Flashback: the headphone jack has been around for over 100 years, still has a place on phones Comments
- Pabliell
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ProJames-CHM, 15 Mar 2020How dare you. Manufacturers cared for the headphone jack. So much in fact that they monetized ... moreNo one will ever beat Essential. Their phone didn't have the essential headphone jack, but later on they made it a module, for like $100.
- Pabliell
- mN{
PartTimePhoner, 15 Mar 2020People didnt. Iphones sold well enough didnt they?Forget Apple. Their fans would even buy Cook's iPoop.
Remember the backlash Motorola had with first Moto Z? Or Xiaomi with Mi 6? Or even the Essential Phone?
Still, in few years, when wireless headphones will be good and cheap, much less people will care for the headphone jack.
- ProJames-CHM
- Yd6
Pabliell, 15 Mar 2020People cared. Manufacturers didn't.How dare you. Manufacturers cared for the headphone jack. So much in fact that they monetized it as a dongle.
- PartTimePhoner
- 3xw
Pabliell, 15 Mar 2020People cared. Manufacturers didn't.People didnt. Iphones sold well enough didnt they?
- Pabliell
- mN{
PartTimePhoner, 15 Mar 2020Because the targeted audience didnt care. Low-end buyer audience will care though.People cared. Manufacturers didn't.
- ProJames-CHM
- Yd6
WazzaG, 15 Mar 2020I just save for my stuff. I'm not prepared to stay with a wired connection to my phone, I'm mo... moreAre there really people who keep their phones in their wallets? That's just plain dumb. And inconvenient. Or you meant those wallet cases? Those are also fairly dumb. No need for wires to be a target though. If you see a fat rectangle protruding through a pocket, you know that's a phone and a wallet. Thieves will know what to do henceforth. In fact having wired headphones would help prevent this. As soon as the guy steals your phone, your wired headphones would disconnect or you'd be pulled with them. But with wired headphones, your music would continue for at least three meters, giving that much headstart to the thief.
- PartTimePhoner
- 3xw
Pabliell, 15 Mar 2020After some time all manufacturers would do the same. Just as we see now in mainstream flagships. Because the targeted audience didnt care. Low-end buyer audience will care though.
- Pabliell
- mN{
PartTimePhoner, 15 Mar 2020I think it would make people go for other brands who kept the audio jackAfter some time all manufacturers would do the same. Just as we see now in mainstream flagships.
- PartTimePhoner
- gCx
WazzaG, 15 Mar 2020No. I just move with the times. I'm quite happy to save up, spend my cash carefully on good... moreWell yeah obviously same for you. You spending 3x more for worse sounding headphones doesnt hurt me in any ways whatsoever.
- ProJames-CHM
- Yd6
Abhi-Darth-Plagueis, 15 Mar 2020Ain't no piece of crap TWS buds can stand in front of wired audio, when it comes to quality an... moreThe S5 is 8mm thin and has a jack, waterproofing and a removable battery. That was a time where looks were a mere afterthought. I'm 1000% sure anyone could bring back a flagship with all the bells and whistles (except pop-up selfie cams maybe) and all the essentials if they wanted to.
- ProJames-CHM
- Yd6
Abhi-Darth-Plagueis, 15 Mar 2020Not necessarily, I mean there are other, less powerful implementation of GPU architectures whi... moreMeh, maybe. It's just that mobile GPUs have increased in power efficiency at a drastic pace. A GTX 1050 still gobbles up tons of energy for a phone. "Efficient" laptop gaming hardware still has a TDP well above 100W for entry level laptops, the GPU being the bulk of that (Intel H and HQ hardware is made for 45W). Maybe you meant something closer to the Tegra X1/X1+ (the 16nm die shrink in the -01 Switch and the Shield 2019) and maybe an upgraded GPU based on Pascal rather than Maxwell. To which I say is actually doable.
