i own oppo reno 10x zoom. Can you help unlock bootloader for that ? we are group of people, a community and we are struggling. we cant downgrade too if wrong update was pushed. if possible show me some way to this.
Flgshp2020, 19 Mar 2020Only few allow bootloader unlocking? What are you talking about?
Which other company apart fr... moreFirst of all, let's establish some facts:
There is around 20 Major OEMs (including sub-brands) that make phones.
On average there are a couple dozen device models released.
Each year, there are hundreds of new Android devices released.
All Android devices are sold with a Locked Bootloader (which is good).
To unlock the bootloader, you can use the Standard ADB and Fastboot commands.
Vast Majority of devices have OEM Firmware, which have altered this protocol.
Some OEMs allow you to do download a tool, or a code, for this altered protocol.
Some of those OEMs have stupid requirements (signing up to services, waiting several weeks, etc etc).
Most of those unlocking tools only work on few models.
All of them void your warranty, in some cases that is actually illegal.
In conclusion, each year, only a handful of devices can be unlocked, and it can be a real headache to do as they make you jump through hoops. Despite the fact that there are hundreds of new devices released each year, forcing this into a niche category. These are the facts. If you want use Custom Roms, or root your device, you need to check on xda-developers first. And if you have a look, it's actually not very active (at least not as active as it used to be 5-10 years ago). https://forum.xda-developers.com
Without further ado, here's a list of the prominent OEMs and their stance on bootloaders:
Vivo (pretty bad)
Samsung (pretty bad)
SONY (pretty good)
Kangal, 19 Mar 2020That's where I'm trying to educate you.
ALL devices have a locked bootloader, and they should... moreOnly few allow bootloader unlocking? What are you talking about?
Which other company apart from Huawei blocks you from unlocking bootloaders?
Flgshp2020, 18 Mar 2020Efficiency is important but what I am trying to say is that Most users would be happy with mos... moreThat's where I'm trying to educate you.
ALL devices have a locked bootloader, and they should, for security purposes. But only FEW actually allow them to be unlocked. It is a small minority, and not a majority. Go and check the ida-developers website if you do not believe me.
Most users are happy with Android 5.1, let alone, Android10. It has solved many of the frustrations we have had since "back in the day". So yes, as I said, OEM Skins are much better in 2019 than they were in 2014. The biggest improvement is that there has been a shift from Heavy SkinnedOS to a Light SkinnedOS, or in some cases, just using Stockish OS.
But since when are we happy with good?
No, we want great. That's why we don't want phones with the QSD 632 chipset, let alone the QSD 765... we want the QSD 865 chipset in our phones. It's time people start looking at the Software as critically as they look at the Hardware. Because the best experience isn't bound by one or the other, it is through a combination of the two. For instance, something simple like the Moto G5+, to a flagship like the Nubia 27, and tell me which one has aged better. You can even change which "simple phone" you want to compare to an "ex-flagship", you will notice that the devices which are bloated never age gracefully. Consumers should not have to put up with a subpar experience, wether its Software or Hardware.
Kangal, 18 Mar 2020That's a poor attitude to have.
Remember that if a system is more "heavy" than it needs to be... moreEfficiency is important but what I am trying to say is that Most users would be happy with most top Android skins like miui, EMUI, zen ui, one Ui, color OS, oxygen OS in 2020.
Every manufacturer locks bootloader by default which can be officially unlocked easily. Only Huawei doesn't allow bootloader unlocking.
Flgshp2020, 18 Mar 2020No one cares about heavyness of an OS.
Most flasghips and even budget phones are running with... moreThat's a poor attitude to have.
Remember that if a system is more "heavy" than it needs to be, that is just efficiency that you are leaving on the table. You're missing out on both performance and battery life. Throwing more and more third-party Apps isn't the solution. You just end up with more bloatware. It's only a short-term solution that eases the symptom but doesn't heal the real problem.
Also, the Custom Rom community has dwindled since 2016.
STOCK Android 5.1 Lollipop addressed many concerns/bugs when it comes to, User Interface, 64-bit computing, and hybrid processors. So there's been much less reasons to use a Custom Rom, because the OEM Firmware isn't as bad. As you already read in my previous comment; LG UX and One-UI are major improvements, say compared to the 2014 LG G4 and Samsung S5's Operating Systems.
On top of this, most devices come with locked bootloaders, so that it is much more difficult or impossible to develop on. And this doesn't just affect Custom Roms, it also means you don't get root access. That makes it even more important that current OEMs should simply stick with AndroidONE, otherwise, if they insist on SkinnedOS then they should apply the necessary money/time/developers/resources to do a proper job. See how it's done by Meizu's attention to detail, OnePlus commitment for long-term support, Samsungs new-found restraint when including all these features/gimmicks they developed.
