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Huawei P40 Pro will have two cams with large Sony sensors, plus two zoom cameras Comments

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  • 09 Mar 2020

Anonymous, 09 Mar 2020Sony Semicon decided to make public the 1" used by few compacts like Canon point and shoot. An... moreThe argument doesn't make sense. The Rx100 has a zoom lens and a mechanical shutter, nearly all phones have prime lenses and an electronic shutter. Furthermore the Xiaomi Note 10 is equivalent to a 115mm² sensor with f/2.2 OIS lens. And the focal length and image circle radius of the lens would be only 30% higher.

Furthermore a large sensor alone has nothing to do with good image quality. A larger sensor only means that more light can be captured at base Iso (only perfect light conditions). In low-light conditions it's useless when the effective aperture diameter of the lens is small. A 40mm² sensor with a lens that has a 3.0mm effective aperture diameter captures approximately the same amount of light per time as a 864mm² sensor with a lens that has the same 3.0mm effective aperture diameter and same field of view.
Moreover image processing is much more important. Already years ago smartphones like the Google Nexus 5x in HDR+ On mode outperformed full frame cameras when it comes to the visible jpg dynamic range of the scene.

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    • LQu
    • 09 Mar 2020

    Anonymous, 09 Mar 2020Haha no word on the sensor size of the 10x telephoto lens which means it will struggle in low ... more8MP 1/4"

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      • Anonymous
      • KSu
      • 09 Mar 2020

      SpiritWolf, 09 Mar 2020How's Apple impressive? I just sends orders to Chinese companies and they deliver. Actually Apple hasn't been impressive in the last 5 years.
      Merely playing catchup.

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        • m@2
        • 09 Mar 2020

        AnonD-558092, 09 Mar 2020Was the sensor designed by Huawei or Sony? The answer to this question will also answer who ri... moreDunno about this sensor but P30Pro sensor was definitely designed by Huawei.

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          • m@2
          • 09 Mar 2020

          AnonD-558092, 09 Mar 2020How is Huawei impressive? Isn't Sony doing the hard work here? Huawei merely placed an order a... moreHow's Apple impressive? I just sends orders to Chinese companies and they deliver.

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            • Anonymous
            • KSu
            • 09 Mar 2020

            Baretta, 09 Mar 2020Before i jumpin on the bandwagon, quick question; Will Huawei P40 Pro have unlocked bootloader?No it won't.
            Huawei won't be allowing users to unlock their bootloader like other manufacturers.
            This is indeed a dealbreaker for me. I was going to wait for the Mate 30 pro. But after Huawei started locking bootloaders, I grabbed another flagship.

            Their phones are overall great and lack of Google Play services which isn't a big deal especially with the workaround solutions. But the lack of bootloader unlocking is a huge dealbreaker.

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              • SpiritWolf
              • m@2
              • 09 Mar 2020

              M, 09 Mar 2020Useless without gapps.Like all the IPhones, right?

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                • IaJ
                • 09 Mar 2020

                Anonymous, 09 Mar 2020Tell me one APSC, Full Frame or Medium Format that offers heavily overprocessed HDR fake looki... moreSays the guy who never bothered to tweak with hdr settings or profiles.
                Says the guy who constantly whines about lower bitrates during video recording while absolutely refusing to use third party apps for the same.

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                  • 09 Mar 2020

                  Anonymous, 09 Mar 2020No 3.25MP mode. It is for night 1080p videos. If 8MP is not enough, why would someone use... moreThe resultant 1080p footage will have a lot of artifacts with 16 to 1 pixel binning when the hardware is only capable of 4 to 1.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • KSu
                    • 09 Mar 2020

                    Haha no word on the sensor size of the 10x telephoto lens which means it will struggle in low light this year too.

                    Mark my words, there wouldn't be much difference between 10x hybrid optical from S20 ultra and 10x optical from P40 Pro.

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                      • Anonymous
                      • EBV
                      • 09 Mar 2020

                      The only thing it's missing is a Google Play Store app. Too bad.

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                        • 09 Mar 2020

                        PepperPot, 09 Mar 2020Huawei's flagship isn't even the top selling flagship in China. That title goes to Oppo. A nam... morehow about no! check marketshare in china before commenting please. Top selling phone in china is oppo A5, which IS NOT A FLAGSHIP,

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                          • Suga
                          • NsB
                          • 09 Mar 2020

                          They're all no longer in the phone business. They're selling cameras that have the ability to make a call, send a message and use social media

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                            • Yonef
                            • nq6
                            • 09 Mar 2020

                            Why the heck adding more cameras to phone will make it better?
                            https://imgur.com/gallery/ifIGKKD

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                              • 09 Mar 2020

                              AnonD-558092, 09 Mar 2020Was the sensor designed by Huawei or Sony? The answer to this question will also answer who ri... moreA13 Bionic chips are designed by Apple and manufactured by TSMC.
                              Sony manufactures the sensor.

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                                • 09 Mar 2020

                                AnonD-914443, 09 Mar 2020I need only 1 inches camera sensor not less than that.Then buy a camera ffs.

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                                  • 09 Mar 2020

                                  AnonD-914443, 09 Mar 2020I need only 1 inches camera sensor not less than that.Sony Semicon decided to make public the 1" used by few compacts like Canon point and shoot. Any OEM interested can buy.

                                  But the issue is size of module. Sensor is 61% larger than Isocell HM1/HMX.
                                  Also lenses get larger too in size and space between them.

                                  Look at Sony RX100 VII. It has f2.8 - f4.5 ...
                                  Module is too huge for a phone.
                                  No way phone could have bigger than f5.

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                                    • AnonD-914443
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                                    • 09 Mar 2020

                                    I need only 1 inches camera sensor not less than that.

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                                      • iRM
                                      • 09 Mar 2020

                                      Huawei's flagship isn't even the top selling flagship in China. That title goes to Oppo. A name that was chosen because it sounds similar to Apple when you pronounce it. Who knew? And the recent Oppo flagship fills the spec sheet as much as any flagship. Bottom line is none of the top phones are miles ahead of each other in the camera dept. They are all very good cameras so Huawei is not taking the flagship crown away from anyone based on its camera unless it can determine if you have a disease.

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                                        • 09 Mar 2020

                                        The Last Oracle, 09 Mar 2020And yet Sony's own smartphone cameras are mediocre, at best. Sensors + lenses + other hardware... moreTell me one APSC, Full Frame or Medium Format that offers heavily overprocessed HDR fake looking too artificial photos like Galaxy and Iphone.

                                        Oh, there is none. Oooooooop !!!!

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