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Samsung working on Exynos 992 for the Note20 lineup Comments

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  • AnonD-754814
  • uNV
  • 30 Apr 2020

SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 30 Apr 2020Gsmarena mentioned in the S20 ultra review on performance section. Also my brother has S20 ul... moreGSMARENA reviewed that unit very early. That time the SoC had issues, which was fixed after the update.
Anyway, I'm not denying that Exynos is worse. It's worse than SD. So, no need to extend the debate.

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    • AnonD-754814
    • uNV
    • 30 Apr 2020

    Nick Tagataka, 30 Apr 2020"Exynos has always been better than Kirin" Not exactly the case for the last two generations ... moreyou just finished the last piece of admiration I had of you by doing this comment. Now it's clear that you are just a Huawei fanboy with lies like others.

    Well, there is not much info about Kirin 990 vs Exynos 990.
    But as you said last 2 generation I assume I can include Kirin 980 vs Exynos 9820 ?

    The CPU is better in Exynos SoC than Kirin by a respectable margin and The GPU is way better. The kirin 980 SoC is actually on par with old Exynos 9810. Also Kirin 980 has the worst throttling in recent history, around 55%.
    Do you want some evidence ?
    Here,

    https://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-855-vs-exynos-9820-vs-kirin-980-929775/

    https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s10-snapdragon-855-vs-exynos-9820-967562/

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      • Spanky
      • 0Ug
      • 30 Apr 2020

      AnonD-754814, 29 Apr 2020I think, that was the point of my comment. Also while differentiating SD765 and Exynos 980, ... moreYes, but the Snapdragon 765G is more energy efficient, being built on 7 nm, versus 8 nm for the Exynos 980. So, it's down to usage scenarios and what matters most to each individual user…

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        • n4w
        • 30 Apr 2020

        AnonD-754814, 29 Apr 2020Cortex A78 in SD 865+ is 100% unlikely. Also the Kirin 1020's main competitor is SD 875, not... moreKirin's main competitor is Chinese phones (with whatever chips they use when Kirin 1020 ships, even Samsung might come out with new Exynos and sell it to the Chinese manufacturers).

        Huawei is dead outside China, and thus, unfortunately, is Kirin SoC.

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          • Nick Tagataka
          • gRx
          • 30 Apr 2020

          AnonD-754814, 30 Apr 2020Both cases, cortex A78 is not gonna happen. And about catching Kirin, Exynos has always bee... more"Exynos has always been better than Kirin"
          Not exactly the case for the last two generations of Kirin and Exynos.

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            • SLSAHXOHVOMVN
            • 7kH
            • 30 Apr 2020

            AnonD-754814, 30 Apr 2020May I get the link of that article ? Gsmarena mentioned in the S20 ultra review on performance section.
            Also my brother has S20 ultra Exynos. So I know his GeekBench Benchmark tests after subsequent tests.

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              • AnonD-754814
              • 6p}
              • 30 Apr 2020

              SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 30 Apr 2020Yeah I watched that, several heating issues and battery drops on Exynos variant. GSMarena did... moreMay I get the link of that article ?

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                • SLSAHXOHVOMVN
                • 7kY
                • 30 Apr 2020

                AnonD-754814, 30 Apr 2020Well,, AnTutu doesn't seem to have that issue. The GPU performance dropped dramatically, not... moreYeah I watched that, several heating issues and battery drops on Exynos variant.
                GSMarena did comparisons where cpu was throttling with each subsequent benchmark.

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                  • AnonD-754814
                  • 6p}
                  • 30 Apr 2020

                  SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 30 Apr 2020My bad, I typed 865 plus instead of Exynos 992. Both cases, cortex A78 is not gonna happen.
                  And about catching Kirin,
                  Exynos has always been better than Kirin.

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                    • AnonD-754814
                    • 6p}
                    • 30 Apr 2020

                    SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 30 Apr 2020Lol is that so? Then why does GeekBench show single core performance drop to that of SD855 aft... moreWell,, AnTutu doesn't seem to have that issue.
                    The GPU performance dropped dramatically, not the CPU.
                    MrWhotheboss(something like it) shows a comparison between SD and exynos. You might wanna watch that.

