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Oppo Find X2 promo video shows the advantages of Omni-Directional AF over Dual Pixel AF Comments

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  • Shanti Dope
  • C9a
  • 10 Mar 2020

Whackcar, 10 Mar 2020Dual-Pixel is excellent for photography, but it's limitations become apparent in videography. ... moreDual Pixel PDAF is hardware-level, so it works for both photos and videos. That's why there are video tests for phones with this technology and majority of them showcase great focusing speed and accuracy as expected from Dual Pixel PDAF.

This new Omni-Directional AF is basically Dual Pixel PDAF, but is more inclined towards Quad Bayer sensors, as Dual Pixel PDAF is only for normal Bayer sensors.

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    • Anonymous
    • C9a
    • 10 Mar 2020

    Anonymous, 10 Mar 2020I think Quadbayer sensors have slower readout compared to Bayer. The biggest strength of A9 ... moreIndeed, and it's mainly due to the shear resolution. How can the sensor keep up with great focusing speed and accuracy if tiny 0.8 um pixels are set as focusing agents? Even if they can, not all of them can be set that way, as it would cause overload of information, and the focus would be all over the place.

    Sony A9 has amazing focusing capabilities due to its memory-stacked sensor, plus its software magic, which performs up to 20 AF/AE calculations per second, making the focus even faster and more accurate compared to normal Dual Pixel PDAF.

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      • NBMSCH
      • Nwa
      • 10 Mar 2020

      Anonymous, 10 Mar 2020Xperia 1ii is dual pixel. It uses same imx555 found on snapdragon version of s20/20+. but with way faster autofocus, and burst that no other smartphone has except Xperia 1 II:
      Up to 20 fps AF / AE, Up to 60 times per second continuous AF/AE calculation, Real-time Eye AF for humans and animals, Dual photo diode

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        • AnonD-754814
        • uNV
        • 10 Mar 2020

        Whackcar, 10 Mar 2020Your ignorance is saddening. ODAF (Omni-Directional Auto-Focus) is clearly better than Dual... moreThe oppo x2 is released new this year. Why don't you wait and see what Samsung's S20+ dual pixel AF does. And I don't believe chinese brand's advertisements.
        And for god's sake , improve your behavior.

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          • Whackcar
          • 6i$
          • 10 Mar 2020

          AnonD-754814, 10 Mar 2020Did you hit your head somewhere ? Dual Pixel autofocus is better while capturing video. Your ignorance is saddening.

          ODAF (Omni-Directional Auto-Focus) is clearly better than Dual-Pixel in every single scenario. Oppo's promotional video clearly demonstrates the advantage of ODAF over Dual-Pixel AF.

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            • AnonD-754814
            • uNV
            • 10 Mar 2020

            Anonymous, 10 Mar 2020Xperia 1ii is dual pixel. It uses same imx555 found on snapdragon version of s20/20+. Also same dual pixel AF used in Galaxy S7.

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              • AnonD-754814
              • uNV
              • 10 Mar 2020

              FapPhone, 10 Mar 2020Best phones which tend to underperform with its Exynos chipset. Throttles too quickly, has poo... moreAt least Exynos is better than Chinese Kirin.
              And previously Both ISOCELL and Sony sensors performed same.
              So stop lying.
              Also I'm guessing Samsung used all ISOCELL (sd and exynos) for S series.

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                • AnonD-754814
                • uNV
                • 10 Mar 2020

                Whackcar, 10 Mar 2020Dual-Pixel is excellent for photography, but it's limitations become apparent in videography. ... moreDid you hit your head somewhere ?
                Dual Pixel autofocus is better while capturing video.

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                  • FapPhone
                  • xZI
                  • 10 Mar 2020

                  Pepo, 10 Mar 2020all those Chinese phones having great cameras has always had problems with videos...always...I... moreBest phones which tend to underperform with its Exynos chipset. Throttles too quickly, has poor battery life, and worse camera performance than its rivals. S20 Ultra is also overpriced and overhyped.

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                    • vrvly
                    • g5f
                    • 10 Mar 2020

                    Best of Sony(camera), Nokia(audio),Samsung(screen)... in Oppo. good good

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                      • Pepo
                      • 3TC
                      • 10 Mar 2020

                      all those Chinese phones having great cameras has always had problems with videos...always...I dont get that...thats why I always stick to Samsung...best phone overall in every category

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                        • AnonD-754814
                        • uNV
                        • 10 Mar 2020

                        Anonymous, 10 Mar 2020Software has huge impact on AF. Sony Alpha use Hybrid (PDAF + CDAF) and put to shame the Cano... moreFor video Dual pixel autofocus is better. For still image Laser Autofocus is the best. So, where does that leave the Hybrid autofocus from Sony ?
                        Nowhere.

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                          • Whackcar
                          • 6i$
                          • 10 Mar 2020

                          Dual-Pixel is excellent for photography, but it's limitations become apparent in videography. This ODAF seems to provide excellent focusing in both mediums, hence being truly impressive.

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                            • Anonymous
                            • LQu
                            • 10 Mar 2020

                            While Sony creates this, Samsung sensors do binning.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • LQu
                              • 10 Mar 2020

                              Shanti Dope, 10 Mar 2020But this, added with 60 AF/AE calculations per second (like on Xperia 1 Mk II), would make up ... moreI think Quadbayer sensors have slower readout compared to Bayer.
                              The biggest strength of A9 series is real time tracking.

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                                • uk7866
                                • amg
                                • 10 Mar 2020

                                Impressive piece of tech

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                                  • Shanti Dope
                                  • C9a
                                  • 10 Mar 2020

                                  But this, added with 60 AF/AE calculations per second (like on Xperia 1 Mk II), would make up for such a focusing demon that could rival the focusing speed and accuracy of high-end digital cameras like the Sony A9.

                                  Essentially, this is what Samsung should've done for the S20 Ultra to compensate for its relatively slow focusing times on the main camera, but it only goes to show how much more they could learn from their peer competitors. It was a good attempt, nonetheless, but definitely not the most polished thing ever.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • LQu
                                    • 10 Mar 2020

                                    NBMSCH, 10 Mar 2020Xperia 1ll has this technology and also with way faster auto focus and burst. ONLY XPERIA HAS IT Xperia 1ii is dual pixel.
                                    It uses same imx555 found on snapdragon version of s20/20+.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • LQu
                                      • 10 Mar 2020

                                      Software has huge impact on AF.
                                      Sony Alpha use Hybrid (PDAF + CDAF) and put to shame the Canon's Dual Pixel.
                                      The $600 a6100 is far faster than $1800 EOS R.
                                      Even Nikon Z6 with just Phase Detection neats EOS R.

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                                        • NBMSCH
                                        • Nwa
                                        • 10 Mar 2020

                                        Xperia 1ll has this technology and also with way faster auto focus and burst. ONLY XPERIA HAS IT

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