Kangal, 18 Mar 2020After having used the new LG UI, Samsung's One UI, OxygenOS, EMUI, MIUI, ColorOS, Nokia Androi... moreNo one cares about heavyness of an OS.
Most flasghips and even budget phones are running with 6gb RAM.
So, all Android skins work great in 2020. I run a mobile repair shop. We get our hands on all kinds of phones with different Android skins running different version.
Any consistency in the OS can be fixed by third party apps.
So blessed to be in the Android ecosystem. If you are not happy with stock, just get a custom ROM.
Flgshp2020, 17 Mar 2020EMUI, MIUI, COLOR OS all are on par with each other in 2020.
You won't be disappointed with a... moreAfter having used the new LG UI, Samsung's One UI, OxygenOS, EMUI, MIUI, ColorOS, Nokia AndroidOne phones, and many more. I DISAGREE.
In order to make this long comment make more sense, I'll talk about each OS starting from the leanest barebones to the heaviest skinned.
First up, we have Stock AOSP. It's a 1/10 for its heaviness. Yes, you can download the free and open OS from GitHub and compile it for your device. However, it's missing some features, it isn't the best looker, and obviously lacking Google Services API and Apps is bad for most users.
The next leanest is Stock AndroidOne OS. It's a 3/10 for heaviness. That's the kind you see on HMD-Nokia phones. This is great because you get all that you need, in a very lean/fast form, and with the benefit of faster updates and longer update support. Some customisation from the OEM seems to be accepted by Google, and all updates no longer are pushed out by Google but instead have to be pushed out by the OEM. The biggest benefit of this OS, is that customers know and have an expectation of software support... all other options are nothing more than "pinky promise" or "white lie".
You could say the "Google OS" is the next leanest option. It doesn't have "bloatware" in the traditional sense. Yet, it's no longer lean, and it is full of software features that are useless outside of USA. Not to mention the annoy and simple yet stupid bugs. Ever since the change from the Nexus 6P to the Pixel lineup, it has been a downhill show for me. It's a 3.5/10 for heaviness.
So what follows?
Arguably it is (OnePlus) OxygenOS, (Sony) Xperia UI, and (Motorola) Moto UI. The first two have excellent track-record for delivering software updates, sometimes better than AndroidOne. All three are basically like AndroidOne but they add a couple things on top of it, such as a dozen features, or a better Camera App etc. Super-useful things and not bloatware at all. They're roughly 4/10 for heaviness. It's unfortunate that Motorola is no longer trustworthy with their software support ever since they were acquired by Lenovo.
Speaking of, Lenovo (ZUI) and ASUS (ZenUI), have massively changed their OS over the last two years. Both of these companies transitioned from a Full-Skinned to a Half-Skinned OS. The current iteration is a "light-skinned" OS has been much better for it. In many ways, they're similar to ZTE and it's MiFavor and Alcatel OS. So even though they're in-offensive to use, their software updates are still a work in progress. They're a 5/10 for heaviness.
Speaking of "Half Skinned" OS, the next ones inline are (Oppo) ColorOS, (Oppo) Realme UI, (ZTE) Nubia UI. There's no need to mention HTC and their Sense UI, since its practically a dead/absorbed company. These rate about 5.5/10 for heaviness. Obviously all three are Chinese phones which sell both internationally and in the Chinese market. I can't speak much about Realme UI, but the Nubia UI was definitely not that pleasant to use and software updates are non-existent. However, ColorOS has surprised me.... they've taken a lot of inspiration from their other brand OnePlus/OxygenOS. It does get updates but not as much as needed, which is pretty much their only issue.
Okay, I purposely separated these two. The LG UX (by LG) and One UI (by Samsung) are also Half-Skinned OS. Coming in at around 6/10 for heaviness. They aren't as light-skinned as the above options, but they have come a long way since their Heavy-Skinned (and bloated) days. The LG UX is the more boring one of the two, but its pretty inoffensive. It can look pretty stock once you apply your own theme, launcher, icon pack. However, its rock-solid stable and it is the world-leader on the audio and video fronts (Professional grade QuadDAC and Manual Mode?). Samsung's One UI has a few more bloat, and has more bugs. But to their credit, they've been doing an excellent job of software updates so far. This isn't the TouchWiz/S-Experience of old. Despite all the good things I talked about LG UX, it does not have DeX, a game-changer in my books. It reminds me back to the HP Elite X3 and how it docked to have full-Windows10 on your Desktop Monitor.
Now, here's where things start to get off. This is sort of where things were for most OEMs about 5 years ago. They were pushing their Heavy-Skinned OS as a differentiator, but it only worked to hurt customers who got mostly ugly choices, buggy software, and little update support. In this segment we have (Huawei) EMUI, (Honor) MagicUI, and (Vivo) FunTouch OS. And they rate between 6/10 to 7/10. Honestly, there's not much positive to say. EMUI is the best here, but that's not saying much. They do a poor job of software updates, but better than the other two. There system management is aggressive, reminding me of the TouchWizz days. And the UI is overall clunky. There have been security flaws posted, but I haven't noticed much bugs. So yeah, a poor performance overall, and not much else to say.
