Anonymous, 03 May 2020"So where as I would disagree with your point being that performance automatically trumps all ... moreI have an iPhone 11 pro which I bought on it's launch day, and just bought my wife an SE!!!!!!, I know full well the capabilities of the A13 and the value proposition of the SE my very simple minded friend.
Honestly, Where did get the dumb idea I was criticising the SE?????
Listen, you seem to have taken my messages as an attack on the SE when even a 5 year old could see they were in fact a defence of that product.
Stop being so fond of your own opinion that you completely miss that of others, and learn to read properly will you!!!!!!!!
AnonD-893029, 28 Apr 2020Yeah, you obviously need to learn how to read objectively as you quite obviously missed my poi... more"So where as I would disagree with your point being that performance automatically trumps all other aspects of a device, as would say instead that it would be a tangible quality of varying importance based on individual desire. I do agree that it is up there with the best of the rest, and better in most cases."
You can disagree all you want. This is the reason why i replied short memories people like you. You just show you are clueless and out of your mind or perhaps plain jealous! Performance is the biggest selling point right now. With the SE all top of the range games will play ultra settings unlike budget phones. It will trump some of the flagship phones as well. This is best news for gamers as they cant afford the flagship iPhones. I also see so many people complaining about android being laggy and slow as hell in general after a year or 2. Its proven with my Note 5 and all previous android phones. This is never the case with a iPhone. Since the 6s it was a monster years for Apple.
AnonD-893029, 28 Apr 2020Yeah, you obviously need to learn how to read objectively as you quite obviously missed my poi... more"Hell they could always choose a budget android instead yeah, that way the only thing they have to put up with never getting updated is the software"
It doesn't sound like you are making a point to me. You are completing missing the point of the SE. People care about performance which SE trumps any budget android heck it challenge the flagship phones. Did you know the A13 are the fastest and best cpu so far? I guess you did not! So for 400 bucks with the best specs its a steal. Plus longer updates aswell. So Performance + Updates = Winner. The LCD, camera, etc are perfectly fine for a budget phone.
In the end you only think the biggest selling points is the OS updates but its not. Its all about performance and snappy fast smooth OS. Hell my Secondary Phone Note 5 is miles slower than iPhone 7 Plus even though the Note 5 screen is obviously better but I will always chose Apple as my primary because of they best eco system and performance.
Anonymous, 25 Apr 2020This iPhone SE destroys the most expensive android in terms of performance. And you think ppl ... moreYeah, you obviously need to learn how to read objectively as you quite obviously missed my point, like completely. So instead of my needing to get myself a life, you might be in more urgent need of getting yourself a clue perhaps?
I wasn't attacking the SE's screen quality, I was actually saying it would be of good enough quality to anyone purchasing one. I count myself among one of those as I have just gifted an SE to my wife who is (as predicted) more than happy with it.
So where as I would disagree with your point being that performance automatically trumps all other aspects of a device, as would say instead that it would be a tangible quality of varying importance based on individual desire. I do agree that it is up there with the best of the rest, and better in most cases.
AnonD-893029, 19 Apr 2020Actually the main sensor on the pixel 4 is said to be the same IMX363 as was used in the 3 ser... moreThis iPhone SE destroys the most expensive android in terms of performance. And you think ppl will complain about LCD lol. You need to get a life. It is all about performance and this SE is head and shoulders above the rest. The budget Androids is not even in the picture. People care about performance mostly. A camera, screen, etc always become a secondary
i know because my parent pre ordered the iphone se2 because i had the original se. Why wont iphone make an iphone 9. dpes the se2 count as the iphone 9
Qwericus, 18 Apr 2020.....and I am proof of this. My 6 year old iPhone 6 still runs good with the most recent iOS ... moreActually, you could probably expect OS updates out to iOS 17 on this, maybe even beyond, though those would inevitably have either, variations to features that rely on hardware unique to the 10 series designs, or be absent them. 4-5 years software support is a high probability though.
Anonymous, 18 Apr 2020sorry but the sensor is different for every generation . Meanwhile we can sure the iphone scre... moreActually the main sensor on the pixel 4 is said to be the same IMX363 as was used in the 3 series. Those being a minor upgrade to the IMX362 found in the pixel 2. So I guess we are both right and wrong.
