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DX0Mark reviews for both Honor 30 Pro+ and S20U are out. Compared the zoom score for both: 101 for Honor 30 Pro+, and 88 for S20U. Make your own conclusion.
MadMel, 21 Apr 2020S20U with 4x zoom is good competition for Honor midrangers, indeed ...In real world results, it is wiping the floor with every periscope zoom lens on smartphone especially in low light.
Don't even get me started on video thru that telephoto lens, this is where Huawei simply gets annihilated
Anonymous, 21 Apr 2020the 4x optical is from a IMX 586. So just don't go buy blind numbers of 10x by Huawei. S20... moreS20U with 4x zoom is good competition for Honor midrangers, indeed ...
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020The advantages of Honor 30 Series over any SD855+ based phones are obvious:
1) Honor 30 Serie... morehahaha...you still beleive in Santa?
what ever Huawei says, maybe but only maybe half of that is true!
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-misleading-dslr-photos-1108865/
My prediction for Honor 30 Series:
Best selling 5G Android smartphone series of 2020.
30+ million units sold by year's end.
Well with all these hypes and specifications what is the use of this phones for majority phone lovers, except chinese without android platform
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020There are only three parties that have so far delivered a periscope optical zoom for their sma... morethe 4x optical is from a IMX 586.
So just don't go buy blind numbers of 10x by Huawei.
S20 ultra is literally the Zoom champ right now.
Daylight/Night, whatever the conditions, the images are great. And there's great video as well which is terrible on other periscope sensors.
So I'd say it's a success for Sammy. It's going to push the bar further next year. Nobody buying Huawei with last year's chipset and lower resolution, lower refresh rate screen without fully functional Play services on board.
There are only three parties that have so far delivered a periscope optical zoom for their smartphones:
(1) Oppo (Vivo), this is where the periscope optical zoom was started. Oppo has so far release two models, 1st generation periscope 5x optical zoom on 'Reno 10x zoom' in June, 2019, and 2nd generation periscope 5x optical zoom on 'Find X2 Pro' in March, 2020.
(2) Huawei, released P30Pro in April, 2019, world's 1st smartphone with a periscope 5x optical zoom, followed by 2nd generation periscope 5x optical zoom on P40Pro, and world's 1st periscope 10x optical zoom on P40Pro+, in March, 2020.
(3) Samsung, paid $155 millions for the periscope optical zoom tech in January, 2019, and after a year's additional engineering effort, released S20Ultra in March, 2020, with Samsung's first periscope 4x optical zoom. Is Samsung's effort up to the task? At least Samsung is willing to make an effort. Most other phone-makers have been basically resigned to the fact that they are incapable of making a real optical zoom for their smartphones.
At this point, we have all come to the same realization that it is not that easy to put a periscope zoom on a smartphone. The manufacturing process is extremely expensive because it requires a trained camera technician to manually adjust the tiny zoom individually, and takes a lot more than a few seconds to do it right. The pricing of Honor 30 Series implies a breakthrough in manufacturing process that can automate the task previously requires a high level involvement of human beings with domain specific knowledge. All this makes sense if you have paid attention to what a Honor executive told reporters at a recent product launch that Honor was on its way to develop a most advanced smartphone manufacturing process unrivaled anywhere in the world, adding "a true 21 century manufacturing process that will put our rival's legacy 20 century manufacturing process to shame."
Samsung paid $155 millions to catch up with rival's periscope tech. After more than a year's additional engineering effort, the only thing Samsung has to show for is the 4x optical zoom in S20Ultra, not a total failure, but not a success you would expect with tag of $155 millions. This basically tells you how costly and difficult to build a quality periscope zoom for smartphones.
You are now in a better position to appreciate what Honor 30 Series has to offer.
Samsung's $155 million quest to catch up with rival's periscope tech:
Samsung was shocked after Oppo made their periscope tech briefing in October, 2018, and immediately started to raid the supply chains of Oppo to catch up.