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                      • SLSAHXOHVOMVN
                      • 7kY
                      • 30 Apr 2020

                      AnonD-754814, 30 Apr 2020Very funny ! The GPU throttles, not the CPU. Know the details and then come say something. ... moreLol is that so? Then why does GeekBench show single core performance drop to that of SD855 after repeated benchmarks on the Exynos 990?

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                        • SLSAHXOHVOMVN
                        • 7kY
                        • 30 Apr 2020

                        [deleted post]My bad, I typed 865 plus instead of Exynos 992.

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                          • AnonD-754814
                          • 6p}
                          • 30 Apr 2020

                          SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 30 Apr 2020Difference in Cpu performance is not noticeable? Lol the EXYNOS CPU throttles in heavy usage, ... moreVery funny !
                          The GPU throttles, not the CPU.
                          Know the details and then come say something.
                          Also don't lie straightly like you did a few minutes ago.

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                            • SLSAHXOHVOMVN
                            • 7kY
                            • 30 Apr 2020

                            AnonD-754814, 29 Apr 2020Cortex A78 in SD 865+ is 100% unlikely. Also the Kirin 1020's main competitor is SD 875, not... moreLearn to read properly pal.
                            I said Exynos 992 to sport cortex A78 (new architecture) not the SD865+

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                              • SLSAHXOHVOMVN
                              • 7kY
                              • 30 Apr 2020

                              AnonD-754814, 29 Apr 2020Well, That is not true. The CPU performance gap is unnoticeable and the GPU performance gap ... moreDifference in Cpu performance is not noticeable? Lol the EXYNOS CPU throttles in heavy usage, thereby reducing that on paper performance to good old SD855.
                              Haven't you seen real world tests?
                              Battety drops easily by 15-25% depending on usage.

                              Tests have already been done explaining how camera performance on Exynos is slightly better than its Snapdragon counterparts for the S20 series.

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                                • AnonD-754814
                                • uNV
                                • 29 Apr 2020

                                ypcx, 29 Apr 2020Of course it wasn't meant literally but figuratively. But it does feel exactly like that when... moreThe exynos 990 was dissappointing. No debate on that.
                                The exynos version has almost 12% battery hit compared to SD version.
                                These really don't matter much.
                                The true disappointment is the NPU(AI performance) that none talks about. The AI performance is very weak compared to SD.

                                The exynos 9820's battery hit was mainly because of bigger 8nm architecture.

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                                  • ypcx
                                  • HB4
                                  • 29 Apr 2020

                                  AnonD-754814, 29 Apr 2020Checking and then buying is a wise decision. That's good. But 3 hours screen on time is ... moreOf course it wasn't meant literally but figuratively.
                                  But it does feel exactly like that when I travel and using camera a lot and maybe some Google Maps navigation or Uber here and there.
                                  The battery endurance of my S10+ Exynos is extremely disappointing.
                                  I guess at least I can be happy it hasn't exploded on me yet.

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                                    • AnonD-754814
                                    • uNV
                                    • 29 Apr 2020

                                    Anonymous, 29 Apr 2020Kirin 1020 on A78? thats a big rumor....lets see...Cortex A78 is a common.
                                    I don't understand why you're doubting on the simplest matter ?
                                    They can't just use same design consecutively 3 years(as the Kirin 980 and 990 had same design).

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                                      • AnonD-754814
                                      • uNV
                                      • 29 Apr 2020

                                      SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 29 Apr 2020"The poor S20 Ultra with Exynos has been proven to have an inferior camera than Snapdragon... ... moreWell, That is not true.
                                      The CPU performance gap is unnoticeable and the GPU performance gap is noticeable only for high demanding games and there are very few of them.

                                      Anyway, for camera the difference between "exynos 990 and SD 865" is a shame for Samsung. Specially for low light photography the exynos version samples is way to darker and noisier than the Qualcomm version. The difference is so big that just seeing the samples one will have hard time believing they are from same model devices. SD version is also way better in periscope lens performance.

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                                        • AnonD-754814
                                        • uNV
                                        • 29 Apr 2020

                                        SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 29 Apr 2020I think they are jumping to cortex A78 instead of the A77 on the SD865 plus. That explains th... moreCortex A78 in SD 865+ is 100% unlikely.
                                        Also the Kirin 1020's main competitor is SD 875, not SD865+

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