But whatever hey, improvements have been made in any case. Also, yes the screen in the SE is in all likelihood the same as that in the iPhone 8, I doubt that’s going to matter to the million’s who end up getting one.
Hell they could always choose a budget android instead yeah, that way the only thing they have to put up with never getting updated is the software.
The A13 is 40% more efficient which means the 1800 mah battery will be a lot better than in say the Iphone 8
AnonD-833125, 18 Apr 2020This goes to show you that the majority of people buying smartphones (not me), are not interes... more.....and I am proof of this. My 6 year old iPhone 6 still runs good with the most recent iOS (12.5.6) with no problems. I'm expecting this newfangled SE will get iOS 14--maybe 15--and will get security updates thereafter for the next 4 years. Despite my current iPhone working good I'm still planning to get the SE this coming supper.
Anonymous, 18 Apr 2020Agreed. I'm not even an Apple fan but this will sell really well. $400 is not that much but wi... moreApple captured a nice market share of new customers with the new SE. A lot of people are willing to commit $399 for the latest generation chip and a nice compact phone. No wonder they sold out of initial supple in the first day of preorder release. I’ve been waiting for this sort of pricing for a new generation phone for years as Im sure others have as well. Back when the iphone 4 came out this was the norm. It will do everything you need and then some without you having to spend 1k+ on a phone. Smart move by apple prior to the release of their new 5g device later this year.
Kevin Doorant, 17 Apr 2020T-Mobile is flooded by calls from customers wanting to get the new SE. This is crazy! How di
LilPhone, 18 Apr 2020True. The XR and 11 are great phones. The SE 2020 is just an ancient brick with mediocre batte... moreAlready iPhone 11 & XR cutting its margins by making people NOT to go after its very margin Pro models, with 2020 modern design plus possible cheap price tags, Apple will be competing with Xiomi, Vivian, Honor, ZTE on profit margins!! I am sure Apple does this every 5 years once to stabilise it’s falling user base & adoption. None these SE buyers would spend on Apple ecosystem instead use them only for very few selected actions. Apple never gets anything out of this SE....but trying to trap them with the poor battery as time bomb which will force users when 5G becomes standard would contemplate moving for higher priced models in a year or two where 5 G becomes available everywhere
AnonD-893029, 18 Apr 2020And how often do you think google are refreshing the camera hardware in the pixel line? I beli... moresorry but the sensor is different for every generation . Meanwhile we can sure the iphone screen is the same from 2014
LilPhone, 18 Apr 2020No matter the circumstances a phone like that just doesn't belong to 2020. Maybe a small price... moreWhat ultimately decides whether a phone like this belongs in 2020 or not will be sales figures, not opinion.
i, 18 Apr 2020i never understand pre-orders, who's pre-ordering phones... its just vendors, or promoters.. l... moreIt's being pre-ordered by people who would like the phone ASAP. Not that hard to figure out.
Interesting... Just browsed through a few EU sites and it seems that red and white are in more demand (delivery in 1-2 weeks) in countries like GER, UK, FRA, POL, ITA, AUT, SPA, POR (only red in SWE and IRE) whereas black's deliveries got pushed back to 1-2 weeks in CZE (and HUN also with red)...
Also, black and white are to be delivered in 4-6 days in China. Red in 1-2 weeks (all capacities) :)
Anonymous, 18 Apr 2020Yes you are correct but you missed the point here. This is a comment section about slipping da... moreNo doubt, but you missed my point which was pointing out why some people are complaining which is that they're not from the US and the price differential in other places aren't as good as the US.
AnonD-893029, 18 Apr 2020And how often do you think google are refreshing the camera hardware in the pixel line? I beli... moreNo matter the circumstances a phone like that just doesn't belong to 2020. Maybe a small price hike will be fine if the phone was so much better and not merely recycled but the hardware. Battery is meagre, at least 2000 mAh (take it from Plus models) for iPhone is appreciated. Upper bezel could be slightly thinner to accomodate screen (not saying that it has to be eliminated).