As reported by sammobile in January, 2019, Samsung has signed a deal to acquire Corephotonics for $155 millions, for its periscope optical zoom tech. Corephotonics have previously worked with Chinese phone manufacturer Oppo on a periscope camera solution that enabled 5x optical zoom. For more details, go to sammobile website, search for Corephotonics.
There are more interesting and juicy details regarding how Samsung was raiding Oppo's supply chains after Oppo made their periscope tech briefing in late 2018, Search the Internet using "Samsung" and "Corephotonics". Or search the Internet with "Samsung", "Oppo", "periscope".
Samsung's $155 million quest to catch up with rival's periscope tech:
Samsung is "in advanced negotiations" to acquire Corephotonics for $150 million to $160 million.
https://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-samsung-reportedly-talks-acquire-firm-behind-oppos-periscope-camera-tech
Samsung has reportedly signed a deal to acquire Israeli company Corephotonics, which specializes in dual camera technologies for mobile devices. The deal is worth $155 million, according to Israeli publication Globes.
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/01/28/samsungs-acquisition-optical-zoom-phones/
If you want more details, search the internet using "Samsung" and "Corephotonics".
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020why bother with this phone when you have so much better options on the market with SD855+?
an... moreThe advantages of Honor 30 Series over any SD855+ based phones are obvious:
1) Honor 30 Series offers a real optical zoom no SD855+ based phones offer.
2) Honor 30 Series comes with an integrated 5G modem that offers true 5G, supporting SA/NSA dual-mode. No SD855+ based 5G phones support SA mode. By 2020 standard, no SD855+ based phones can be called true 5G phones.
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020This Kirin chip based series offers something no Qualcomm chip based phones offer: superior ca... more130 million dollars to build periscope camera? Lol, you are pulling these numbers out of your a$$.
Besides the 4x optical is from a IMX 586.
It's literally the Zoom champ right now.
Daylight/Night, whatever the conditions, the images are great. And there's great video as well which is terrible on other periscope sensors.
Huawei is the Ultrawide champ, though the Ultrawide has weaknesses of its own.
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020why bother with this phone when you have so much better options on the market with SD855+?
an... moreThis Kirin chip based series offers something no Qualcomm chip based phones offer: superior camera systems with superior RYYB sensors coupled with a periscope 5x optical zoom. We can be even more specific, no SD855+ based phones offer periscope zooms of any kind, because most phone-makers don't know how to build one. For the select few phone-makers that have built periscope zooms, they don't know how to make them cost effectively. Up to this point, a smartphone with a real optical zoom is not an option for the majority of the users. Honor 30 series has made periscope optical zooms available at a price point majority of smartphone users will now have that option. That is quite a statement! The fact is this lowly priced Honor 30 (~$400) comes with a camera system that is better than majority of the higher priced flagship phones available today.
Remember, it took Samsung 130+ millions dollars to build their first and only periscope zoom (4x optical) for S20ultra, and it wasn't that good. Isn't it surprising? Most other phone-makers have been basically resigned to the fact that they are incapable of making a real optical zoom for their smartphones.
Again, its a dead duck without a proper app store, maybe in China.... Where everything is fake it will work
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020why bother with this phone when you have so much better options on the market with SD855+? an... moreThis Kirin chip based series offers something no Qualcomm chip based phones offer: Superior camera systems with superior RYYB sensors coupled with a periscope optical zoom. Remember, it took Samsung 130+ millions dollars to build their first and only periscope zoom (4x optical) for S20ultra, and it wasn't that good. Is it surprising?
Nik, 19 Apr 2020No one will take these phones seriously without Google GMS is important for some users, indifferent to some users, but for a lot more than a billion users, it has zero relevance.
For now, the best phones for how much money you pay. At least, for now. Unless you want a P30 Pro and don't want 5G.
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020why bother with this phone when you have so much better options on the market with SD855+?
an... moreand why should they bother with u when there are so
many potential people out there looking for a phone
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