AnonD-731363, 23 Mar 2020Well the camera is definitely interesting but i would like this big companies to see their foc... moreActually, they did invest some advance tech to detect Covid-19 - https://www.gadgetmatch.com/huawei-cloud-covid-19-coronavirus-testing/
Anonymous, 23 Mar 2020Taking a photo from a close object is very different story.
Mine with 1/2.3" can blur half s... moreYou are both right and wrong.
'FF 5.8 at this FL, cant do any blur.'
- Nope. When its get near to the subject, it still got the creamy natural blur effects. Its just less blur when you far away.
And about smartphone sensors, when its naturally blur (especially with the big sensor) yes I agree they indeed deepen the blur effects, as if the aperture number imitates FF sensor. Some brands does it good (Sony & Huawei), but as you can see from S20 Ultra, i can not say the same (blur transition out of focus, with warping blur effects caused by the bad lens quality).
As for the 'portrait', 'aperture' or 'background defocus' feature is a different story. That is indeed faking the bokeh effects. But when it works with good edge detection, it still amaze me (unless u pixel peeping it lol).
Anonymous, 23 Mar 2020But this is exactly what youtubers and dxomark like. Huawei is not dumb. They know what they do. Well then, these samples obviously using 'Leica' color mod. DxO & Youtubers (almost all of it) will review samples base on their default state, which is not exactly as you thought.
Nick Tagataka, 23 Mar 2020This is a natural depth of field created by a large sensor and wide aperture lens. You can tel... moreTaking a photo from a close object is very different story.
Mine with 1/2.3" can blur half scene if I put 20 centimers away from an object.
Camera with proper lens after pointed to a person will blur background, no matter if person is 1,5m or 4m away.
Phones cannot do it. You can point main camera of S20 Ultra to someone and nothing will happen, just edges will have bit of blur.
They will not be blur all over the scene behind the person.
1/1.2" sensor + 26mm + f1.7 is equivalent to FF + 5.8. And FF 5.8 at this FL, cant do any blur.
This is why phones have protrait modes, unless you use it, you will never blur the behind of someone.
Shadocx, 23 Mar 2020Blown out highlights, crushed shadows and oversaturated colors just like on my uncle's P30 Pro.But this is exactly what youtubers and dxomark like.
Huawei is not dumb.
They know what they do.
Shadocx, 23 Mar 2020In those samples, I like the details and natural bokeh of the big sensor, but not the rest.No worries, everyone got their own preference, and I respect that. Its just that I'm all in into Leica looks for a long time now. Its one of the reason I purchase Huawei phone.
Shui8, 23 Mar 2020If u look into details, not exactly. What i observe from those samples are, apart from the 'Le... moreIn those samples, I like the details and natural bokeh of the big sensor, but not the rest.
Anonymous, 23 Mar 2020All phones do bokeh by processing. No susprise. Point the cam to someone, you will never see... moreThis is a natural depth of field created by a large sensor and wide aperture lens. You can tell it's not a synthetic blur effect when photos have clean focus rolloff and there's no edge detection errors. I wouldn't say that the bokeh looks particularly great on those photos though, it's pretty good quality for smartphone lens but still far from what you can achieve with 1" compact cameras let alone DLSRs.
Anonymous, 23 Mar 2020Called you an apologist coz you were doing the same thing in other thread by making excuses fo... moreI wasn't making an excuse about Kirin 990's overall inferiour performance to SD865 lol. At that time you suddenly threw me some completely irrelevant argument that was not related to the question I was asking to the other user, so I asked you why you decided to direct your comment at me, but you couldn't answer in the end. The same goes for rooting, you were spewing tons of BS on how gaining superuser access somehow makes the phone *more* secure and I simply corrected you. Where did all those Huawei argument come from? Your imagination again?
Now back to the topic of the telephoto sensor on P40 Pro. Right now you're stating that P40 Pro will have a weaker telephoto lens than S20 Ultra as if it's a FACT even though you don't have a complete spec sheet nor full resolution samples to prove your point. It's fine that you complain about it after the actual product comes out and if you find its performance underwhelming, but attacking a certain product before its release without knowing what it will have is just beyond ridiculous. I'm not talking about who will eventually turn out to be correct or wrong, but rather criticising your general attitude when you're making a statement and having a discussion with others. You being a brand hater and not being able to handle any logics are not my problems, so don't take it out on me please.
overexposure still not fixed, not even trying to be HDR. (do you really have to be Apple to understand the basics of photography?)
we will in the age of dumb, unfortunately.
bet they also won't fix the "no vertical zoom control in landscape mode" issue.
Shadocx, 23 Mar 2020And it gives the same results as the P30 Pro, really?If u look into details, not exactly. What i observe from those samples are, apart from the 'Leica look' (warmer, contrasty & clipped highlights), its clean details without oil-painting looks, greater natural bokeh because of the big sensor & nice color rendition (not just oversaturate).
If you're into films & cinematic, u'll understand what i mean.
Shui8, 23 Mar 2020Then you should know those samples using 'Leica' film simulation option, not the standard one.And it gives the same results as the P30 Pro, really?
Shadocx, 23 Mar 2020Blown out highlights, crushed shadows and oversaturated colors just like on my uncle's P30 Pro.Then you should know those samples using 'Leica' film simulation option, not the standard one.
Kissio, 23 Mar 2020Once again the Leica lenses from Huawei taking amazing photos.I guess you like, loss of details in shadows, blown out highlights and oversaturation, the P30 Pro is doing the same thing...
Blown out highlights, crushed shadows and oversaturated colors just like on my uncle's P30 Pro.
Nick Tagataka, 23 Mar 2020Those oversaturated colours and generally warmer tones are exactly what I see on my P30 when I... moreLuckily for us to easily identify it as a user. Nevertheless the 'Leica looks' film simulation wasnt all bad. If the scene or situation are right, it nails it. The only complains are they dont provide the filter preset after pics taken, but apply it real-life & final image are been fixed.
Take a look some of my samples using 'Leica Smooth' - https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1AXES6VJgl0BIG6WnrdqueVCRTFmS-LKb
Everyday is a learning process for me lol.
Kissio, 23 Mar 2020Once again the Leica lenses from Huawei taking amazing photos.Except Leica has stated already they do not make lenses for cellphones.
They just give their Okay to quality.
It is made by chinese company.
Anonymous, 23 Mar 2020Am I the only one to notice that these are real "bokeh" shots as to processed shots?
The se... moreAll phones do bokeh by processing. No susprise.
Point the cam to someone, you will never see background blur before you take photo.
Nick Tagataka, 23 Mar 2020Assuming that the new leaks are accurate, first of all we don't know which 12MP sensor it will... moreCalled you an apologist coz you were doing the same thing in other thread by making excuses for weaker Kirin 990 chipset compared to 2020 flagships. Here you are making excuse for weak telephoto sensor.
Also saw you making excuses for Huawei not allowing bootloader unlock.
This is exactly how a brand boy behaves.