Sponge, 14 Apr 2020With many of the comments, I'm unsure many have done research and have not truly understand w... moreIts most likely time. As qualcomm 865 has demonstrated a77 cores even at the same frequency are more efficient, but they had a few more months to work on it.
Sponge, 14 Apr 2020With many of the comments, I'm unsure many have done research and have not truly understand w... moreNot to mention that very likely an A77 arrangement wouldve been more expensive to manufacture.
Speculation of course, but the rumour mill expects Huawei's yet to be announced Kirin 1020 to be built by TSMC on the latest 5nm process using Cortex A78 cores..
With many of the comments, I'm unsure many have done research and have not truly understand why Huawei used A76 cores.
Richard Yu has said previously that A77 cores were considered but an A76@2.86GHz vs an A77@2.86GHz, the A77 is more power hungry when at the same clock speed as an A76.
Theoretically, an A77 should be implemented at a slightly lower clock speed that an outgoing A76 to maintain the same speed but improving efficiency through lower clock speeds.
Anonymous, 10 Apr 2020The 5g modem isn't even active unless you are using 5g which isnt available everywhere around ... more5g might not be available everywhere but its no reason to not include heat pipes for better cooling. A76 is obv inferior to a77 in everything, what im talking about is k990 is the best a76 implementation - compared to sd855 etc its more efficient. Forget samsung, did you bother to check the sources i mentioned?
Mediatek sux, 10 Apr 2020I remember somewhere i read its because of the 5g modem that requires extra cooling. Like i sa... moreThe 5g modem isn't even active unless you are using 5g which isnt available everywhere around the world. Cortex A76 is obviously inferior to cortex A77 in terms of efficiency and thermal management.
Samsung with the Exynos series on S20 has similar throttling problems coz of the mali GPU.
I remember Morsel(another user on this site) explaining it
How is it that Anandtech's released a comprehensive article about the incredibly clandestine behaviour of Mediatek secretly but heavy-handedly cheating basically all benchmarks on most of their new chipsets, yet it hasn't been mentioned seemingly at all on a popular website about technical phone reviews?
I recall the Dimensity 1000 *might* not have been affected, but it's still a bit disappointing it hasn't been brought up at all.
Anonymous, 10 Apr 2020If throttling was due to EMUI, then why did Huawei add cooling for the P40 series? They knew ... moreI remember somewhere i read its because of the 5g modem that requires extra cooling. Like i said, kirin 990 is the most efficient chip with a76 big cores, you can check sustained performance results over on anandtech. That mali gpu is also pretty good for native android gaming. Gamebench has tested it you can check on their site.
Mediatek sux, 09 Apr 2020Kirin is actually really good from the 980 onwards. The throttling is just emui. You can check... moreIf throttling was due to EMUI, then why did Huawei add cooling for the P40 series?
They knew that the 990 throttled on the Mate 30 pro especially during intensive gaming.
So to prevent that on their 2020 flagships, they added some cooling which IMO should be standard on flasghip phones.
In fact, it's not so much the CPU, but the paired Mali gpu that is more responsible for throttling.
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2020If you do a bit of research then you will find out Kirin 990 5G is somewhere inbetween Snapdra... moreI can't confirm if you're right on that, and it would be weird if you are considering even the Kirin 990 5G is only on par with the 855+ and nowhere near the 865. But I can say why comparing the 985 to high end snapdragon SoCs is fair. It's because the predecessor to the Honor 30 used the Kirin 980, Huawei's highest end chip at the time. So it's only fair to compare it to other high end chips.
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2020You should look at ai-benchmark.com, sd865 sits 7th placeCould be true. Snapdragon 865 isn't that good as expected and Google and LG have alerady rejected it.
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2020Kirin and Exynos are known for excessive throttling. They are the worst culprits. Snapdragon ... moreKirin is actually really good from the 980 onwards. The throttling is just emui. You can check anandtech for comparisons.
I already had a notion during its launch that MediaTek Dimensity 1000 is a good competition to Snapdragon 865 chipset.
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2020All phones require proper cooling for high sustained performance. Look at where European Galax... moreKirin and Exynos are known for excessive throttling. They are the worst culprits.
Snapdragon on the other hand is the best out of the box when it comes to managing throttling.
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2020You should look at ai-benchmark.com, sd865 sits 7th placeWell guess what bud, that benchmark is about something that we literally almost never use on our phones! Go look at Antutu then get back to me.
Anonymous, 08 Apr 2020Still using older cortex A76 architecture. No wonder battery efficiency is bad. No wonder th... moreAll phones require proper cooling for high sustained performance. Look at where European Galaxy S20 Ultra ended up in graphics benchmarks, it throttles as hell under heavy load.
joe nodden, 08 Apr 2020Ah yes, compare it to two chips that we know next to nothing about, great comparison. No no no... moreIf you do a bit of research then you will find out Kirin 990 5G is somewhere inbetween Snapdragon 855+ and 865. Besides, what is the point of comparing 985 to highend Snapdragon SoCs? This will be inside Honor 30 which is an upper midrange tier.
Don't see much sense in 985, when 820 is about as good.
Still using older cortex A76 architecture. No wonder battery efficiency is bad.
No wonder their chipsets throttle and they had to put cooling on the P40 series to prevent throttling.