The last category is the Full-Skinned OS: MIUI (by Xiaomi) and FlymeOS (by Meizu). They rank as 7.5/10 and 9/10 respectively. You would expect the more stock os to be better, but in my experience that is not the case. MIUI has transformed over the years, and in some areas it got more stock and in others it got more skinned. Not to mention that it also has gotten both leaner and more bloated at the same time. The overall impression is like an unfinished painting, thanks to the inconsistent choices. Oh, and those Ads which could be disabled, are a very stupid idea. And they need to spend a lot of resources to fix some privacy concerns and a lot of small annoying bugs that persist. FlymeOS is the opposite of what I said. It is pretty much fully skinned with a consistent theme. It has been tastefully done too. There's no bloatware, but the OS isn't very lean. There's the privacy concern, but a lot less bugs. The biggest issue with FlymeOS is that it is basically a China-exclusive, and doesn't run well internationally/other phones. MIUI is much more internationally friendly. Both OS aren't good for software updates, but where MIUI has some support (disregarding all their empty updates) the other option FlymeOS practically has no software support.
My favourite OS to have on my personal phone would most likely be ResurrectionRemix (Custom ROM), followed by AndroidONE (software updates), and lastly FlymeOS (that UX !).
Anonymous, 16 Mar 2020They'll do nothing.
Definitely don't expect anything from Apple or Pixel. Apple has to do something or else they will be buried. Oppo just killed S20 Ultra with both specs, hardware, quality, camera and most importantly Price.
Apple's iPhone 12 Pro Max 5G version will probably start at 1599 dollars and the big storage version will cost 1799 dollars. So if Apple doesn't bring some serious specs and camera performance and innovation they are dead.
zillion, 17 Mar 2020In my country, Indonesia, this oppo find X2/pro got bullied so much with this insane expensive... moreWith Samsung you will be getting the inferior Exynos 990 chipset in Europe, India and Indonesia (and other countries). Only the US and China are getting snapdragon 865 chipset.
The difference between Exynos 990 and snapdragon 865 are just too large for my taste (you will effectively be getting less battery life and less game power with the Exynos chipset in Samsung phones). 2020 will most likely be the last time that Samsung will be shipping their Exynos chipsets, as they are making changes to their internation models.
At least Oppo use only the Snapdragon chipset, offering a compelling reason to choose Oppo over Samsung phones for those buyers not living in the US or in China.
This phone was launched in The Netherlands somewhere last week. I think it was the first European country to receive this phone in certain shops (t mobile shop and Mediamarkt).
The contrast should be infinit beacuse its an amoled and not 5mil to 1 !
zillion, 17 Mar 2020In my country, Indonesia, this oppo find X2/pro got bullied so much with this insane expensive... moreyup, they're shamelessly put their brand on the same level as Samsung or Apple which is a big LOL for me. 17,999,000 IDR for me is a rip-off from not competent chinese brand like Oppo, i'd rather buy S20 Ultra for much better brand and phone anyway. even much more premium chinese company like Huawei selling their phone so much cheper than this shitty Oppo does. 12,499,000 for Huawei Mate 30 Pro compare to shtty find x2/pro for 17,999,000 yeah lol
Kangal, 17 Mar 2020If only their UI was as pretty as Meizu's FlymeOS, or better yet...
...if the Oppo Find X2/P... moreEMUI, MIUI, COLOR OS all are on par with each other in 2020.
You won't be disappointed with any of them.
Stock Android is overrated in 2020.
Besides Color OS 7.1 is slowly morphing into Oxygen OS from OnePlus, their sister company.
Anonymous, 16 Mar 2020Best flagship phone to come out in 2020.
Best A+ Grade display on the market (Display Mate)... moreIf only their UI was as pretty as Meizu's FlymeOS, or better yet...
...if the Oppo Find X2/Pro had AndroidOne installed.
zillion, 17 Mar 2020In my country, Indonesia, this oppo find X2/pro got bullied so much with this insane expensive... moreIt's already confirmed. Few are buying the Reno 2 and 2F with rubbish chipset for the price point. Pretty much like the Vivo V17 Pro and NEX 3. Mi 10 and 10 Pro can resolve this. realme X2 Pro is already selling quite well in Indonesia.
In my country, Indonesia, this oppo find X2/pro got bullied so much with this insane expensive price. Almost the same with s20 ultra and iphone 11 pro max. With this more than 1000 euros, we better choosing samsung or iphone for more prestigious worldwide brands. Look at oppo reno series and last find x, it's not sold well here. This find x2/pro will have the same.
ye still not wireless charging which makes it pretty useless for me, punch hole isn't that great either. Shame really, I had high hopes this would be my next phone.