Well and i bet it wont be better on DOXMARK than Huawei P40 pro with 50 mpix camera.
YUKI93, 07 Apr 2020And yet both 808 and 1020 are still not being surpassed by current modern smartphones. Let tha... moreQuote, "And yet both 808 and 1020 are still not being surpassed by current modern smartphones. Let that sink in."
Both the Nokia 808 and Nokia 1020 were in the class of their own. They still beat (photo quality-wise) any megapixel excesses of any phone today.
In the addition, the Nokia 1020 has the best OS for maximal productivity.
Today's iOS and Android cannot come close to the vastly superior Nokia 1020.
TheArtist, 07 Apr 2020I have a Nokia 808 Pureview in very good condition. This phone has the largest sensor at 1/1.2... moreBoth the Nokia 808 and Nokia 1020 were in the class of their own. They still beat (photo quality-wise) any megapixel excesses of any phone today.
hmm, 07 Apr 2020Numbers is selling right now. Bigger size of the screen with more number, More ram with 2 digi... moreQuote, "Numbers is selling right now..."
When the underlying OS is built to be a mega data-siphoning operation, big numbers is all that can attempt to obfuscate the disturbing theft taking place.
People need to be taught to comprehend the seriousness of Adoogle's operation, as the big numbers are superficial in comparison to the darkness lying beneath the hardware.
Pfff that's way too low. Why not 500mp?
Hey, why not 666mp and call if the devil upon us? F that!
Why not put a 999mp camera on the thing and make it the size of a fist as well. I can think of a few ways to use it..
Hey! Don't forget! It has to have a vibrator motor as well..
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2020For 1/1.33" sensor, 108mp with 9to1 pixel binning gives 2.4 micron pixel size.
This is the Sa... moreTell us this conditions.
Because Iphone has at base iso just 8 of DR, while FF has 12.7.
You need to crack up ISO to 6400 do drop DR of FF to same value an iphone has at iso20.
Many cameras can do image stacking (called HDR+ by Google) but photographer prefer just to lift shadows because stacking introduces blur with subject moves and issues with white balance.
As you push HDR on cellphones, more artificial photo ends up. Why do you think some phones show blueish clouds on cloudy days instead of grays tones? The high contrast from Pixel? The yellow hues from Samsung?
No phone maker was able to make non-fake looking HDR photos so far.
Waste of time to prevent overexposed background if all the rest of the scene goes wrong.
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2020Nope, cellphone cameras with computational photography have already surpassed 1/2.3" compact c... moreNo, cellphones use cheap poor quality plastic lenses.
My CyberShot has proper glass lenses with all optical requirements to deal with issues cellphones cant.
Compact cameras do not give you fake looking images with purple or navy blue sky, no yellow hues, no tons of oversharpening nor faces made out of wax.
Shanti Dope, 07 Apr 2020Clearly this high megapixel count competition doesn't really produce relatively sharper result... moreFor 1/1.33" sensor, 108mp with 9to1 pixel binning gives 2.4 micron pixel size.
This is the Same pixel size that can be obtained via traditional sensors, although it will have to be a bigger 1" sensor.
192mp camera with 1" sensor will give effective pixel size that can only be obtained by a sensor larger than 1 inch.
You can't just slap a big sensor on cellphones. Cellphone cameras will never be as big as Dslr. So manufacturers are resorting to Quad Bayers and Nona Bayer sensors.
With improvements in Algorithms, they will only get better.
So called "experts" in the comment section, have zero idea as to how computational photography works on a granular level. Their mouths will be shut as soon as image processing Algorithms for high Megapixel Quad Bayers surpass traditional sensors in every case.
So computational photography is the way to go. It's already beating Dslr in many conditions in Auto mode (which is the entire purpose of point and shoot)
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2020Even a compact 1/2.3" can handle cellphones because of the huge lens quality difference. Few... moreNope, cellphone cameras with computational photography have already surpassed 1/2.3" compact cameras long back.
harwey, 07 Apr 2020Fine,but few months ago I would strongly disagree with those prices.don't believe a word when ... moreWhen you announce a phone in february, you already have all pieces at your factories much before.
Not all products have prices according to volume of sales. Sony, LG, Google etc would not accept to pay more for SD865 compared to Samsung because they sell less.
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2020Just the hardware of S20 Ultra cost almost $550. Samsung has many in-house stuff, which makes ... moreFine,but few months ago I would strongly disagree with those prices.don't believe a word when Sammy or Apple explain how much those components cost...retail prices,ok,but not bulk,when you order dozens of millions of them.But,after everything that's going on globally lately,many factories were closed in China for weeks,or more..so obviously manufacturers had to recalculate their prices,and they went..up!Hopefully, that'll be just temporarily..
Hudinited, 07 Apr 2020There's nothing wrong with the tests. as much as i love photography i understand that point of... moreI am not saying people should know how to use manual mode.
I know what are ISO, shutter speed, kinds of WB etc ...
But I do not know what settings are best for all momments.
My point is that when different settings are used, it leads ppl to think A is better than B when it can be just matter of setting or hardware.
Phone with 1/1.2" sensor has the obligation to do better than a phone that has 1/2.5". No matter the software is good or bad. It is a huge hardware difference.
1" camera will never beat Apsc, no matter how improves software can be.
Compare 1/3" against 1/3", not against 1/1.5".
Compare 1/2" + iso400 against 1/2" + iso400, not against iso1200.
Iphones have issues with colours at night simply because it does not let you choose right WB. Auto mode failed here.
sirozan, 07 Apr 2020Crazy how not too long ago we all thought the Megapixel race ended at 41MP with the Nokia 808/... moreNumbers is selling right now. Bigger size of the screen with more number, More ram with 2 digits numbers, And so on and on. No major update then go bigger with everything and then have lots of things that show lots of numbers
Anonymous, 07 Apr 2020Best professional cameras are the ones with high MP. 24MP FF will never give better photo th... moreThere's nothing wrong with the tests. as much as i love photography i understand that point of camera on the smartphone is to take good moments or beautiful nature in that moment using point and shoot tech, read auto mode... Most of ppl dont know anything about photograpy and it's not practical to force them to learn, when, how. where.... it would lead to losing customers , as that kind of phone would be for specific group of ppl...
48mp daylight, 12mp low light would be ideal. Whatever will it be, monochrome from raw should be the sharpest at 192mp, cannot even imagine. 1-5x zoom in low light will be great.
Hope the optics are good and there is a good. zoom sensor.
Glad to see the 765G, it should be fast enough for the camera and plenty fast for any phone.
Shanti Dope, 07 Apr 2020You don't get my main point right from the start.
APS-C or any other large sensor digital cam... more"192MP at 1" sensor surface area? That would mean extremely noisy daylight images even in bright sunlight"
No, it wouldn't. Only extreme shadows would look much worse due to read noise. A bright sky wouldn't have much more noise than a low resolution sensor of the same size. In perfect light conditions without shadow areas the noise is mainly the photon noise, which exists in the reality: objects (for example the sun) emit /reflect a slightly different number of photons every millisecond. This causes noise in the image. It has nothing to do with pixel size.
I know pixel binning I can't give you the proper level of details but the fact is it shows good details I have use 64 megapixel Samsung gw 1 sensor mobile and I like it details...
TheArtist, 07 Apr 2020I have a Nokia 808 Pureview in very good condition. This phone has the largest sensor at 1/1.2... moreAgreed 3 MB 8MP pic is more detailed than 12MP modern smartphone pics which usually takes around 7-8 MP.
In most of the cases it does happen.