But as you say, phone gaming is now firmly into freemium and Pay-2-Win territory. A lazy and lucrative business they won't give up no matter what. And usually people are happy with it. Having better graphics won't make them publish higher quality games
- WazzaG
- dUS
PartTimePhoner, 15 Mar 2020If thats really your reasoning you have gone nuts mateNo. I just move with the times.
I'm quite happy to save up, spend my cash carefully on good stuff, I try before I buy where possible.
I'm more than happy to see the end of wired connections and technological stone age stuff. Most of my stuff is stored on a PC,tablet and my phone, each requiring a different 16 digit passcode to gain access to. PC can be unlocked using a fingerprint scanner or smart card.
The PCs hard drive is encrypted to 256-bit, which is backed up by a hard drive and cloud drive. Tablet and (phone will be) is set to be erased remotely. Like I said I'm moving on.
You can stay with your silly corded headphones and earphones. I'll go wireless.
- PartTimePhoner
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WazzaG, 15 Mar 2020I just save for my stuff. I'm not prepared to stay with a wired connection to my phone, I'm mo... moreIf thats really your reasoning you have gone nuts mate
- PartTimePhoner
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Pabliell, 15 Mar 2020I know that, but think about it differently. This would force people into buying more expensiv... moreI think it would make people go for other brands who kept the audio jack
- WazzaG
- dUS
PartTimePhoner, 15 Mar 2020Living in the technological stone age would be insisting on old tech like using those sliding ... moreI just save for my stuff. I'm not prepared to stay with a wired connection to my phone, I'm moving on.
What makes me chuckle is that people still wander around with the wired connection to a phone, in a foldable wallet with all their cards in, that's travelcard (Oyster), Driving Licence, Bank and Credit Cards in.
Any thief who knows pretty well what the cord is going to is going to hit the jackpot with a quick snatch. Wireless earphones and headphones don't show where it is, it can in in your jacket, bag or under a cap.
- Pabliell
- mN{
PartTimePhoner, 15 Mar 2020Look kid those who bought $200 smartphones aint gonna buy $100 headphones. But if someone paid... moreI know that, but think about it differently. This would force people into buying more expensive phones instead, if they want more features. And higher price would be somewhat justified, because that would imply more features.
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- wrX
PartTimePhoner, 15 Mar 2020You dont benefit from having it removed. But you do lose options.
Why even go for somethin... moreIt should've been a sarcasm for those who demand for the removal of 3.5mm jack because they want a newer tech.
But now that i've read my comment again, it can interpreted both as offending thos who defend the 3.5mm jack and for those who demand for the removal of 3.5mm jack :\.
I've been using my "modified" M40x switching from my laptop and my phones if there's a phone call. I myself never considering fully switching to wireless headphones, and even considering my equipment to a better gear.
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- ptP
ProJames-CHM, 15 Mar 2020Haha lol. Though in reality it would never work. Whoever plays games on a phone and not on a S... moreYeah cooling is the main issue. Can't fit too much metal in a phone for cooling. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a "gaming" phone with a gpu dock. Probably without a headphone jack aswell, which would make competitive games really awkward with that bluetooth latency. I wish these useless trends would stop :/
AnonD-908380, 15 Mar 2020Don't give them ideas pls xD. Imagine you forgot your gpu mod at home and your phone can't dis... moreHaha.
I guess Intel route of having a small, integrated one would save the day, for potential blunders like that.
I was just speculating for demanding, powerful games (by mobile standards) anyway.
:D
Ain't no piece of crap TWS buds can stand in front of wired audio, when it comes to quality and latency.
But it's more of the same PR bulls**t those greedy corporate types pulled with removable batteries and 'compromised waterproofing' lies.
JerryRigEverything proved that there's always space inside for good ol' 3.5 mm jack.
TWS and everything else wireless is cool and all - I mean we're talking about phones here, the biggest win for wireless technology. But the trade-off for explicit Bluetooth Audio simply isn't there; quality, price, charging convenience, latency - you name it. Moreover, forcing that choice down consumer's throat is plain evil.
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