Anonymous, 05 May 2020just to add something regarding Qualcomm monopoly.
why everyone thinks that its a Qualcomm fa... moreYou have one major flaw with your point
If it isnt greed can you explain why qualcomm was forced to lower the cost of its 765 by a massive 30%
Because of feeling the pressure from mediatek
Basic economics/ business that's a massive profit margin cut...why was the margin so high in the first place????????
its funny when poco f1 first launched, i m curious of the naming f1, coz remind me of formula one...means "speed" , and its corresponding with the gigz actually
now they upgrading it by naming poco F2... now i dont care of it coz the spec way too far from speed...
Walter C. Dornez, 05 May 2020This. Qualcomm is charging way too much this year for the 865 because of that damn external mo... moreEssentially, Qualcomm is beginning to behave as Intel once did.
The proverb 'pride goeth before a fall' rings true of Intel, and it shall of Qualcomm in due course, should the escalation of its SoC prices continue unabated.
Competition ensures arrogance is kept at bay, but alas there is no credible entity to keep Qualcomm in tow.
Bahahaha! Your precious Xiaomi screwed you Plasticophone F1 fans so hard lol!
just to add something regarding Qualcomm monopoly.
why everyone thinks that its a Qualcomm fault?
how much cost one SD865 SoC? anyone knows?
Qualcomm provides heart and brain of one mobile phone + full SW support.
Its OEMs who are greedy, dont blame the wrong person!
why they are greedy? they are paying too much their "designers" and managers and so far, none of them, NONE of the OEMs made one nice and decent phone with full specs to admire! every time something is missing in configuration.
If the phone have good SoC, then its weak battery or opposite, or they put notch or punch hole or any other fail design move.
Qualcomm provides best specs on the market and nothing would be possible without it, so YES, they should be expensive!
IpsDisplay, 04 May 2020Ever heard of the anti trust with qualcomm
Keep your admiration in check
Every since... moreTo be clear, your solution is a company that is on trial for stealing AMD technology, caught multiple time violating various licenses, recently found cheating and was brazing about it, who in fact their only motto is "we are in China, good luck enforcing the law".
The only reason Qualcomm became a monopoly was because of garbage such as Merdiatek being promoted as a viable competitor. No one can out price companies that save on the costs of following the rule of law (ie., play the China bully card). This is similar to how buying phones that don't get updates ruin it for everyone else -- if you want garbage then the market only makes garbage. There are no ideal solutions, but that one is like f*cking for virginity -- you are replacing a monopoly based on merit for another based on cheating.
this is pocoarrogance!
people are not so stupid!
sell will go dramatically down and thats it.... well done XIOAMI, you destroyed your own brand!
Anonymous, 04 May 2020The problem is with exynos. Benchmark isn't everything. Exynos 990 had way better benchmarks t... moreThis is really baffling considering what exyno offers hardware wise. G90t has only 4 g76 core while 990 has 11 g77 core. Being behind g90t means Samsung did something very very wrong.
people cry about rebranding etc. people also cried about global redmi k30 pro so this is maybe the global version poco f2 :) and its normal to be more expensive all global phones are
600 euro for this phone was too much. Xiaomi,u could use Mi9T...change only Its chipset to Dimensity 1000 n rebrand it as vanilla F2. LOL
This. Qualcomm is charging way too much this year for the 865 because of that damn external modem. With no competition currently, they've essentially begun capitalizing on the monopolistic position they're in now.
The POcO guy~, 05 May 2020Thinking of changing my nickname after the death of the Poco F1 ...
If I get a chance to upgr... moreThere is IMAGINATION, like NVIDIA they make only GPU. They even already have Ray Tracing Support.
IMAGINATION also close to Mediatek but unfortunatelly despite Mediatek branding, Mediatek choose Mali Instead.
Mediatek was have effort on X30 but the only one phone with X30 is Meizu Pro 7.
Both have driver on LINUX. I believe Linux,Mediatek and Imagination can against Microsoft,Intel and Nvidia in future.
The POcO guy~, 05 May 2020Thinking of changing my nickname after the death of the Poco F1 ... If I get a chance to upgr... moreQualcomm has bought adreno from amd long time ago with all their patents. So amd have a long time to catch up with Qualcomm
Thinking of changing my nickname after the death of the Poco F1 ...
If I get a chance to upgrade I'm looking at what AMD and Samsung are making; it sounds interesting that a company which develops both desktop CPU's and GPU's fighting against Nvidia, who are also capable of making a single chip API that can rival older desktop dedicated GPU's and is gaining traction for performance vs price is making a mobile SoC ...
Granted Samsung is mixed into the development but if samsung gets AMD to make custom exynos-AMD chips the destroy qualcomm in all categories of performance (like having a mini desktop PC); I'm down to give them my money!
[Just have to be wary of heating and bad driver support]
Anonymous, 04 May 2020Why show a teaser when everyone knows its literally k30 pro. This doesnt make senseYeah, one would wonder why we need another K30 pro under new branding...
IpsDisplay, 04 May 2020I have heard many cheating benchmarks from phones with qualcomm chipsets But what I find in... moreBecause for snapdragon the oems were cheating. But in this case it's mediateck that is cheating.
Anonymous, 04 May 2020Did you heard of mediateck cheating on benchmarks?I have heard many cheating benchmarks from phones with qualcomm chipsets
But what I find interesting is the OEM like OnePlus gets the blame and not qualcomm themselves