouldn't agree.
tokyojerry, 10 Mar 2020It depends on your use case scenario. If you buy a smartphone primarily just for the phone fu... moreYes, I buy flagship phones primarily for the best camera system possible at the moment. Three other important things for me are battery life, speakers and screen quality. Good design is what I'm looking for too. Google services / apps are a must for me as well because I use them every day and don't want to be bothered to sideload them somehow on $1000 phone. Other things like RAM amount, storage size, UFS 2.1 or 3.0, 90Hz or higher frequency screen, notch, blazing fast performance etc are of my least concerns. I wish Huawei all the best but personally I think they will never recover from this ban ordeal. Americans know exactly how to destroy someone or turns someones life / business into hell :).
Anonymous, 09 Mar 2020your attention please, leak from chinese insider:
towards the end of this year be or early ... moreNot a leak per Seh
Qualcomm already announced at their Snapdragon 865 event that it supports 200mp cameras and that one was coming, they were keen to stress that 200mp cameras aren't vaporware...
But people don't listen to this live launches anyways soo..
Peachy001, 09 Mar 2020In stills, possibly. Gotta be honest, some of the zoom samples I saw from Huawei devices were ... moreWhat you talk about is simply not true, show us the much better than ultra, i assure you nothing touches Ultra in zoom, stop with this fantasy.
VectorR, 10 Mar 2020New Huawei flagships are certainly very interesting and cool. The only serious issue with them... moreIt depends on your use case scenario. If you buy a smartphone primarily just for the phone function (sarcasm intended) and the camera module with all it's capabilities and features, all the other functionality tags along for the ride (to include the lack of Google Play Services). It's not like you can not use apps at all, just not Google's ecosystem. Huawei is going to make a comeback. And when they do, the U.S. will regret it.